IntenseMX

Hi, I am a noob to customization.

I been trying to figure this out for a while now.

I have a 2003 TL non-type S. Thinking about putting catback exhaust on it. However all I could find were the type s exhausts for that year and model.

I mean the shop should be able to custom install I suppose... but will i miss out on performance if it has to be custom installed? I mean are the type-s and non-types exhausts that much different??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=360132643829

Here's one I been thinking about..


Would appreciate any help thanks!

jjashaa

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ATLP..

http://www.acuratlparts.com/products/16/

https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/atlp-ua5-dual-sport-exhaust-692909/

or the Tanabe SHM Part# T4078Z

jjashaa

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and yes that Apexi will fit too

IntenseMX

Thank you !

CL-Slick

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My friend had an Apexi cat back on his 2000 TL. it sounded nice!

jayunsplanet

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If you have $1000 to spend, lol, the ATLP makes a dead sexy sound and produces some gains...

An exhaust shop can make you a great sounding and flowing cat back for around $600. Not sure if they'd be able to develop something w/ performance gains though...

Alternatively, the Comptech mufflers for the TL-P actually do produce a gain, expensive though for just mufflers. Can't find the dynos anymore -- but Comptech had them on their site a long time ago. Pair them w/ headers and and HFC and you'd have a nice setup.

IntenseMX

I saw the videos for ATLP, it sounds really good.. i was thinking Apexi(since it's cheaper), because I am currently in process of putting in car PC.

but after those videos i really feel like going those extra 400$

this might sound stupid but wat is HFC? Also which headers would be a good choice?

IntenseMX

Also found this otherday,

http://www.speed-element.com/servlet/Detail?no=193

But it kind of looks like a waste of money,

jjashaa

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High Flow Cat.. and as for headers..

comptech or DC Sports..

also look into Megan ones...

it is... only for sound and look.. no gains... or as of now, none proven..

IntenseMX

Awesome thanks!

Do headers play big role in power increase lets say for ATLP or Apexi?

I guess what I'm trying to find out is, do i have to get bunch of other parts along with exhaust?

jjashaa

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best gains...

headers with ATLP exhaust...
you'll gain soooo much..

headers give atleast 20whp.. atlp gave me 10 more whp.. (through the power band)

add that up to 30 whp.... pretty good for only two parts..

IntenseMX

Great! Thanks for all the awesome info!!

ugh didn't expect comptech to be that expensive... Right now thinking aether DC Sports or Megan.. What is the usual wait for aptl exhaust? Also do you know if there where there any improvements to it since 06, since it was just prototype back then?

Thanks!

jjashaa

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umm.. i think there will be only one batch of 15 made... its either now or never.. minor improvements from mine like little things here and there..

IntenseMX

you guys be happy to know I'm going with the ATLP. already sent in a 600$ deposit! I really hope I won't be dissapointed

jjashaa

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^ holy fudge.. $600 deposit..



you will be happy.

rbsurfer

i am building a custom cat back what would be the best way to produec gains? 2.25 piping? less bends?

jjashaa

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2.5 to split off to 2.25 at Y

are do what fsttyms1 did.. true dual

rbsurfer

ya im building a test pipe also so do 2.5 and 2.25 at the y and what kind of gains should i expect?? with just canisters temp tho im savin for mufflers

jjashaa

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i wouldn't do test pipe.. its gonna sound soo raspy... just get a high flow.. still would need some back pressure..

test pipe and gonna loose torque i believe..

and should gain similar to ATLP.. depending on what mufflers and how the pipes are.. do mandrel bend instead of crush

rbsurfer

thats why i was thinkin of going to 2.25 from headers back to keep some back pressure

jjashaa

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i guessssss

rbsurfer

ok well its been snowin like crazy down here so as soon as it melts ill try to get this done. and where can you get piping? special order form like autozone?

jjashaa

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fsttyms1 knows.. he ordered some for his true dual project

rbsurfer

just found out where he got them and i am planning tho order the pipes within the next 2-3 days

IntenseMX

Hey um, i was told last shipment should have been ready last weeks.. Didn't get any response from them.

Does anyone know whats the hold up by any chance?

jjashaa

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^ they're being hand made... not by some robots on an assembly line...

just wait

IntenseMX

Oh I reilize they hand made, it's just I spoke with Mike 2 weeks ago and he said they should be shipping last week. There is no real rush for me or anything like that, I just like to know ETA's, after all it is alota cash.

Looks like I'll be pairing it with the comptech headers as well. Do I still need high flow cat? Or the comptech downpipe act as one?

jjashaa

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^ get one.. you'll make pretty good power with those three..

comptech headers to randomtech high flow cat with ATLP... wowowow

IntenseMX

oh nice, they actually got retailer not too far from me. Too bad i just blown 350 on new mounts :/

Catalytic Converter goes in between the downpipe and the exhaust? So if i don't replace it, will just have to use the old one correct?

jjashaa

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^ yes, it goes there and you'll just use the old one....

IntenseMX

Ooo, i see how a higher flow cat would add some HP. neat =]

btw, i did Bxscig's Fog mod yesterday. One you pointed me to jjashaa. was abit of a hassle but i'm happy with the results

also changed cabin air filter, which looks like it has never been changed before!

Gotta love acurazine's DIYs






stock bulbs, came out mad bright on pic!

daNNiebOixDD

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lol hmm seems like the original question was never answered... ATLP sidetracked everyone!!!

so the comptech CATBACK will not fit a NON-S TL without customized work (like what?), however the comptech AXLEBACK will fit...?

jjashaa

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comptech axleback will fit..

comptech b-pipe upgrade won't... it is specifically made for the TL-S.
The flange on it is made for the TL-S cat. Its a bit wider than the TL-P. If you want it to make it fit, find a TL-S cat.

IntenseMX

Did u hear them? Check YouTube , atlp worth it just for the sound LOL , can't wait to get my installed. Car been rather a mess lately buncha cluster guide lights on, freaks me out..

Btw What's best tool to get trouble codes? OBD2 scanner? Or I need something more advance?

daNNiebOixDD

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i wish i had money for the atlp... sigh...

thanks for the help jaasha. so the only way to make a comptech catback happen on a tl-p is to change the cat to a type s cat. what a bummer!! and im assuming that will fit on the tl-p header because those are the same. aww that sucks... changing a flange or anything else might work?

atlp is so tempting... hope they make more batches!!

IntenseMX

i ordered my few weeks back still waitting for it, any day now

They did tell me it's most likely the last batch. and to tell u the truth i fully understand them.. already two new models out..

jjashaa

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^ no its not cuz there are two new models out....

jwskier187

Last I heard it was bc a bunch of people said they were going to buy them and then bailed after they came out. I could be wrong though but I'm pretty sure thats why they are being discontinued

IntenseMX

Last batch for 2G TLs I ment , no doubt they gonna keep the 3G ATLP coming.. There's just less and less people looking to spend that much on a 2G tl.. And they're kinda right..

IntenseMX

woot just got the ATLP today sweet , they didn't even tell me they sent it out, and puff get email today that it's been delivered and is at my house, sweet. Quick question.

http://www.ultrarev.com/product.php?productid=40881

Is this the cat i want? or is there something better?