3000K HID Foglight install..PICS!! 56K..think again!
10-03-2007, 10:04 AM
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ok so you got just the ballast and the bulbs is that right (of course with wiring)? Because if you ask me, ur foglights look entirely stock.
I have been thinking about doing HID for foglights and so far haven't seen any for 2001 TL.
I have to say that yours look very clean and a nice write up is a plus too.
I have been thinking about doing HID for foglights and so far haven't seen any for 2001 TL.
I have to say that yours look very clean and a nice write up is a plus too.
11-09-2007, 04:02 PM
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hey guys , wat if i jus bought the 8500k HID FOGLIGHT bulbs , so i need th ballast to make it on right ? and can some one show me wher to get the ballast from ?
11-09-2007, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by azn_xxxd
hey guys , wat if i jus bought the 8500k HID FOGLIGHT bulbs , so i need th ballast to make it on right ? and can some one show me wher to get the ballast from ?
And Why 8500k?
11-09-2007, 07:57 PM
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All HID need ballast.
Go to ebay.
You better off buy a kit for it (bulbs,wiring,and the ballast)
Fsttyms1 right.
Why 8500k?
8500K has alot less lights (less bright).
Go with 4300K-6000K
4300K put out the most lights/lumens.
I just put 4300K on the fog lights (like the factory headlights), and it's freaking bright.
I love it...
Go to ebay.
You better off buy a kit for it (bulbs,wiring,and the ballast)
Fsttyms1 right.
Why 8500k?
8500K has alot less lights (less bright).
Go with 4300K-6000K
4300K put out the most lights/lumens.
I just put 4300K on the fog lights (like the factory headlights), and it's freaking bright.
I love it...
11-16-2007, 02:45 PM
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thanks for the instructions. I'll be picking my 6000K's tonight.
Since it should be all plug and play, I'm wondering if I can simply plug the new ballast and wiring to all the old ones. Or do i need do a direct replacement with the new & old foglight wiring.
Any additional tips from you guys would be great since I'm a newbie to electrical wirings under my car.
I have only done my fog light bulb replacements before but never a HID kit.
Since it should be all plug and play, I'm wondering if I can simply plug the new ballast and wiring to all the old ones. Or do i need do a direct replacement with the new & old foglight wiring.
Any additional tips from you guys would be great since I'm a newbie to electrical wirings under my car.
I have only done my fog light bulb replacements before but never a HID kit.
11-17-2007, 03:54 AM
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I got them from a group buy on another forum, but there are some vendors here that sell them. I think member Excelerate can get them, can't remember the others.
I am not a big fan of the bulbs that come with the cheaper kits like Techone, but I ordered a D2R/D2S/D2C wire harness from Ebay so I could use genuine Philips bulbs that were rebased for 9006 fitment. Its all plug n play, just using OEM bulbs that fit right into the fog housing without modification. I no longer have the yellow fog bulbs, I am using the OEM 4100K Philips bulb. One exception, they are D2S not D2R bulbs like our headlights. The D2S bulbs put out more light and will work better for our fog housing. The rebased bulbs put the focal point of the light intensity right at or very near stock halogens which results in brighter farther reaching and wider light for our housings.
The D2R/D2S/D2C harness simply has the pos and neg pigtail connections on one end and the D2R/D2S/D2C style bulb connection on the other. The pigtails connect right to the aftermarket ballast like Techone. If you search on ebay for "D2R/D2S/D2C harness" or "D2R Wire Harness" you should find it. We can't post links to ebay here.
Then, do a "D2S rebased 9006" search on ebay to find the Philips bulbs. Make sur e the sellers bulbs actually have the O ring on there. It will prevent moisture from getting in. That's another issue with 9006 HID kits, the bulb fitment is not that tight. Some are, some aren't.
Sorry for the long post, but thought I would update.
I am not a big fan of the bulbs that come with the cheaper kits like Techone, but I ordered a D2R/D2S/D2C wire harness from Ebay so I could use genuine Philips bulbs that were rebased for 9006 fitment. Its all plug n play, just using OEM bulbs that fit right into the fog housing without modification. I no longer have the yellow fog bulbs, I am using the OEM 4100K Philips bulb. One exception, they are D2S not D2R bulbs like our headlights. The D2S bulbs put out more light and will work better for our fog housing. The rebased bulbs put the focal point of the light intensity right at or very near stock halogens which results in brighter farther reaching and wider light for our housings.
The D2R/D2S/D2C harness simply has the pos and neg pigtail connections on one end and the D2R/D2S/D2C style bulb connection on the other. The pigtails connect right to the aftermarket ballast like Techone. If you search on ebay for "D2R/D2S/D2C harness" or "D2R Wire Harness" you should find it. We can't post links to ebay here.
Then, do a "D2S rebased 9006" search on ebay to find the Philips bulbs. Make sur e the sellers bulbs actually have the O ring on there. It will prevent moisture from getting in. That's another issue with 9006 HID kits, the bulb fitment is not that tight. Some are, some aren't.
Sorry for the long post, but thought I would update.
11-17-2007, 12:39 PM
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^^^
Sorry, I got the yellows back in. Actually, I was too damn lazy to swap the 3000K yellows back to the 4300K whites this summer, so the yellows have been in for quite a while now. I don't have any pics of the 4300K unfortunately.
Muhtish, yes. All I did was plug n play with my stock fog light wiring. The plug for the fog bulb provides the power signal for the ballast (each side). The other end of the ballast wiring connects to the new HID bulb. It is a stupidly simple install if you ask me. To be honest, I had a tougher time changing bulbs on my low beam HID headlights than installing this HID fog system..those fukkin headlight spring clips are a major pain in the ass LOL!
Sorry, I got the yellows back in. Actually, I was too damn lazy to swap the 3000K yellows back to the 4300K whites this summer, so the yellows have been in for quite a while now. I don't have any pics of the 4300K unfortunately.
Muhtish, yes. All I did was plug n play with my stock fog light wiring. The plug for the fog bulb provides the power signal for the ballast (each side). The other end of the ballast wiring connects to the new HID bulb. It is a stupidly simple install if you ask me. To be honest, I had a tougher time changing bulbs on my low beam HID headlights than installing this HID fog system..those fukkin headlight spring clips are a major pain in the ass LOL!
11-20-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CJITTY
^^^
Sorry, I got the yellows back in. Actually, I was too damn lazy to swap the 3000K yellows back to the 4300K whites this summer, so the yellows have been in for quite a while now. I don't have any pics of the 4300K unfortunately.
Muhtish, yes. All I did was plug n play with my stock fog light wiring. The plug for the fog bulb provides the power signal for the ballast (each side). The other end of the ballast wiring connects to the new HID bulb. It is a stupidly simple install if you ask me. To be honest, I had a tougher time changing bulbs on my low beam HID headlights than installing this HID fog system..those fukkin headlight spring clips are a major pain in the ass LOL!
Sorry, I got the yellows back in. Actually, I was too damn lazy to swap the 3000K yellows back to the 4300K whites this summer, so the yellows have been in for quite a while now. I don't have any pics of the 4300K unfortunately.
Muhtish, yes. All I did was plug n play with my stock fog light wiring. The plug for the fog bulb provides the power signal for the ballast (each side). The other end of the ballast wiring connects to the new HID bulb. It is a stupidly simple install if you ask me. To be honest, I had a tougher time changing bulbs on my low beam HID headlights than installing this HID fog system..those fukkin headlight spring clips are a major pain in the ass LOL!
I'll see if I can post some pics after my install this coming week
06-27-2008, 10:10 AM
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My thread lives on!!! LOL! No, if you mount the ballasts where I did, they shouldn't get hardly any exposure to water. The ballasts should be sealed and I just used electrical tape and wrapped any potential areas for exposure just to be safe!
08-01-2008, 04:59 AM
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Quick Question
Quick question
You think the dealer can adjust the Low beam and Foglights for me? The car is lowerd already, but not crazy slammed. You think they can do this for free when I take it in for an Oil Change or something?
Or Is there any information about a DIY on Aiming the Low Beam to Spec? And same for the Fog Lights? ( I already know about the gear that aims them, just want to do them right, and about the driver side aiming lower and/or more inner to not blind on coming traffic ya?)
Thanks for any input!
You think the dealer can adjust the Low beam and Foglights for me? The car is lowerd already, but not crazy slammed. You think they can do this for free when I take it in for an Oil Change or something?
Or Is there any information about a DIY on Aiming the Low Beam to Spec? And same for the Fog Lights? ( I already know about the gear that aims them, just want to do them right, and about the driver side aiming lower and/or more inner to not blind on coming traffic ya?)
Thanks for any input!
08-06-2008, 10:30 PM
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The headlights are very easy. Remember, the slightest movement of the gear on the housing makes a big difference, so don't go cranking and cranking it..I recommend finding the most even parking area near a nice smooth wall, no brick or anything with lines. Adjust one up or down and match up the beam lines so they are even. Then, I pull the car away from the wall and walk down the street a little. 20- 30 feet or so. I slowly bend down and see if the most intense part of the beams hit me at the same time. So, some times the beams will be like this:
L***
......... ***R
You want them like this obviously
L*** ***R
By simply making very slight adjustments to make sure the beams hit you at the same time, then they will be pretty close. Same thing with the fog beams. I think they are easier to aim since the cast a long line across the wall..simply match them up to desired height..I need to lower mine a little. Those HIDs are bright as shit but still a decent cutoff. The fogs have the same gear but kind of pain to get to...I actually remove the screw like I'm taking out the housing and then turn the gear, place it back in the bumper and get them just right, then put the screw back in to keep them there. Remember, make small adjustments, every 1/2 turn or so will move the lights!!! Also, the fog line should be below the headlight line..not merged together
Good luck
L***
......... ***R
You want them like this obviously
L*** ***R
By simply making very slight adjustments to make sure the beams hit you at the same time, then they will be pretty close. Same thing with the fog beams. I think they are easier to aim since the cast a long line across the wall..simply match them up to desired height..I need to lower mine a little. Those HIDs are bright as shit but still a decent cutoff. The fogs have the same gear but kind of pain to get to...I actually remove the screw like I'm taking out the housing and then turn the gear, place it back in the bumper and get them just right, then put the screw back in to keep them there. Remember, make small adjustments, every 1/2 turn or so will move the lights!!! Also, the fog line should be below the headlight line..not merged together
Good luck
10-06-2008, 11:52 AM
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The headlights are very easy. Remember, the slightest movement of the gear on the housing makes a big difference, so don't go cranking and cranking it..I recommend finding the most even parking area near a nice smooth wall, no brick or anything with lines. Adjust one up or down and match up the beam lines so they are even. Then, I pull the car away from the wall and walk down the street a little. 20- 30 feet or so. I slowly bend down and see if the most intense part of the beams hit me at the same time. So, some times the beams will be like this:
L***
......... ***R
You want them like this obviously
L*** ***R
By simply making very slight adjustments to make sure the beams hit you at the same time, then they will be pretty close. Same thing with the fog beams. I think they are easier to aim since the cast a long line across the wall..simply match them up to desired height..I need to lower mine a little. Those HIDs are bright as shit but still a decent cutoff. The fogs have the same gear but kind of pain to get to...I actually remove the screw like I'm taking out the housing and then turn the gear, place it back in the bumper and get them just right, then put the screw back in to keep them there. Remember, make small adjustments, every 1/2 turn or so will move the lights!!! Also, the fog line should be below the headlight line..not merged together
Good luck
L***
......... ***R
You want them like this obviously
L*** ***R
By simply making very slight adjustments to make sure the beams hit you at the same time, then they will be pretty close. Same thing with the fog beams. I think they are easier to aim since the cast a long line across the wall..simply match them up to desired height..I need to lower mine a little. Those HIDs are bright as shit but still a decent cutoff. The fogs have the same gear but kind of pain to get to...I actually remove the screw like I'm taking out the housing and then turn the gear, place it back in the bumper and get them just right, then put the screw back in to keep them there. Remember, make small adjustments, every 1/2 turn or so will move the lights!!! Also, the fog line should be below the headlight line..not merged together
Good luck
L***
......... ***R
10-07-2008, 09:46 PM
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correct, 100% plug and play. The power and ground sources come from connector for the bulb wire harness. The wire harness for the stock fog bulb is a negative and positive plug. There are no wires to splice at all. Imagine taking the halogen bulb out of the wire harness, you see connection. With the HID kit, Instead of the halogen bulb, the HID harness simply plugs into the stock bulb wire harness that leads to the ballast/igniter module for the HID kit (one unit per bulb). Then, the other end of the module is the wire that leads to the new 9006 fitted HID bulb. Insert the bulb to the fog light housing and you are done. The part that took the longest....getting the bumper off to get very easy access to mount the two modules.
I have a Techone 3000K HID kit that is close to three years old. Excelerate (our vendor) has Kaixen HID kits cheap and they are 100% plug n play too. I wouldn't mess with a kit that wires up to the battery and requires separate ground. I like clean plug n play, plus there are relays along the way to help protect things.
I have a Techone 3000K HID kit that is close to three years old. Excelerate (our vendor) has Kaixen HID kits cheap and they are 100% plug n play too. I wouldn't mess with a kit that wires up to the battery and requires separate ground. I like clean plug n play, plus there are relays along the way to help protect things.
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11-29-2008, 10:57 AM
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nice write up man. i've been wondering what yellow fogs look like on a WDP and know i know. probably going to be one the first mods, i had yellow OEM fogs on my accord and LOVED them.
12-30-2008, 12:47 AM
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12-30-2008, 07:36 AM
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^ he is exactly right, just buy a 4300K kit from the start to match up to low beams.
as mentioned above in another post of mine, if you don't have a 4300K hid kit, you can get the harnesses to connect a pigtail hid kit to another d2s, d2c or d2r bulb with 9006 housing collars w/o buying a new hid kit. or, some hid kit websites sell pigtail wired hid bulbs with different kelvin options that will connect to an existing hid kit setup. you just need to make sure the pigtail connectors match and most websites have closeups of the two ends to make sure the male/female pigtails will work with your kit. they are making it way to easy these days, but that's good!!
as mentioned above in another post of mine, if you don't have a 4300K hid kit, you can get the harnesses to connect a pigtail hid kit to another d2s, d2c or d2r bulb with 9006 housing collars w/o buying a new hid kit. or, some hid kit websites sell pigtail wired hid bulbs with different kelvin options that will connect to an existing hid kit setup. you just need to make sure the pigtail connectors match and most websites have closeups of the two ends to make sure the male/female pigtails will work with your kit. they are making it way to easy these days, but that's good!!
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01-03-2009, 07:35 PM
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installed mine today! was easy as pie with this excellent diy - thanks unclejitty! i will have to take off the rockblocker film though - the lenses get too hot from the bulbs. i may just buy some lexan and cut it to size....
the output is super green niagara piss yellow - like the green goblin dropped a load on the road, then it settles out to a nice yellow
will send you a pic later.
the output is super green niagara piss yellow - like the green goblin dropped a load on the road, then it settles out to a nice yellow
will send you a pic later.
01-04-2009, 12:12 AM
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^^Daniel, that is great!! Glad I could help. If you need help adjusting the aim, I can certainly give you some tips that really make it easy. The fog beam pattern should "fill" the dark space between your bumper and where the low beam pattern starts on the road. Anything higher than that, oncoming driver will see glare most likely unless you have D2R style bulbs with ceramic glare shields like our stock headlights, but those are hard to find with 9006 collar fitments.
Just let me know one day and I can bring my rhino ramps with me out to Marietta and you can get the front end up higher to get up into that adjustment screw and it makes it easier to kneel down and checking that the beam intensity on both fog lenses hit at the same time.
Can't wait to see them. My yellow HID fogs came in real handy tonight with this pea soup foggy weather we have going on here in the ATL tonight. The valet guy even commented on them at this restaurant in Buckhead..asking me how the fawk did I get my fogs so bright and yellow...HID Fogs FTW!!!
Just let me know one day and I can bring my rhino ramps with me out to Marietta and you can get the front end up higher to get up into that adjustment screw and it makes it easier to kneel down and checking that the beam intensity on both fog lenses hit at the same time.
Can't wait to see them. My yellow HID fogs came in real handy tonight with this pea soup foggy weather we have going on here in the ATL tonight. The valet guy even commented on them at this restaurant in Buckhead..asking me how the fawk did I get my fogs so bright and yellow...HID Fogs FTW!!!
01-06-2009, 06:28 PM
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great thread, well donewhats the max amount of wattage our stock fog light harness/wires/fuse can handle safely if i were to plug in a more powerful 9006 bulb?
could they handle 68 watts?? LED bulbs.
thanks
01-09-2009, 05:30 PM
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Honestly, keep it to 55 watt halogen (stock wattage) or 35 watt if using HID system..they make 50 watt HID systems but i say stick with what works and trust me, 35 watt HID setup is hella brighter than a 55 watt halogen stock 9006 bulb.
01-22-2009, 10:15 PM
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Ok, as promised (2 years ago lol), here is the info for using the rebased bulbs that gives you more flexibility with your aftermarket HID kit:
To use rebased DS2, D2R or D2C bulbs, all you typically would need is the D2R/D2S/D2C wire adapter harness that you can find on ebay and other sites for about $5 to $20. It looks like this and simply connects to the pigtails of your aftermarket HID kit pigtails. All you need to do is match up your positive/negative male/female connectors of your HID kit pigtails to the pigtails of the wire harness you see on the website. This will help you to avoid trying to splice wires...with HID power, I recommend not doing any splicing and just make sure the plugs match up. Here is the harness:
The rebased HID bulb looks just like a standard OEM type HID bulb except a 9006 collar has been added to the base of the bulb and it does a pretty good job of keeping the focal point where the halogen focal point would be. That bulb looks like this and is available also on ebay. This is a D2S bulb since it does not have the ceramic glare shield.
If you want to see pics of the 4100K's in action, please proceed here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-photograph-gallery-99/pics-hid-fog-update-4100k-philips-bulbs-706603/
To use rebased DS2, D2R or D2C bulbs, all you typically would need is the D2R/D2S/D2C wire adapter harness that you can find on ebay and other sites for about $5 to $20. It looks like this and simply connects to the pigtails of your aftermarket HID kit pigtails. All you need to do is match up your positive/negative male/female connectors of your HID kit pigtails to the pigtails of the wire harness you see on the website. This will help you to avoid trying to splice wires...with HID power, I recommend not doing any splicing and just make sure the plugs match up. Here is the harness:
The rebased HID bulb looks just like a standard OEM type HID bulb except a 9006 collar has been added to the base of the bulb and it does a pretty good job of keeping the focal point where the halogen focal point would be. That bulb looks like this and is available also on ebay. This is a D2S bulb since it does not have the ceramic glare shield.
If you want to see pics of the 4100K's in action, please proceed here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-photograph-gallery-99/pics-hid-fog-update-4100k-philips-bulbs-706603/
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any one got some info on it?
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in all honesty, the ballasts these days are so much smaller than the ones I have..you may not need to do all that now..just mount them and run the wires down if thet are long enough..if you want a superclean wiring look, then it is way easier to do it with the bumper off to completely hide everything. do a google search with "TL bumper removal" and "acurazine" and it should yield you some results..good luck!
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fogs are very easy to aim..dealer is a ripoff..just follow my instructions in the DIY...i simply turn on fogs and walk out about 15 feet and kneel down with some sunglasses on lol and adjust them so the beam intensity's hit at the same exact time on both lights..you may need to do it a few times because one side may not be even..you'll know when its right..i try using the wall and match up the lines, but I like my other method better..just used to doing it that way. you need to drive around at night..the hid fog pattern should fill all the dark space on the road between your bumper and where the headlight beam starts with a very slight bleed over..anything higher than that, you will get flashed
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This instruction manual for installing the front lip tells you how to remove the front bumper.
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