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Old 04-15-2011, 10:22 AM
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01 TL-P with k&n drop in filter

Good day Aziners. Full bott half of air box cut off with k&n filter drop in . How is it compare to injen or aem v2 cai in term of sound,torque and hp?
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Ok, from what I can understand (which is not very much), you are saying that you have an intake resonator delete and a K&N filter?

AEM V2 CAI is the best intake mod for your engine, in terms of HP and torque. The sound of a CAI is also much more aggressive than just a K&N and resonator delete.
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if you have a TL-P, there is only one CAI to get. the AEM V2.
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Yes Sir i had the intake resonator delete & k&n filter. I also have xs headers,mid muffler delete,0.9" MDX
I/M spacer,1/4" thermol spacer & 1" I/M chamber spacer.
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the removed resonator box, along with what I think you did- was cut open the stock air filter box on the bottem, and the K&N
thats actually a good setup- per the head tech at acura dealer near me

- gets cold air from outside the car-- into a large storage area for use on demand.
does not pass air thru a heated tube like a cai does-
air sits in the inner fenderwell, which has water drain slots so thats not an issue

To make it work better: take a dremel tool to the fake foglight area on driver side
cut out the low sections between the raised sections- so it lets air in but keeps small animals out (guess how I know) and looks stock

next, get a lightweight crankshaft pulley and the car will rev faster- get to vtec where the power is
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01tl4tl & Aziners thanks for the feedback. I also have a JDM fog lights in place of USDM bumper, so guess i leave the way it is.
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
the removed resonator box, along with what I think you did- was cut open the stock air filter box on the bottem, and the K&N
thats actually a good setup- per the head tech at acura dealer near me

- gets cold air from outside the car-- into a large storage area for use on demand.
does not pass air thru a heated tube like a cai does-
air sits in the inner fenderwell, which has water drain slots so thats not an issue

To make it work better: take a dremel tool to the fake foglight area on driver side
cut out the low sections between the raised sections- so it lets air in but keeps small animals out (guess how I know) and looks stock

next, get a lightweight crankshaft pulley and the car will rev faster- get to vtec where the power is
LOL, I could just imagine you opening your air box to change your filter, and a squirrel jumps out of nowhere.
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Originally Posted by Karanx7
LOL, I could just imagine you opening your air box to change your filter, and a squirrel jumps out of nowhere.
Ha Ha Ha. TL-P yields a lot of power from AEM V2 CAI. Well over 10hp. Thats a good jump when your car only makes 225hp. You'll def feel the gains. Why go buy a K&N drop-in filter to get nothing out of it? No power gains or throaty aggressive sound especially when in VTEC. There are def power gains to be made in the TL-P's J32. Next should be Megan Racing or DC Sports Headers.
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some of us like to be stealthy--headers are never quiet~

If you need that much more HP...turbo,, but dont plan on the trans lasting very long

you can add some dryer ducting to bring air from the center lower grill over to the fenderwell `air storage area` to get cooler outside air,,just like nascar!!

It wasnt a surprise I got opening the airbox,,
but the kitties sleeping inside the newfound area were rudely awakened
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
some of us like to be stealthy--headers are never quiet~

If you need that much more HP...turbo,, but dont plan on the trans lasting very long

you can add some dryer ducting to bring air from the center lower grill over to the fenderwell `air storage area` to get cooler outside air,,just like nascar!!

It wasnt a surprise I got opening the airbox,,
but the kitties sleeping inside the newfound area were rudely awakened

thats what i have on my 99 TL-------i have a 3 inch black flex pipe from the bottom of the middle grille goin to the intake

sooo when im driving---its constantley getting air from the outside----its a pretty neat setup i have
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
some of us like to be stealthy--headers are never quiet~

If you need that much more HP...turbo,, but dont plan on the trans lasting very long

you can add some dryer ducting to bring air from the center lower grill over to the fenderwell `air storage area` to get cooler outside air,,just like nascar!!

It wasnt a surprise I got opening the airbox,,
but the kitties sleeping inside the newfound area were rudely awakened
I have never heard this before. headers gain 25-30hp on TL-P. It's a def plus. The exhaust gain an additional10hp. I always do quiet exhausts like Apex WE so headers never had a loud sound. Rice exhausts yes.
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Does Megan Racing or DC Sports Headers any better than XS-power header? I might have to wrap my XS-power headers because the resonance is bothersome sometimes.
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Originally Posted by demulti
Does Megan Racing or DC Sports Headers any better than XS-power header? I might have to wrap my XS-power headers because the resonance is bothersome sometimes.
What exhaust are you running?
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^ They're just OEM exhaust
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I would like to see dyno runs showing 25hp gain from headers on a TL
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
I would like to see dyno runs showing 25hp gain from headers on a TL
Comptech exhaust gain 30hp. Comptech had dyno plots b4 they changed their name. They def make that amount of power as I had them on my CL-S6. The DC sports headers make 25hp and cost way less than the Comptech Headers ($1000). Megan Racing Headers are way cheaper too. I can post it all here if you like.

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^ They're just OEM exhaust
The sound will be fine. Almost like stock. The TL-P exhaust is asking to be changed though. The Tsudo exhaust ($399.99) is a nice and mellow exhaust system.
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wow I had no idea--guess I think of the TL as the Luxury Tourer with decent track day manners and abilities,,that the wife drives most of the time now,,,
and operates without attracting attention of the law every time its started

Have a bike for that!!

thats at the wheels 25 hp?,, or at the crackshaft?
with lightweight pulley during testing? or their other company made mods-icebox etc?
or just one mod-install headers- done- test?

I have no doubt they improve power, every race car I have worked with has headers-
just surprised at ~10% gain on a 225 hp car (approx average number picked from thin air)

maybe I really am as old as my avatar says,,,prefer to keep the transport vehicle quiet...
all while drilling out the end plate baffles on the 2 wheeler
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
wow I had no idea--guess I think of the TL as the Luxury Tourer with decent track day manners and abilities,,that the wife drives most of the time now,,,
and operates without attracting attention of the law every time its started

Have a bike for that!!

thats at the wheels 25 hp?,, or at the crackshaft?
with lightweight pulley during testing? or their other company made mods-icebox etc?
or just one mod-install headers- done- test?

I have no doubt they improve power, every race car I have worked with has headers-
just surprised at ~10% gain on a 225 hp car (approx average number picked from thin air)

maybe I really am as old as my avatar says,,,prefer to keep the transport vehicle quiet...
all while drilling out the end plate baffles on the 2 wheeler
Wheels. Comptech had the dyno of the headers on a CL and it was in the low 20s for hp. Most that add headers are showing 25s or so when headers were added (with the other mods already on the car)
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^Roughly how many hp i am looking at if i have k&n drop in filter,0.25" Outlaw Thermo spacer,0.9" mdx spacer,1" plenum spacer & xs headers,stock exhaust?
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how many HP will you be looking at? how many Highway Patrol will you meet from these mods???

what does each makers website claim? add those up--ck if measured at crank or wheels.
install a lightweight crank pulley to get into vtec faster

thermospacers dont make hp-- as much as they prevent power loss from less dense hotter air thru the manifold
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Originally Posted by demulti
^Roughly how many hp i am looking at if i have k&n drop in filter,0.25" Outlaw Thermo spacer,0.9" mdx spacer,1" plenum spacer & xs headers,stock exhaust?
32hp max with headers doing 25-30 of that. You are still corking the exhaust by adding Header then having that open exhaust gas push back through a stock TL-P exhaust which is pencil thin compared to even a stock TL-S. Those header dyno's where all done on a TL-S/CL-S. Until you get a nice exhaust, your headers may only gain 10-15 hp. After an exhaust it'll gain the full 25-30 plus 8-10hp from the exhaust.

Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
how many HP will you be looking at? how many Highway Patrol will you meet from these mods???

what does each makers website claim? add those up--ck if measured at crank or wheels.
install a lightweight crank pulley to get into vtec faster

thermospacers dont make hp-- as much as they prevent power loss from less dense hotter air thru the manifold
Why whould HP be on him for Headers? You lost me...
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I meant in a joking way that increases in HP= horsepower, can lead to increased HP= Highway Patrol, interaction
not so much for noise.... but the noise at 120~

who does all these mods and stays under 70?

I ---once again --encourage everyone to attend more than 1 track day/driving school/track day at your local road race track
No tickets, no oncoming traffic! 35-50 foot wide track that you use every inch of
and sometimes the instructors are real HP or local PD who are also race drivers that volunteer their time as instructors
actual cost of track day runs $150-200-300 for a full day with a pro racer as your coach and usually 4-5 30 minute sessions on course
price is depending on private club renting track,, to pro schools that have operations all over--ck the internet
Having one of the police instructors wave you past their car as you exit a corner,,going 80mph and on the throttle full = priceless

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