UPDATE: The 6MT swap is coming to completion!
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UPDATE: The 6MT swap is coming to completion!
Hey guys. I can almost say the car is completely finished. Starter came in on friday and the ECU was re keyed for my car on Saturday. all the work was completely finished on Monday and the car was fired up. Everything is running, but the flywheel is bent, so we put in an order for a flywheel. The flywheel should be in town on friday, and I should finally be driving my car and taking pictures for all you people who have been waiting for the last 5 weeks then as well. 
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haha! honestly, i dont have pictures. the shop is in gilroy, and i'm in davis (130 miles away). i do have some shots of the car when it was ripped apart for the swap. i'll post them in a sec. this was taken about 2 weeks ago. lol
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heres some pics of the car in progress about 2-3 weeks ago.
cluster already swapped into the tl
shifter
empty engine bay
tranny pics
motor out of bay for the 6mt sensor/crankshaft pulley conversion
cluster already swapped into the tl
shifter
empty engine bay
tranny pics
motor out of bay for the 6mt sensor/crankshaft pulley conversion
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04-29-2008, 03:41 PM
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Cool. Why was the flywheel bent? Didn't you get a new flywheel ? These flywheels are ment to be replaced with clutches. They arent machinable .
04-29-2008, 05:41 PM
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WOW dude congrats!! You, ksuchdeve, and of course Kris got me crappin my pants to do it this summer. Im just prowlin for a sick deal like you got! 
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When you get the chance, let me know who did the job for ya and if you are happy with them. Going to be doing the 6 speed myself real soon. I hope I can save more money by not having to buy motor. How much the whole project run ya?
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You know how i told you there was a crack on my transmission right? well, apparently, it was more then that. the engine was cracked too. bottom side, so im guessing the flywheel was bent due to those cracks. I kept the original clutch and flywheel from that CL however, because it looked really clean with lots and lots of meat left. The car only had 32k on it. I picked up a used one from car-part.com just to get my car going. the flywheel i'm picking up had about 45k on it, so i'm hoping it's still usable. We'll see when it comes home this friday.
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Cool. Why was the flywheel bent? Didn't you get a new flywheel ? These flywheels are ment to be replaced with clutches. They arent machinable .
04-30-2008, 12:39 AM
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How did you fix the cracked trans and engine??????????????? Did you replace the casing$$$$$?
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I got really lucky. In San Jose, there's a junkyard called B-2 dismantling. The guy originally sold the front clip for 1700 and 2000 including the ecu when i asked him about it 3 months ago. then about two months down the road, my tranny died, and i dropped by the junkyard to see if it's still there. apparently, no one wanted it. maybe cause they knew about the crack in the tranny and engine?. I finally had a reason to buy it so i haggled him down to 1600 with the ecu. I paid him cash, and he followed through. Keep in mind, i purchased this whole thing without the engine because i already had the TL-S motor. However, he agreed to let me tow the whole car back to the shop and for me to swap out the sensors on the engine needed for the swap, and in return, i have to swap in my non 6mt sensors to make it even (i'd say its a fair trade 
). took the car home, ripped it apart, found a cracked tranny and called him back. he agreed to pay me back a grand, and i ordered a new tranny for 1100.
basically, i paid 600 dollars for all my sensors, harnesses, dash, shift, and everything else.
among those things, picked up all new engine mounts and the flywheel, and everything came out to about 2100 for parts.
The shop i took my car to belonged to my best friend's brother, and he agreed to do the car for me for 1 grand.
Since some stupid ass trunk in my apartment complex rammed into my driver side fender and chipped off a shitload of paint from my driver side door, i asked him to repair my fender, paint my door, paint my fender, and paint my front bumper because of all the rock chips from long distance driving. since i'm doing the swap with him, he gave me a discount and did the job for me for 500 including paint and labor.
my total swap cost + the dent fix and painjob =
2100
1000
+ 500
3600.
). took the car home, ripped it apart, found a cracked tranny and called him back. he agreed to pay me back a grand, and i ordered a new tranny for 1100. basically, i paid 600 dollars for all my sensors, harnesses, dash, shift, and everything else.
among those things, picked up all new engine mounts and the flywheel, and everything came out to about 2100 for parts.
The shop i took my car to belonged to my best friend's brother, and he agreed to do the car for me for 1 grand.
Since some stupid ass trunk in my apartment complex rammed into my driver side fender and chipped off a shitload of paint from my driver side door, i asked him to repair my fender, paint my door, paint my fender, and paint my front bumper because of all the rock chips from long distance driving. since i'm doing the swap with him, he gave me a discount and did the job for me for 500 including paint and labor.
my total swap cost + the dent fix and painjob =
2100
1000
+ 500
3600.
Originally Posted by ryebreadisme
Wow, where'd you run across the entire clip for 1600......
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Originally Posted by heyitsvu
I got really lucky. In San Jose, there's a junkyard called B-2 dismantling. The guy originally sold the front clip for 1700 and 2000 including the ecu when i asked him about it 3 months ago. then about two months down the road, my tranny died, and i dropped by the junkyard to see if it's still there. apparently, no one wanted it. maybe cause they knew about the crack in the tranny and engine?. I finally had a reason to buy it so i haggled him down to 1600 with the ecu. I paid him cash, and he followed through. Keep in mind, i purchased this whole thing without the engine because i already had the TL-S motor. However, he agreed to let me tow the whole car back to the shop and for me to swap out the sensors on the engine needed for the swap, and in return, i have to swap in my non 6mt sensors to make it even (i'd say its a fair trade ). took the car home, ripped it apart, found a cracked tranny and called him back. he agreed to pay me back a grand, and i ordered a new tranny for 1100.
basically, i paid 600 dollars for all my sensors, harnesses, dash, shift, and everything else.
among those things, picked up all new engine mounts and the flywheel, and everything came out to about 2100 for parts.
The shop i took my car to belonged to my best friend's brother, and he agreed to do the car for me for 1 grand.
Since some stupid ass trunk in my apartment complex rammed into my driver side fender and chipped off a shitload of paint from my driver side door, i asked him to repair my fender, paint my door, paint my fender, and paint my front bumper because of all the rock chips from long distance driving. since i'm doing the swap with him, he gave me a discount and did the job for me for 500 including paint and labor.
my total swap cost + the dent fix and painjob =
2100
1000
+ 500
3600.
). took the car home, ripped it apart, found a cracked tranny and called him back. he agreed to pay me back a grand, and i ordered a new tranny for 1100. basically, i paid 600 dollars for all my sensors, harnesses, dash, shift, and everything else.
among those things, picked up all new engine mounts and the flywheel, and everything came out to about 2100 for parts.
The shop i took my car to belonged to my best friend's brother, and he agreed to do the car for me for 1 grand.
Since some stupid ass trunk in my apartment complex rammed into my driver side fender and chipped off a shitload of paint from my driver side door, i asked him to repair my fender, paint my door, paint my fender, and paint my front bumper because of all the rock chips from long distance driving. since i'm doing the swap with him, he gave me a discount and did the job for me for 500 including paint and labor.
my total swap cost + the dent fix and painjob =
2100
1000
+ 500
3600.
That is a steal considering labor already in. BTW, what did you start with, your description says ur are a CL-S 6spd + 2 doors so either ur a TL-P or TL-S from the start. My guess is TL-P since you said you bought a motor. I'm trying to figure out how much I really need aside from the tranny, harness, ecu + keys.
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He doesn't do normal jobs like everyone else. I'm his bro's best friend so he took me in. The shop is in San Martin (gilroy). He basically purchases salvaged cars, fixes it up, and sells it for profit. thats 99% of his revenue. the other 1% is from special projects like mine and close others. He said the thing he hated the most about doing my tranny swap is the electrical system. it's a one of a kind job. He's done tranny swaps and motor swaps before, but never has he mated a CL 6mt to a Tl. In fact, when i told him it was possible, he didn't even believe me! i showed him (kris) fsttyms1's conversion and notes and got kris to answer a buncha questions for me. Then he finally agreed to do it. hahah
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When you get the chance, let me know who did the job for ya and if you are happy with them. Going to be doing the 6 speed myself real soon. I hope I can save more money by not having to buy motor. How much the whole project run ya?
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Nope, I have an 03 TL-S. lol. You know you like my description 
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That is a steal considering labor already in. BTW, what did you start with, your description says ur are a CL-S 6spd + 2 doors so either ur a TL-P or TL-S from the start. My guess is TL-P since you said you bought a motor. I'm trying to figure out how much I really need aside from the tranny, harness, ecu + keys.
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Sometimes, if you're nice to the people at the dealership, they'll cut you a deal on rekeying your ECU. Sometimes they might even do it free. I didn't have to deal with that because the mechanic at the shop knows people who do ECU reprogramming, so they came to us and rekeyed the car for us. Originally i dropped by Gavilan (gilroy) Honda. I was really nice to them, and I had a chat with the mechanics. The mechanic told me that if I can tow my car to the dealer, they'll do it for me for free. When i went back to talk to my mechanic, he told me don't trip, hes got it taken care of.
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We shall see how this goes. Tranny is slipping again and if it holds out 2 more years I might just get a new car and use money on that or its mods. If earlier, I don't intend to burn 20k+ so I'll do the swap.
I'd love to see ur car sometime man, just to admire stick since that was what I learned to drive on. I have been bored to tears on an auto for 5 years, love the car but yeah, left leg is lonesome. + i want the LSD to squeeze more HP to the wheels.
I'd love to see ur car sometime man, just to admire stick since that was what I learned to drive on. I have been bored to tears on an auto for 5 years, love the car but yeah, left leg is lonesome. + i want the LSD to squeeze more HP to the wheels.
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I'd say go with the swap. It's such a nice car man. My dream car since i was 16 when the 99 tl came out. I was always a fan of the acura legend, and when they brought the 2nd gen tl to life, i thought i was dreaming. 
look at the similarity of the two cars. Now i get the best of both worlds. My favorite car, mated to a 6mt from a CL. My dreams have come true.
My pop's never approved of me getting a stick. Now he has no say in it. haha
look at the similarity of the two cars. Now i get the best of both worlds. My favorite car, mated to a 6mt from a CL. My dreams have come true. My pop's never approved of me getting a stick. Now he has no say in it. haha
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Of course... we both started in the same boat (no bun intended ) in that we loved the legend. I only liked the 4 door one too so I guess that's why I'm a 4 door fanatic. Plus the ultimate sedan for me is the E39 M5 but it was way too expenive.
Yeah the swap will come I think, money isn't a problem these days after college... it's TIME... I had hella time in College/HS but no money, now money but no TIME... so gay. Can you compile a list of the parts you got for me if it isn't too much trouble. I better start gathering used parts sometime soon before it does break and I'm screwed with $5000 in new parts everything wishing I went early shopping. If you can't all good, it was a big list I made but I can't confirm exactly what the differences are between the TL-P and TL-S requirements for 6speed swap.
) in that we loved the legend. I only liked the 4 door one too so I guess that's why I'm a 4 door fanatic. Plus the ultimate sedan for me is the E39 M5 but it was way too expenive. Yeah the swap will come I think, money isn't a problem these days after college... it's TIME... I had hella time in College/HS but no money, now money but no TIME... so gay. Can you compile a list of the parts you got for me if it isn't too much trouble. I better start gathering used parts sometime soon before it does break and I'm screwed with $5000 in new parts everything wishing I went early shopping. If you can't all good, it was a big list I made but I can't confirm exactly what the differences are between the TL-P and TL-S requirements for 6speed swap.
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As soon as friday hits and i pick up my car, I'll get you a listing of what i used. Its pretty much the same list that Kris (fsttyms1) has sticked onto the front page of this forum. used the CL's harness and spliced into the wiring to make the rear doors work. I'll verify all the information you need when i talk to my mechanic this weekend.
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Originally Posted by heyitsvu
As soon as friday hits and i pick up my car, I'll get you a listing of what i used. Its pretty much the same list that Kris (fsttyms1) has sticked onto the front page of this forum. used the CL's harness and spliced into the wiring to make the rear doors work. I'll verify all the information you need when i talk to my mechanic this weekend.
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Put a tarp over it or roll the windows up on that bad boy! Damn son!
How did you fix the cracked trans and engine??????????????? Did you replace the casing$$$$$?
How did you fix the cracked trans and engine??????????????? Did you replace the casing$$$$$?
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So the day begins..... I can't wait to see my car. I might not make it home in time to pick up my car tomorrow, so pictures will be up on Saturday. Cisko, I will prove you wrong and shame you!