S1CK TypeS

Well it seemed like all was goin well till we got to the cat/downpipe bolts. holy shit those fuckers were soo rusted WD40 and torque wrench didnt do the job, then we tried heating it with a propane torch, they didnt budge. we finally cut the bolts got the downpipe off. then we had to drill new holes. The drill bit decided it didnt want to go thru. at tht point we just put the xs manifolds on the car torqued them down and called it a night. we started at 3pm finished at 11pm and barely finished half way cause of those three fuckin bolts. im soo pissed

this is wht i think of those 3 bolts

the gains better be worth it on top of everything its fuckin snowin and i wont even really get to test them out once the install is done

badazzTL

This is why I have yet to buy headers for my car. Several people seem to be having a hard time getting those stupid bolts off. I hope all turns out well for you.

badazzTL

Oh, and not to mention your car is 3 years newer than mine. I can only imagine how bad mine are rusted...

fsttyms1

It may have helped to drop the entire exhaust system and worked on it off the car instead of under it. Yes those bolts can be a pain. It helps to use a GOOD penetrating oil and not wd40. It will be worth it!

vsop TL-S

that was why I'm glad I had air tools when I installed my headers. If you can, try to get your hands on some air tools and those things will come off. good luck man.

dutty-07

same thing happened to me, i had to drop down the whole exhaust from the other side of the cat. i was usin wd-40 too i tihnk that may be the problem. i wanted to get sumthyn else but my boy said wd-40 is the same shyt and like a dumbass i listened. i had to take mine to a shop to cut the bolt and drill out a new one. i couldnt find the bits to do it myself. they raped me for $60 but i had no choice it was getting late and no1 else was open. while the cat was out i decided to gut and now im gettin a cool yellow light on my cluster!!!

AcuraKidd

iTrader: (1)

we do have air tools and still wouldnt come off....well its all finished now after like 8hrs its defi faster. it does have a raspy noise tho when im on the gas

S1CK TypeS

ok so i just took it for a test drive and i defi feel the power. theres one problem...something seems to be making alot of noise besides the gases going thru the headers. i think it might be the heat shield on the cat, because when we were taking it off one of the bolts broke off so we left it with 3 instead of 4. but right now my car sounds like absolute shit at low RPMs. you guys have any ideas on what it could be, it sounds like something is rattling around inside

CL Platano

Yeah everything was good till I got to those bolts too it took forever and we cut them off also..

S1CK TypeS

is there any problems with takin the heat shield on the cat off?

RidinDurty

Im sure there is... if not then it wouldn't be there in the first place

Man im installing mine tomorrow and i really hope i dont have to cut any of them. I also dont have air tools but i'll get er done!!

S1CK TypeS

well the stock manifolds has heat shields but we dont use those on the xs headers

bro if u dont have air tools ur in for a hard time. it made our jobs easier, if we didnt have them it would have take us atleast another 2 hrs.

any one have any suggestions for the unhealthy noise thts comin from my car?

CL Platano

Nah I took mine off when I did my headers and not a problem.

S1CK TypeS

so u currently have no heat shield on the cat. does that affect the gains?

CL Platano

No..

S1CK TypeS

well we took a look at it today and it indeed was the heat shield to the cat. so we took it off and im runnin it with out a heat shield hopefully theres no negative effects from this

lostkhan

I still have my headers sitting in my house. I wont do any headers, instead ill let the prof take care if it man. Its not that i cant do it, But i never did it before and no Experiments on my Baby!

RidinDurty

Ok guys, i just got home from a pretty successful day working on my buddys car and my TL. We installed the header on my boys 04 Civic, then we installed my XSP headers on my car AND i did the whole in dash LED conversion along with installing the white TL-S gauge cluster

Some of you guys said it took you like 8 hours to install the headers... well it took me and my boy 2 1/2 hours.... without air tools.... and not one bolt was broken in the process There are no leaks so i am pretty happy with the outcome. I also used the OEM gasket and the ones provided by XSP. i do feel a bit of a difference but maybe i'll notice it more over time. I'll be installing my Tsudo mufflers this week before our Tampa mini-meet. One thing i am not happy with is the LEDs in dash. The LEDs turned out a light bluish color although they are ultra whites. Yes, i did take out the blue filters and they are still blusih. and Yes i did order and receive ultra white LEDs.

Ok let me stop, i'm sorry for the lol

S1CK TypeS

dude im glad for u how many miles do u have on the car? u had wayy better luck with those bolts than i did. but i bet i have more miles on mine than u do and mostlikely my shit was more rusted than urs

RidinDurty

Actually i have a 01 TL with 93k miles! lol I doubt you have more than that. and trust me, those bolts/nuts were rusted pretty fukin bad. Took a lot of man power to get them things off. It wasnt easy but we got it done.

S1CK TypeS

eh im up to 80k lol yea those bolts suck

ryebreadisme

iTrader: (1)

I blasted all the bolts with PB blaster and then used a wire brush to clean the threads. They came off easy as pie, with a breaker bar .

S1CK TypeS

lol we were at home depot and picked up the pb blaster and then we were like fuck it lets just cut it off lol. besides he had a grinder so cuttin it was kinda fun with sparks flyin every where

Cozmo

I'm just glad that my car had a new transmission put in a while back so I think many of those bolts must have been removed when that was done. It wasn't too difficult for me. The ones I didn't like are on the rear header. My friend was standing on my engine trying to torque them down.

Billy Sacco

Yes last time I tried my headers these mofos would not budge. Used an impact gun and did nothing. I have a 4 foot breaker bar for next time and am hoping thats enough I would like to avoid cutting the studs off.

fsttyms1

Start spraying them a week before the install with a good penetrating oil like PB Blaster or something similar. It will make life easier

Delirium

I dunno for you guys in the USA if this stuff is available like here in Canada but if it is go get yourself a bottle asap,i'm a mech for a railroad company and we use this stuff all day,trust me,rusty bolts is my daily bread.You won't believe what this stuf can do, we tried EVERY wannabe rust breaker products this one is


Check for penetrants and lubricants section its called MAX E.P
http://www.sinto.ca/WWW-E/F-prodacc.html

t7n7

thanks! ...

Billy Sacco

I had a new tranny put in just a few months ago. I think they just torqued everything down to max with thier air guns. Thanks for the suggestion on that stuff I will check it out for sure! As fstty suggested I kept spraying the bolts down with kroil and it has removed most of the rust around there so hopefully next time I take a crack at it the suckers will actually come out .

S1CK TypeS

my oem down pipe had a crack in it, i think i was losing some serious power lol shit was all rusted and where the weaving is was all loose

BAPE head

This stuff looks good, Delirium, where can you buy this stuff? I am located in Toronto, Canada.

Thanks

Kevin

etxxz

i remember my header install...it was my first job ever on a car and it also took like 6hours lol...but i replaced every bolt with new ones and high temp rostoleum those bitches to prevent future breakouts. i hate rust

MrHeeltoe

iTrader: (1)

I got one of these jobs coming up on Sunday....I wonder how long it will take me.....

RidinDurty

If you use some of those products they posted, i dont think it will take you that long at all. Took my 2 1/2 hours without any of those products and without air tools...

fsttyms1

They shouldnt have touched the exhaust/header for the tranny swap

Billy Sacco

They must be just rusted to hell. I thought I would not have a problem with that with the weather here in vegas. I guess its just the location.

MrHeeltoe

iTrader: (1)

Took a long time....like 4 hours. The header install itself was fast, but DC supplied the wrong gaskets so we needed to hit up the parts store for some emergency replacements, and I was trying to resolve some funcky sounds for an hour that turned out to be 'normal.'


Really, I could have it done in 2.5 hrs now.

Marcus