so uh, i know there aren't a lot of you guys that are boosted, but for those that are, anyone running e85? i understand that i'd need bigger injectors and possibly a better fuel pump, but this would be an upgrade for next summer. i'm sure running on AEM EMS wouldn't be hard to e85 tune either.

 

ur goin all out huh?? super jealous an hope you pull it off. Sorry I have no beneficial advice...

 

why would you want to do something stupid like that? the price of the fuel might be cheaper but you'll use more of it. Yes you'll have to remap the ECU or get an aftermarket unit but why waiste the money and have the headacke of programing it with no added performance?

 

.... dude look up the octane ratings of e85 and the equivalent of gas. thats why. not to mention the added performance. if you put 93 octane u get 265hp if u got a type-s. if u use q16 or sumthin else pretty dank you get alot more than 265 on a decent tune.

 

assclown turbo the *uck out that car an run e85. im tryna see what these engines are capable of. sick of readin bout lil four banger's with 500hp capabilities.

 

stupid? yes i understand i'd use more. it'd probably even cost more than filling with premium, however i don't see your basis of "no added performance" plus, i'm not running stock ecu, so it shouldn't be hard to tune the fuel change.

 

yeah, like my tuner



5xx something HP and 11.xx sec in 1/4mile

 

I dunno if it'd be worth it. Doesn't ethanol have less energy per gallon or sometghing? Basically less power from ethanol than from gasoline, so you'd get worse fuel economy and power.

Me? I'ma get as much of my pure gasoline as I can, because pure gas will be pretty much nonexistent about ten years from now.

 

i have read about alot of people doing this mostly on evo's. idk how it actually works (cause idk much about boosting)

if it adds power do it!! haha

 

$2.59?

i filled up for $3.32 today

 

Do some research before you post ever again

 

it's pretty much like running race fuel for a ton cheaper

 

I've never used it before. Have you looked into running anything like alc/meth injection??? I was running alcohol injection with just premium fuel, 12 psi, stock timing(think I might have added a little, been a while), stock internals without a problem for two drag seasons

 

i say run e85 alot of people are running it in the evo, sti, vw, and honda scene. your gonna need to change your fuel pump. i dont think a wahbro 255 alone would be enough gas. also you are gonna need way bigger injectors. my friends setup is walbro 255 and another inline fuel pump with 1200cc injectors + he re did the lines because the corn eats them up he said. went to his dyno he made 554whp (said car was not a tl it is a 4cyl)

 

^ damn that sick, i say do it!!

 

cool. yeah i heard the corn eats up a lot of the older fuel system lines but newer cars not so much. i figured i'd need a better fuel pump. i'm on s2000 injectors right now, but i guess it wouldn't hurt to up the CC's on that haha.

 

The car and its lines werent designed to run it. Some of the internal seals on the motor may not be able to handle it . Also unless you plan on getting crazy with the boost i dont really see a need to go thru the hassle for it. If you plan on going that crazy with boost your internals will need to be strengthened.

 

ok, so this will really only benefit the high boost applications?

 

MAYBE YOUR USING THE WRONG FUEL THEN, as ethanol e85 is nothing like methanol racing fuel. then throw in the fact that per volume e85 doesn't have the punch of regular old gasoline, thus the larger injectors and fuel pumps, waiste o money and time but the kids have all this all ready figured out NOT.

 

^senior lead designer for some big companies. I would at least listen to his advice. Then, see if it applies to your life

 

Pretty much. E85 has less energy to it, to help overcome that you have to increase the boost to make more power. What it does have is a higher octane rating which is where the high boost engines are benefiting from it and its ability to resist knock. But like said above boost has to be turned up to overcome its lower energy (all from my understanding and those that have run it that i know)

 

*no offense assclown but anytime you open car magazines they're full of turbo'd fourbangers. how many of us tl's have you seen turbo'd? not too many.. its more of an exclusive club!

 

^^ Why don't you turbo your own car?

 

I dont think it will ONLY benefit high boost (depending on what is considered high boost), but it is probably more practical if you really ARE pushing high numbers and boost, as it really helps prevent detonation. If you have a good tune, 93 should sufficient. Especially a lot easier pushing more power out from 6 cylinders than 4.

When i still had my 240sx, i mixed 100 octane with CA 91 gas when i was pushing anywhere from 15-19(highest i boosted, on a gt2871r) to be on the safe side. Not necessarily needed if you have a good tune. Thats what really matters.

 

Its not all about size or power alone. My sr20 powered 240sx would with aprox 315 hp @ 285 tq would definitely have taken my brothers 2jzgte sc300 that he has now. He is predicting 300+ at 15psi on stock usdm turbos. When i still had the car, i had beaten plenty of v6 and v8s.

vid of my old 240: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xTpFelNwvk
video of his sc300: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvPbByDcFM8

 

how many cc are the s2000 injectors ? and i say your gonna need at least 550cc

yes like fsttyms1 says if your going to crazy with the boost you better get lower compression pistons and stronger rods.

what were you using to tune the 240 ? i have a friend thats using the same turbo in a b13 se-r and i must say for that little turbo the car is quick as hell it just falls off top end

 

Turbo does fall off at the top end but it was one of the bigger T2's. It spools up really fast and hits really hard. I had a short(er) ratio tranny so anything bigger would not really have been useful.

Tuned with power fc.

 

not sure the size of the s2k injectors, i'd probably say 300cc at least. dunno.

yeah, i figured with compression at 10.5:1 would be too high for me to push past what i'm at right now anyway.

i'll stick with 93 then

 

i have another friend who has a gt30 which is a little bigger than the gt28 and i find the turbo doesnt make boost as hard around 7 or 8k. my friends b13 se-r was tuned using a jim wolf computer. what motor was in the 240 ?

 

Stock s2k injectors are like 420 and will be plenty for the boost he would be pushing with stock internals. You could also run the RDX injectors which flow more

 

you can feel/see the turbo not being able to boost as much on the high end on the smaller turbos. ran a s13 sr20

 

Lol, u mad!! Haha

 

rcb2000 is actually more correct than you are. E85 is nothing like race gas. Its almost like regular 87 octane just that e85 burns cooler (i believe), hence a tune is needed unless you run a very small amount mixed with gasoline.

If you plan on running high boost all the time, then yes, going e85 with a new map would be nice, but i would just sticking with 100 octane or higher whenever you feel like the need for it. Back when i had my 240, 100 octane was like $7.89 per gallon (only available in one gas station aprox 20 mins) and i would only fill up when i plan on really boosting and pushing the car. A good tune and dyno can really reduce knock on just 91 or 93 octane.

 

 

Me mad why? because some punk ass kidd doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, guess you don't have a NHRA SEASON CHAMPION wally to look at on the shelf of your garage either? like some of use do now do you Dumb Ass?

 

 

its about to be a........... GIRL FIGHT!!!!

 

the E-Penis is strong with this thread.

 

E85, is a motor fuel blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline to be used in flex-fuel vehicles. Ethanol is alcohol used in transportation fuels. It is a high-octane, liquid fuel, produced by the fermentation of plant sugars. In the United States, ethanol is typically produced from corn and other grain products, although in the future it may be economically produced from other biomass resources.

Benefits:
It has a motor octane rating of 104-108, it is also quite cold to the touch. It drops air intake temps dramatically, which is GREAT with boost. It is currently about 2.05 per gallon, while 93 Octane is approximately 3.10 a gallon. E85 is cleaner burning, emitting a lot less greenhouse gasses. It is also a renewable resource. To top it off it is made 100% within the confines of the USA.

Cons:
It takes more of this fuel to create the same energy as regular gasoline. Therefore your car will use more fuel and you will see a decrease of approximately 10-15% in fuel economy. To make big horsepower you will need more fuel pump, bigger lines and more injector, or a modified carb and larger jets. Many people state that the fuel is corrosive and it could have adverse effects on aluminum fuel rails, injector o-rings and fuel lines.