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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:49 PM
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so its not as sophisicated as the ESP on the mercedes huh?
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:31 PM
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For those of you who were wondering what exactly VSA does here is what I found out.

Oversteer correction by applying breaks to outside front wheel. When the yaw sensors detect rear end of the car slipping out, the VSA applies breaks to one of the front wheels (the outside one) to counter the spin out. Break force on the outside front wheel helps keep car track the turn.

Understeer correction during acceleration by applying breaks to inside front wheel and reducing engine speed by cutting fuel. Break forcee on inside wheel helps the car make the turn while car is not allowed to accelerate further.

VSA does nothing to the real wheels. VSA should work at any speed.

Some people were wondering what TCS does. TCS works only during low speed to prevent one of the two drive wheels from spin out. It applies breaks to spinning wheel and cuts fuel to slow down the engine. TCS is mainly for take offs in snow, mud, and other slippery surface.
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:38 PM
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Very well put. This should certainly be archived in the FAQs as I've seen it asked from time to time.

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by happy:
Some people were wondering what TCS does. TCS works only during low speed to prevent one of the two drive wheels from spin out. It applies breaks to spinning wheel and cuts fuel to slow down the engine. TCS is mainly for take offs in snow, mud, and other slippery surface.
Whoops! TCS does not cut fuel flow. It only applies brakes (not "breaks" )
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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by daverman:
Whoops! TCS does not cut fuel flow. It only applies brakes (not "breaks" )
Perhaps on older Tl models. But 2002 service manual states "...which applies brake pressure to slow the spinning wheel. At that time, the VSA control unit sends a traction control signal to reduce engine power." So TLs that have VSA as well as TCS will reduce engine power when a drive wheel starts to spin.
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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 04:19 AM
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But the TL-P and 99-01 TL only got TCS, which is just garbage...

I have to say that VSA, ESP, or the DSC are basically the same. Same concept! There difference is the name and the amount of money and time spended for R&D. The theory behind them are the same. But how good are the sensors or is the software well writen are where you see the difference.
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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by happy:
Perhaps on older Tl models. But 2002 service manual states "...which applies brake pressure to slow the spinning wheel. At that time, the VSA control unit sends a traction control signal to reduce engine power." So TLs that have VSA as well as TCS will reduce engine power when a drive wheel starts to spin.
TL's don't have BOTH VSA and TCS, they have one or the other. TCS applies brakes only, VSA applies brakes and cuts fuel. VSA can do everything that TCS can and more.

Yeh, they're all just marketing monikers.
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