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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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Would you do the 3.5 conversion if ....

You could get the block and all necessary items (other then custom pistons) and installation for 1785 bucks (might even be 1685) .......... ?
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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helllz yes. in a heart beat
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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no.

i got my block for 250$.


can you list the "necessary items" you're talking about?
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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rods stock pistons come iwth it ... etc etc .. im talking about all the parts necessary to make the 3.5 conversion bolt up to the head of a 3.2
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Including install? Hell yes. I would do it right now.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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lol pay attention damnit ! lmao without install

if that was installed my car would be at rick case for another 2 weeks right now mwahahaha
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurleysurf24
lol pay attention damnit ! lmao without install

if that was installed my car would be at rick case for another 2 weeks right now mwahahaha
I did pay attention "...and installation for $XXXX..."
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurleysurf24
lol pay attention damnit ! lmao without install

if that was installed my car would be at rick case for another 2 weeks right now mwahahaha
Maybe it's YOU that should pay attention.


Originally Posted by Hurleysurf24
You could get the block and all necessary items (other then custom pistons) and installation for 1785 bucks (might even be 1685) .......... ?
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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just sticking the 3.5 in your car isnt as good as doing the true potential of the conversion. you will see a increase over the tl-p hp but you still wont be at type-s hp

oh and also,you can use the TL block to do the conversion, you dont need a 3.5 block to do the conversion

to get the best benifit from doing it you need the crank, custom pistons (to create the desired compression ratio) type s cams and intake (wont see the best benifits if you currently have a tl-p due to needing the type s redline)
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Only if the 3.5 is the one from the new RL.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
just sticking the 3.5 in your car isnt as good as doing the true potential of the conversion. you will see a increase over the tl-p hp but you still wont be at type-s hp

oh and also,you can use the TL block to do the conversion, you dont need a 3.5 block to do the conversion

to get the best benifit from doing it you need the crank, custom pistons (to create the desired compression ratio) type s cams and intake (wont see the best benifits if you currently have a tl-p due to needing the type s redline)
he already has a type-s
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
just sticking the 3.5 in your car isnt as good as doing the true potential of the conversion. you will see a increase over the tl-p hp but you still wont be at type-s hp
well he has a TL-S...


Hurley: i paid 250$ for my block and the crank, rods and pistons were in it.

what you need for a 3.5 conversion is the block, type-s heads (which you already have), type-s cams (which you also have), and custom pistons. you can add more to the list but that's the minimum.

so in ur case 1785$ would be for the 3.5 block, rods and pistons....that's way too much.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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just do the crank and pistons, you dont need the whole block
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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wow, who knew that stuff was so cheap
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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@cur@ is right, seems like you dont need the whole 1785package....+ sounds like so much money for 5-10hp/20trq. and if you do pistons (who makes these?), crank and rods it'll prob come out to the same w/ labor


and to think i just spent 1800 putting a new engine in my '86 corolla!!
1300lb car w/ jap 160hp 20valve (5/cyl) 8400redline monster
^^still under surgery though...yes rwd "ae86"
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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whats the gains from a 3.5L conv.?
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by optiq
whats the gains from a 3.5L conv.?
from a good 3.5 conversion more than a SC
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
from a good 3.5 conversion more than a SC
im confused, which 3.5 are we talking. J5 or C5. Cause I was under the impression that a longitudal C5 would mount in the transverse J32 bay.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
im confused, which 3.5 are we talking. J5 or C5. Cause I was under the impression that a longitudal C5 would mount in the transverse J32 bay.
sorry, imeant c35, and j35. For some reason. number "3" key wasn't working last night!
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
im confused, which 3.5 are we talking. J5 or C5. Cause I was under the impression that a longitudal C5 would mount in the transverse J32 bay.
the 3.5 conversion is using the crank from a MDX and custom pistons and rods to achieve the desired compression, along with the 3.2 TL-S heads and intake. (there ae a few other little things also) as for the block, you can use the MDX block OR the TL-3.2 block. both will work.

the 3.5 is mounted Transverse in the pilot and mdx
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
just sticking the 3.5 in your car isnt as good as doing the true potential of the conversion. you will see a increase over the tl-p hp but you still wont be at type-s hp

oh and also,you can use the TL block to do the conversion, you dont need a 3.5 block to do the conversion

to get the best benifit from doing it you need the crank, custom pistons (to create the desired compression ratio) type s cams and intake (wont see the best benifits if you currently have a tl-p due to needing the type s redline)
how much less benifit, in gained hp do you loose from doin a 3.5 to a tl-p compared to a type s
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by yunginTL
how much less benifit, in gained hp do you loose from doin a 3.5 to a tl-p compared to a type s

there is no difference because you end up using the same part for both.. you have to use TL-S heads for the conversion, you cannot use TL-P heads (without modifications at least)
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by @cUr@-TL
there is no difference because you end up using the same part for both.. you have to use TL-S heads for the conversion, you cannot use TL-P heads (without modifications at least)
so how would the type s intake be integrated with a tl-p, is that necessary for the 3.5 conversion?
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yunginTL
so how would the type s intake be integrated with a tl-p, is that necessary for the 3.5 conversion?

it is not necessary, but it would be even better... but the dual stage intake makes thing difficult... a MDX intake manifold would probably work just as good.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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no one has done it with a tl-p so no one knows the hp difference, but it would have to be sizeable, look at teh difference between the tl-p and the type-s in hp.

the other thing is you cant just simply add the type-s heads and intake. the reasoning with the type-s parts is the increased rpm. and you cant "just" add that to the tl-p (since there is no way of raising the rpm redline)
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
no one has done it with a tl-p so no one knows the hp difference, but it would have to be sizeable, look at teh difference between the tl-p and the type-s in hp.

the other thing is you cant just simply add the type-s heads and intake. the reasoning with the type-s parts is the increased rpm. and you cant "just" add that to the tl-p (since there is no way of raising the rpm redline)
would the type s intake even work with a tl-p?
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by yunginTL
would the type s intake even work with a tl-p?
it would work, but it would probably be pointless, due to it bein designed for the type-s cams and redline. that and you would have to find a way to actavate the 2nd stage actautor in the type-s intake (not very hard if you know how do do a little custom wiring and have a vafc or something like that)
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
it would work, but it would probably be pointless, due to it bein designed for the type-s cams and redline. that and you would have to find a way to actavate the 2nd stage actautor in the type-s intake (not very hard if you know how do do a little custom wiring and have a vafc or something like that)
thanks for the knowledge
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Don't see how this is possible. Custom pistons will run you around $800 alone. You can't use factory pistons out of any of the J series motors if you want to achieve the desired compression ratio (approximately 10.2-10.5:1).

As others have said, the J32 block can be used, and actually the J32 block is better than the J35 because it cools better.

Crankshaft + connecting rods and bearings, etc + custom pistons = complete 3.5L conversion.

The labor alone to do this is easily 12 hours though for someone who knows what they are doing.

Oh and as far as 3.5L vs. Supercharger... The 3.5L can make as much torque as a supercharged stock internal J32, BUT it will fall short by about 30whp.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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so if you do this conversion what exactly will the gains be cause everyone has something different to say. wil it be the same as a sc or better? what did this conversion cost? for those of you who have had this done.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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so if you do this conversion what exactly will the gains be cause everyone has something different to say. wil it be the same as a sc or better? what did this conversion cost? for those of you who have had this done.
like weve said, it will be very comparable to a SC, as for cost, depends on if you are doing the work or having a shop do it. if you were to do the work alot less than a new SC. if a shop was doing it about the same to a little more
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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any1 on AZ with a 3.5 conversion
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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any1 on AZ with a 3.5 conversion

Type R and sgmotoring.

Type R is N/A and sgmotoring is S/C'ed.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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It's by no means a "cheap" modification.

Oh and Rick Case or whatever the dealership is no longer does the swap and they haven't done so in 2+ years.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Oh and Rick Case or whatever the dealership is no longer does the swap and they haven't done so in 2+ years.
this is true.

also, take note guys, it was not just a swap of a few parts. they did some other custom stuff to the motor. the ONLY person i know of that has this is, Type R. he got his from Rick Case Acura.

i THINK sgmotoring only swapped out a few 3.5 parts... no actual 100% custom parts.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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i talked to one of the shop techs over there and they said for the right person he/another guty there could possibly do it (this was a hush hush type of conversation lol)
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 01:42 AM
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yo guys..i am on this site for my friend that has a 99tl..so what do i have..???

a 92' legend coupe 5spd.

Now a guy on my forum swapped in an early 96RL block(cant remember number) and put type two heads and manifolds off the newer legends(93-95) and with a little custom work(one engine mount, etc) he can push 300hp and i don't believe he has custom pistons.This is with a 6spd also in a 4dr.

He did it for the torque not necessarily for the hp rating. He has difficulty with tire slippage even with an LSD on drag radials.

With NOS- 13.9@104mph.

So that is my from a legend owner and i hope it gives u something to go on.
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Hi! 1 years ago, i bought a short block. I have j35a short block from Honda Odyssey 2002 whit 45 000miles and he come in the original wood box. Its very clean and i sale this engine because, i have another project. I want 250$Us for this engine but i ship only in Canada. And if you speak french, i understand very better. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Ti-Jay
Hi! 1 years ago, i bought a short block. I have j35a short block from Honda Odyssey 2002 whit 45 000miles and he come in the original wood box. Its very clean and i sale this engine because, i have another project. I want 250$Us for this engine but i ship only in Canada. And if you speak french, i understand very better. Thanks!

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