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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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i just zainoed my car today and noticed that the instuctions say that you should wait 24 hours to apply a second coat. I bought some Z6 and it says you should apply this between coats. Are you supposed to put this one on right before you apply the second coat or can put it on today and then wait a day to put the second coat on?

correct me if i am wrong but you are always supposed to end on Z6 right?
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Old Jan 13, 2002 | 09:29 PM
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buster - you can apply Z6 right away after Z2 or Z5, but when you are planning to add another coat I would wait until just before. The only reason I say wait is because you will want to clean the dust off anyway before applying the next coat.

Of course you can Z6 right away (helps reduce the static/dust pickup) and then do it again before you apply the next coat!

Enjoy!
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 01:35 AM
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From what I know, you can start applying the next coat when the stuff is dry.. meaning if you take your finger and run it along the paint, it will be completely dry underneath, not causing the polish stuff to move.
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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From what I know, you can start applying the next coat when the stuff is dry.. meaning if you take your finger and run it along the paint, it will be completely dry underneath, not causing the polish stuff to move.
Nope, that's referring to removing any excess residue when applying the polish.

Unless you are using Zaino's ZFX, you need to wait about 24 hours before applying a second coat of Z.
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 10:07 AM
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Nope, that's referring to removing any excess residue when applying the polish.

Unless you are using Zaino's ZFX, you need to wait about 24 hours before applying a second coat of Z.
Did they get new products or something? I've never heard of ZFX. I know that Sal was going to release a new product of some sort.

Geez.. I thought I was the Zaino-master.. well, only on Supraforums I suppose. haha
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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Did they get new products or something? I've never heard of ZFX.
ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive

Three years in the making, Zaino ZFX™ is finally here!

ZFX™, with Flash Cure™ (patent pending), is a revolutionary new polish enhancement additive that's exclusive to the Zaino Show Car Polish system. There's never been anything quite like ZFX™, and here's why:

All polish, sealant and wax protection systems must "cure" before they can effectively protect your paint. Once cured, all paint protection systems begin to deteriorate. The rate of deterioration depends on many factors, including the chemicals used, bonding qualities, weather, washing, and use of the car.

A very few specialty paint protection systems can be layered to increase protection and paint appearance. Layer-able systems must cure prior to application of subsequent coats. Depending on the product, cure time may take a few hours or a few days.

For lasting protection, most synthetic sealants are formulated to be hard. If not properly designed, synthetic sealants may crack, yellow or distort the optics of the paint surface.
ZFX™ is a Zaino Show Car Polish acceleration and appearance additive. It offers near-instant cure time, reduced surface distortion, enhanced polish flexibility, and improved bonding to both paint and additional layers of Show Car Polish. In simple terms, ZFX™ vastly improves paint surface appearance and increases polish durability.

ZFX™ is the product of more than 30 years experience painting show cars. Professional painters add chemicals and compounds to their paint mix prior to painting to improve paint flexibility, reduce paint imperfections, increase hardness, and improve gloss. We applied this same line of thinking in the development of ZFX™. The result is a stunning professional show car finish with less effort, no waiting and longer-lasting results.

ZFX™ can be used with any of our Show Car Polish products, including Z-2, Z-3 and Z-5. Plus, ZFX™ makes using Z-1 PreLok unnecessary on cars that have been clayed and thoroughly cleaned with Dawn dishwashing liquid.

When we say "acceleration," we mean it! Adding ZFX™ to any one of our Show Car Polishes prior to use is like kicking an F-14 Tomcat into afterburner. The competition just can't compete... we'll shoot them down every time. Perfect shine, less time -- guaranteed!
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Woohoo!

So, dry time is still a factor, especially in my area this time of the year. However, shorter cure time between coats and better durability. Also, better shine. Is there a downside? ... Yeah, too bad I already bought the Z-1.

Does anyone know how far this stuff goes and exactly how it is applied? Do you just add some to the Z-2/Z-5 applicator? According to the site, 2ml of ZFX costs $19.95.
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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You get a bunch of small plastic bottles with the ZFX. When you want to polish your car, you add about an ounce of Z2 or Z5 to the bottle with about 5-6 drops of ZFX. Shake it up and go to town. Should get 3-4 coats out of the mixture. When you're done, rinse out the bottle and enjoy the shine.
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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thanks all, i just did my first zaino yesterday and it looks great. i am going to do a second layer today. The weather here in CA is pretty good so i don't have to worry about drying time and stuff. It dry's pretty quick.
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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Another thing, i used the applicator pads from zaino. do you have to soak them in water or wash them in the washing machine to clean them? thanks again.
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Old Jan 14, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by busterkw
Another thing, i used the applicator pads from zaino. do you have to soak them in water or wash them in the washing machine to clean them? thanks again.
Big hint...switch to foam pads. You will use so much less Zaino that way.

I would soak them in dishwashing liquid. Running them through the washer will ruin them.
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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Big hint...switch to foam pads. You will use so much less Zaino that way.

I would soak them in dishwashing liquid. Running them through the washer will ruin them.
This stuff must be real new, COOL ! Gotta get me some. I've got 6 coats of z-5 and 3 of z-2.

So you use a generic foam applicator? I assume you don't need a very large one since you really don't have to 'rub' it in.
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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This stuff must be real new, COOL ! Gotta get me some. I've got 6 coats of z-5 and 3 of z-2.

So you use a generic foam applicator? I assume you don't need a very large one since you really don't have to 'rub' it in.
Yeah, I bought some generic foam applicator pads. Meguiars has some for sale at AutoZone I think. Any one will do. It just seems to hold a lot less product in the pores of the pad, meaning a lot less to do the car.

I'm actually starting over in the Spring. 3M Swirl Mark Remover with my new Porter Cable buffer, then ZFX for about 4-5 coats a day for a week straight. I don't drive my car much, I work from home.
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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Ordered! I am going to hit it again in the spring with many more coats of z-5. You'll have to let us know what you think of the 3m foam.
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 11:15 PM
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Big hint...switch to foam pads. You will use so much less Zaino that way.

I would soak them in dishwashing liquid. Running them through the washer will ruin them.

yup, i learned the hard way

after doing my wheels, it got very dirty (i thought my wheels were clean; i washed and rinsed 2 times with Z7 already) so i dropped it into the washing machine with the other towels
when it came out, it was all ripped up
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