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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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2003 tl muffler options

I just ordered my magnaflow quad tips. 2.25. Im now looking around to see which route i should take, if whether glasspack or other such as flowmaster or magnaflow. Ive read that glasspack burn out n sound different over time. So i want to know what you guys recommend. For now im just doing a mid muff delete and installing tips with a new muffler. I want it to be an aggressive sound, not a rice cooker. Input would be great!
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 03:04 PM
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Basically, it all depends upon your budget.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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Well im open for suggestions. Im doing a custom exhaust.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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As 3.2TLc stated its, all dependent on your budget...

I assume when you say "magnaflow quad tips. 2.25" that means something like this:
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where you have dual tips for each muffler. Several options here:

1) Run straight pipes to the tips (basically delete rear mufflers and keep mid). This may be louder than what you want (Probably cheapest)

2) Run straight pipes to the tips (delete rear mufflers and mid muffler). This "again" may be louder than what you want, but still an option (a little more in cost)

3) Delete mid muffler and buy new 2 mufflers. Quick amazon search yielded
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You'd still need to do your homework on the muffler for correct inlet/outlet diameter, inlet/outlet offsets, muffler length, and performance/sound that fit the TL (and your taste) that would accommodate the tips you purchased.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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Well i just bought megan racing coilovers so my budget isnt so strict as it once was. As for sound quality though, im looking for that bad ass aggressive sound rather than a high pitched "bwaaaaaah" type of civic noise. Not sure of that helps. Lol. As far as my set up, i already have tips, so a pair of good quality mufflers was what i was looking into. And a mid muffler delete replaced by a straight pipe, will that make a loud raspy noise or a cleaner noise?
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 04:27 PM
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youtube will be your friend:


another member on here did straight pipes. Sounded fine to me.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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^ STRAIGHT PIPES! All you will need IMO... I love it every fucking second of my work trip, No issues with cops either.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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Straight pipes it is then! Does straight pipe alter gas or back flow Any differently than glass packs or mufflers?
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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damn that video is old. Only thing I did in that video was delete the rear mufflers, stock resonator and mid mufflers are still there.

Keeping both mid muffler and resonator is your friend if you want to prevent rasp from your car, otherwise you're going in blindly and will be a hit or miss.

Only thing I hated with my route was the stock piping was left in, so at night once lights are shined at the rear of my car you can see how ugly it is underneath, so I recently just spray painted it.

Oh yeah, once you hit vtec all you hear is the motor/intake and not much of the exhaust, just listen to my vtec crossover lol

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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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^ INDEED! I leaved the Resonator and Mid Muffler too.
No Rasp and just only a little bit of drone under 2K.. WOT Sounds Impressive though.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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So then which route should i take? I want a nice shiny stainless/chrome finish
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Originally Posted by Xxb005txx
So then which route should i take? I want a nice shiny stainless/chrome finish
Again, that's up to you

If it was me, I want the best bang for the buck. With that, I'd do straight pipes as the others mentioned. If you want shiny, look into an ATLP exhaust.

I just did a custom exhaust for my RSX and saved hundreds of dollars with the same performance if not better than the shiny ones

Here is my custom 2.5" catback exhaust I just put on my RSX (Flowmaster HP2 as resonator and Dynomax super turbo muffler in the rear)

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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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As far as sound quality, ik of another member on here that did a simlar setup than to what im looking into and his sound was pretty sick. It was just a mid muff delete, a glasspack and some magnaflow tips
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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Thanks! ^^^^^ cant really quote people on here. Mobile site on my phone is pretty boojie. So straight pipes will do then. Now as far as the tips i already have, that would mean replacing what exactly with straight pipes? The actual piping from my mid muff back?
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Xxb005txx
Thanks! ^^^^^ cant really quote people on here. Mobile site on my phone is pretty boojie. So straight pipes will do then. Now as far as the tips i already have, that would mean replacing what exactly with straight pipes? The actual piping from my mid muff back?
yup Just have them cut the rear mufflers off and replace with a straight pipe to your tips. You can go farther back if you want, but not sure of any additional performance gains other then looks as HairMonkey019 mentioned.

If you want to test the sound before actually committing top cutting them off, unbolt the rear mufflers and you can get a feel of the sound before hacking up the exhaust.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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I recommend going titanium... But do aluminum and paint it black. And you can leave the tips shiny and can always buff it.

You can replace all of the piping or at least cut everything after the mid muffler so it doesn't look ugly from the rear
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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^ Yah just do the Y-PIPE to the rear.. Its what people can see while driving anyway.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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So straight pipe the Y-pipe to the tips? Thanks for the input guys
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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Keep the resonator + mid muffler pipe, Go custom Y-Pipe to Rear only. We call it "AXLEBACK".


I guarantee you its loud enough without veering into RICER territory. If you remove the Resonator and Mid Muffler it will rasp like hell and will have a louder drone.. There is no need to go full straight pipe from catback unless your aiming for maximum performance regardless of noise.
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 11:13 PM
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Perfect. Thanks dude. As for the piping used to straight pipe, ive seen some pipes at advance autoparts. Will those do, or do i need to get better quality from another place? Will a shop doing the welding installation overcharge if i buy pipes there?
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 12:22 AM
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^ Again if your not looking for maximum performance.. any pipe will do.
The custom shops use some lightweight stuff so they are lighter than stock too. If your looking for Loudness don't sweat it, any pipe will do.


If you want to preview the sound just remove both mufflers, The car will sound louder since the pipes end at the rear wheel wells but once you straight pipe it to the rear it will be less loud cuz the noise will be going to the back! Drone is also heavier with just the mufflers out so don't mind it.


Just try it once I removed the mufflers I was Sold on Straight Pipes.
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 01:42 AM
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Thanks. Im looking to get dc headers on the long run with an aem cai so hopefully my setup can manage decent quality. Thank you all for your
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 02:15 AM
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if for now you're just looking for a decent, slightly louder nice sound, removing the mufflers is fine ... & no one needs to "cut" them off. it literally takes 5 min to unbolt both of them without even jacking the car up. also, you may want to revert back to stock at some point, so i suggest to always keep your oem mufflers just in case. & if & once you get dc headers, you will definitely want to open up the piping from the cat-back to 2.5 - 3" & replace that stock res with a vibrant ultra quiet 2.5" - 3" straight through res, that is if you're looking to utilize the maximum potential of the headers. i expected too much i think, thinking my 1/4 mile would cut down 2 or 3 tenths once i had installed the dc headers, but it only took off 1/10th sec. ... once opened up piping all the way back, 3 to 4/10ths quicker - that is with a complete straight through system though meaning piping (obviously), resonators (i have 2 vibrants) & the mufflers (borla xr1's) are all straight through design.
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 08:34 AM
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yup Just have them cut the rear mufflers off and replace with a straight pipe to your tips. You can go farther back if you want, but not sure of any additional performance gains other then looks as HairMonkey019 mentioned.

If you want to test the sound before actually committing top cutting them off, unbolt the rear mufflers and you can get a feel of the sound before hacking up the exhaust.
If you are modding the car there is a ton to be gained from a much larger dia pipe from the cat back. Many have seen great gains from 3". I ran dual 2.25 and gained over 3 mph in 1/4, and was a difference you could feel
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
If you are modding the car there is a ton to be gained from a much larger dia pipe from the cat back. Many have seen great gains from 3". I ran dual 2.25 and gained over 3 mph in 1/4, and was a difference you could feel
I wholeheartedly agree My comment was more directed from the y pipe back based on the direction of this thread.

What you mention here is another aspect that the OP may want (or SHOULD) consider now that he mentioned CAI and RH. I would consider running a larger diameter pipe from the catback. That's what I did for my RSX.

For my wife's 2G, no plans to run CAI or headers, so just removing the rear mufflers and putting pipes on as described above would work for a nicer tone.
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Knowledge B) i got a lot of planning to do then. As far as dropping the car on megans with all this new exhaust work, how bad will puddles here in south miami be of a threat?
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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Knowledge B) i got a lot of planning to do then. As far as dropping the car on megans with all this new exhaust work, how bad will puddles here in south miami be of a threat?
Why would you think that would be a threat? The exhaust is designed to get wet. Its exposed on the bottom of the car to begin with.
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rust wise? Shouldn't be bad. Like I had stated earlier, just paint the piping underneath black and leave your tips shiny, you'll be better off that way
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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Why would you think that would be a threat? The exhaust is designed to get wet. Its exposed on the bottom of the car to begin with.
Putting aside the clearly obvious statement, i meant a threat as water actually getting inside the exhaust pipe. Miami weather is bipolar n puddles turn to lagoons in the blink of an eye. And thanks guys
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
If you are modding the car there is a ton to be gained from a much larger dia pipe from the cat back. Many have seen great gains from 3". I ran dual 2.25 and gained over 3 mph in 1/4, and was a difference you could feel
hey that's basically what i said!!! haha ... but yes this is 100% proven to be correct. i had 4" intake, dc headers, ingalls damper, ud pulley, better gripping tires, about 60 lbs weight reduction & it seemed as if opening up my exhaust (which i did last!) unleashed all of the power these mods were waiting to dish out.
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Lol, you never put a hose in ur pipes??? And sprayed water?

You'll be fine, water in ur puppies just give it a weird sound on start up lol
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Putting aside the clearly obvious statement, i meant a threat as water actually getting inside the exhaust pipe. Miami weather is bipolar n puddles turn to lagoons in the blink of an eye. And thanks guys
And how would it be any different than stock? Its still going to be in the same location and height as oem.

And if you drive into lagoons you have other issues to be concerned about.
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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And how would it be any different than stock? Its still going to be in the same location and height as oem.

And if you drive into lagoons you have other issues to be concerned about.
The fact that im lowered now would make a difference i suppose. Either way my questions have been answered thus far. And alright guys, thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure before ruining other things while trying to install my mods.
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The fact that im lowered now would make a difference i suppose. Either way my questions have been answered thus far. And alright guys, thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure before ruining other things while trying to install my mods.
Like i said, aftermarket exhaust or stock, its not going to make a difference. They are both in the same location, same height and are designed to be exposed to the elements. Also, like i said, If you were to be in that deep of water you have other things to worry about than water and your exhaust (which by the way when the car is running can be submerged, exhaust will still flow out and water wont go in)
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