RIPPO

been thinking about the possibilities of my 03 TLs. I hate the fact that honda is FF, they should have changed this up a long time ago. I've had a fully built turbo hatch so im very familiar with honda's but let's get on with this idea. If the TL was an FR platform I would swap a 2JZGTE(supra twin turbo) in a heart beat! the body of our TLs are very clean and having a twin turbo setup would be as good as it gets. what's your thoughts on this

BlkAc06

you're sick!! What a great idea and sleeper, would love to see this happen....maybe an LS-1, which what the nissan guys are doing to their 240's and Z's

DaveS221

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already had the brilliant idea...

but got shut the f dwn lolol owell

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/2jz-gte-swap-possible-completly-retarded-idea-760175/

RIPPO

i think you had a lot of haters and people that don't see or even realize the potential of a 2jz. basic bolt ons and a good tune is an easy 450-500 whp. or what if the swap was done and made for a FF set up with a 2 jz. this is something that im seriously going to do some research on and look around. if you build a j series theres not many options and resources out there. but the 2jz is proven and the options are endless

RIPPO

after doing research, this swap has already been done. you won't believe how it fit! check out the link below

http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=48401

assclown

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So crazy, I'm pretty sure it's not gonna happen.

I love the TL and all, but I don't see us getting RWD. After seeing the other guy's thread in the 3G section doing an AWD swap, that would be lovely.

03tLsNBP

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Acurazine doesnt allow links to other forums so your link doesnt work. Can you tell where you found this swap?


And making the TL a FR setup will require an entire re-engineering of the whole car, inside and out. While it may be possible, be ready to spend upwards of $10-15K to get it done right.

Aman

Try more like $25k. You have to redo pretty much everything to get the car to be RWD.

Think about it, you'd probably have to go with a longitudinally mounted engine, which would mean redesigning the entire engine bay, and modifying the front subframe. Not cheap. Then you've got to make more space for the transmission tunnel, which means redoing at least the front half of the interior, then you gotta make space for both the driveshaft and exhaust, then you have to design a rear differential from scratch, find a place to put that sucker, along with the axles.

In short, it's pretty much impossible.

assclown

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yep. you'll have to reroute the exhaust to fit the driveshaft in there.

justnspace

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pretty much, you're better off buying a different car with that 25k.

TequiLa

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2jz is longitudinal, why would you make it ff?

RIPPO

Ok well regaurdless of spending the 25k to do it, it's been done before here is the link.

http://www. /forums/showthread.php?t=48401

Try to look that up, you wouldn't believe it

bl3ujay07

probably the worst idea, ever! What is the point after its all done? You can get a damn supra for the money to get it to work! You must be a noob at cars huh?

With the money, time, and fabricating, i can probably do a twin turbo setup on the tl AND buy a tt supra! If and when you get a chance, look under the car of both FWD and (FR) RWD cars! Even just getting the driveshaft to work will require a lot of fabricating! If i was dumb enough to try and swap a 2jz into a tl, let alone a fwd car, I would get a NSX instead. IMHO, NSX>supra any and all day!








Lastly, even if a noob, anything can be done with money. Fork over the money and ANYTHING can be done! While you are at it tho, i if you are going 2jz, might as well go all out and put a damn jet engine in it!

03tLsNBP

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lol link still doesnt work.

it blocks the name of the forum. you gotta do something else with it. like put spaces, slashes, etc i dunno.

RIPPO

I tried putting spaces but on another note, bl3ujay your just an ignorant dumbass! No it would not cost 25k it would realistically be like 15. No I'm not a newb I actually own an ISF with mods that I've put on all by myself. So you should think twice before you talk down on your people here!

assclown

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I'd pretty simple man. Open the hood of your ISF, open the hood of your TL. Then visualize how the hell you are going to fit a 2JZ in there.

Even if it doesn't cost 25k and it cost ONLY 15k, That's still putting more money than the car is worth. I'm pretty sure the next owner wouldn't want to pay 20k when you sell the car. Food for thought.

cherplex

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Post this idea on Supraforums to get some feedback.

Aman

I dunno if Supra owners would know much about the TL

03tLsNBP

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pics of ISF?


i love that car. whenever im feeling under the weather, i go on youtube and look at that blue ISF Twin Turbo with the turbos back by the rear muffler. it always puts a smile on my face

bl3ujay07

Like i said, with money, anything is possible! Whats so hard about putting bolt ons to a car? I can care less about your ISF! Back then, i purposely built my 240sx just so i can spank people with money buying s2k, evo, sti, corvettes, etc etc thinking they have a fast car! Hence, now my brothers project, tt sc300.

It'll cost 15k IF you do all the fabricating yourself! We had a sr20 into a ae86 and had a shop fabricate, harness, drive shaft, and small stuff to make it work and it came up to 10k. Like i said, look under both cars before talking. You will most likely have to cut a weld a bunch of stuff on the bottom to get tranny AND THEN the driveshaft to work! Then the exhaust! Its not just a plug and play kind of thing!

Why dont you sell your isf and swap your tl and shut me up! I would love to see it happen

RIPPO

A 240, and a cheap ae86 is the best you can build! I don't care how much money you put into those beginner driver cars!! I'm laughing at you right now if thats what you have In your garage!! Haha

brian6speed

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It is a dead give away when someone has a name in all caps that they will be a retarded tool. If a 240 and ae86 are cheap beginner cars, then please tell me what ur tl is that isnt even worth 4 grand. I am laughing at you hahaha-grow up.

assclown

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why are they beginner cars? One could easily stuff an LSx in their 240's and probably drive circles around the IS-F

RIPPO

My TL is a daily car to get to and from work, the ISF is a weekend car.

JCharged

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AE86, 240 beginner cars? Really?

I see these cars all day at the track. Very popular and they beat out a very good amount of high-end cars with great drivers.

This would make a TL just like a Supra. A straight line heavy pig. Road racing>Drag racing but whatever your niche.

justnspace

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pics of isf please!
sexy beast! i got a chance to ride in one the other day.

RIPPO

The whole purpose of this swap was a daily driven car for fun. No track or drag use.

RIPPO

I don't have an uploaded program to upload ISF pics. I'm on my iPhone, sorry

ethenol

I think the idea is great. With all the platforms and swaps I have had the chance to see. This would be very cool to see happen. I have been to sema and alot of other very extravagant shows. Think outside the box. I would stand in line to see a swap like that and also a GM L swap in a TL. This would be pushing the envelope........ GL

bl3ujay07

Cheap, yes. But the look on rich peoples faces when they cant seem to catch up, PRICELESS!!! The whole purpose of the build duh!!!

What is the point to daily drive a 2jz swapped tl?

/thread

Aman

There are a LOT of better and cheaper ways to go about doing that than redesigning essentially your entire car around a different engine.

Have you considered bolting a supercharger, or swapping another J engine in?

DaChef320

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pixs of ISF or your full of shit

DaChef320

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back to topic OP y the hell would u spend all that money trying to swap a 2JZ onto an
TL-P?? if you wanna catch up with your buddies in their Z or EVO trying buying a faster car then spending retarded amount of money trying to try the impossible

TequiLa

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If I had 15k to spend on a car, my TL would not be it, probably an ap2 though

RIPPO

I've considered s/c but I'm over the fact of an ff on boost, I had an EK hatch with a full his turbo set up for track and auto x but it seems like you can be very limited when it comes to having a decent amount if power on the front wheels cause it's going to be hard to hook and get traction.

And as far as my ISF if I was able to post pics on my iPhone I would do it, why would I BS about a car I have? It's an awesome car but my biggest complaint is theirs only bolt on mods available no ecu tuning so your very limited on it, but it does run 12's stock which is very nice

fsttyms1

If i see you post one more time like this you will have a vacation from the site. It is NOT called for!


And as to the question to a swap like this, it will cost you A LOT. There will be so many modifications needed to get it to fit, properly its just not worth it (unless you had all the donor cars just laying around and are a fabricator with plenty of time).Every thing has to be changed, from the front suspension which no longer would have axles running thru it and holding the knuckle together to the power steering which will have to be completely redesigned because the trans wont fit past the rack the way it sits in the car, to the whole tunnel for the trans which will require the pedals to be moved, to the gas tank, and rear seat which sit in the way of the driveshaft all the rear suspension to accommodate some form of rear end and most likely most of the uni-body which isnt designed for RWD. Not to mention ALL of the electrical work involved and all the other things i dont feel like typing. The money spent would be better spent on a car that is already RWD. Can it be done, Sure. I have seen crazier builds, is it worth it. No.

Karanx7

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Oh really... Do share.

sabertooth

dang those isf pics are sick!!! lol

princelybug

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Fixed.

shiem89

It's possible. You'd be surprised. Currently working on a '00 TL-P shell.

RWD conversion consisting of the following:

1UZ motor (yes, the v8); 5-speed drive train, complete 240 rear end w/suspension, axles, wheels, spindles, etc. There's enough room to do everything. After I'm finished gathering all of the parts, I'll make a new thread soon. Be on the look out for it.

For a JZ swap, the motor's not much bigger than the 1uz, and the 1uz fits easily with little modifications. The firewall would have to be modified as well as removal of the blower unit and relocating a bunch of other things, but over all?... The interior's not affected much. As for the rear, the tank would have to be relocated and the suspension drawn up and mapped. Once again, I'll start going through it as time goes on.

P.S. For those that say "who's this guy with his only posts?!" Here's my answer. I usually lurk, just to see what goes on but only post only when needed.

That is all.