Dont know what your talking about

 

LoL True.

Although it would be even more so for the Type-S? Don't the trannys fail more because of the additional HP?

 

no

 

i read that too somewhere like consumer reports or somewhere like that

 

TL-Proper

Wow I need to move to your town, or maybe not...

 

Unless your drag racing or auto-xing every day power has little to do with it. The constant shifting in and out of gears is what causes the wear.

 

A TL-P running with headers, a CAI and a crank pulley can do very low 15's or even better. On a perfect day with everything out of the trunk and 1/4 tank of gas I squeaked in a 14.99. It can be done!

 

Premium.

 

lololol so this is wut the P's for...

 

Haha well that was a nice array of answers...seems "premium" is the most legit one. Yeah the power could be better but coming from my '93 Vigor it was an upgrade. I need to get back into something manual though and the 6-speed conversion just seems to expensive.
I'd love a 3rd-gen 6-speed, but as far as a sporty, luxurious sedan that is manual with some good power, early 2000's BMW 540i 6-speeds are looking pretty tempting right now. The 3rd-gen 6-speeds are mostly still out of my price range. Anyone had a 540?

 

i still dont get how a new car is cheaper than a 6 speed swap

 

i know right ^^^

people say all the time...3-4k is too expensive to go 6 spd.

so im gonna just buy a 3rg gen TL 6 spd or Accord v6 6spd wtf

 

^depends some people get there cars of auctions?

 

it really comes down to people don't want to deal with the work involved with doing the actual swap.

 

your not gonna find a 3rd gen 6 speed at an auction for 3k

 

you can find one for 4.5k if you look good enough.

 

accord that is. the tl's are more expensive, also i never ment good condition it will be screwed inside out lol

 

x2, with normally when they are cheaper they are not in quite perfect condition anymore, quality/niceness never comes cheap

 

my soon-to-be wife's stepfather got a 05 vette with a crunched driver door for 5k from an auction

made me sick

 

yup, u can get cars cheap off insurance auctions. thats the only way i buy cars.

 

do you mean torn (or are the doors steel instead of fiberglass??? )


but how were the A and B pillers, they might have been pulled in or something IDK

 

iono i figure crunched could work for both materials
i never saw the extent of the damage... just saw it after repairs were done.. and now he has a 8-9k vette thats paid off.

 

fiberglass does really crunch it shatters/tears, so the reason for that


but yeah i be looking for more damage around that door, like maybe how does the door itself close and how are the body gaps between the door and body

 

what pisses me off is how insurance companys salvage a car that is barely damaged like mine i just changed trunk lid and tail light. most insurance auctions are rebuilt/salvage title cars.

 

i agree

 

from what im looking at they are going for that price if wrecked. good condition is around 10k for auto. 6 speed is another story

 

Bought mine wrecked for $1800 and $2200 or #2400 after taxes and towing. All it was was a minor fender bender.

 

thats because the insurance auctions are for cars that the insurance company bought from customers.

 

lol that sounded more better in my head

 

TL-PENIS because we got dicked.

I love mine. I like the seats more than the S and don't care for memory settings. Motorwise, I could throw a 3.5 crank in the P block with Higher compression Pistons and show how much of a wuss an S is.

 

^but an s can do teh same and still make more power bc of the heads and intake manifold design

 

That could be changed too. The rest is up to driver.

 

still be cheaper to just start with a S though

 

Yeah that's what it really comes down to, I'm not mechanically-inclined enough to tackle a 6-speed conversion myself, and with 174k on my car, the time and money and replacement of other parts just doesn't seem worth it.
I'd rather just sell it to someone who wants a cheap TL and get a 2004 + 6-speed when I can afford it. Or I've started to see a couple of 03 CL-S 6MT's at pretty reasonable prices. That might be the more realistic option, even though I like the TL body style a little better overall.