Undocumented Nav Feature!
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Undocumented Nav Feature!
I read thru all the literature when I got my car, but just discovered something which I don't think is in the manual. When the screen which presents the "shutdown" option is being displayed, you can touch the clock time to switch between a large and small (default) time on the display. This mode is remembered and the large display looks kind of neat when the unit is simply operating in a clock display mode. Give it a try!
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That feature is in the manual. That's how I was able to figure it out before this post.
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You're right, edgalang, it's in there! When I stumbled across it, I went back and reread the clock section and I couldn't find it, but it's mentioned in a section up front where it describes the 'blank screen'.
Hey, did you know that the software doesn't recognize Daylight Savings Time like most PCs now a days do? Press a different time zone and it'll be off by an hour.
Hey, did you know that the software doesn't recognize Daylight Savings Time like most PCs now a days do? Press a different time zone and it'll be off by an hour.
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Want some real undocumented stuff on the NAVI to play with? (NOTE: you could screw it up if you change some of these settings but it's neat to just view.)
After pressing OK on the disclaimer screen, Press and Hold, simultaniously, the MENU, MAP/GUIDE and CANCEL buttons. Hold all 3 buttons for about 5 seconds.
The screen changes to a diagnostic mode with lots of menus and things to change.
Some of the things are SYSTEM LINK, MONITOR CHECK, UNIT CHECK, TIRE-CALIBRATE and YAW RATE.
MONITOR CHECK lets you adjust the colors of the navi monitor with test patterns and such and check the hard button switches and touch sensitivity of the screen (but not adjust the sensitivity.)
UNIT CHECK has some cool things like:
GPS--which shows, graphically, how many satelites your car is "seeing."
NAVI ECU is pretty cool and shows the status of things connected to the navi like the A/C and other componets.
SYSTEM HISTORY shows some sort of print-out like text that I don't understand.
CAR STATUS I believe shows the temperature of certain components (I think).
FORCE DOWNLOAD I didn't touch but sounds dangerous as does BACKUP CLEAR.
Have fun but don't change anything!
After pressing OK on the disclaimer screen, Press and Hold, simultaniously, the MENU, MAP/GUIDE and CANCEL buttons. Hold all 3 buttons for about 5 seconds.
The screen changes to a diagnostic mode with lots of menus and things to change.
Some of the things are SYSTEM LINK, MONITOR CHECK, UNIT CHECK, TIRE-CALIBRATE and YAW RATE.
MONITOR CHECK lets you adjust the colors of the navi monitor with test patterns and such and check the hard button switches and touch sensitivity of the screen (but not adjust the sensitivity.)
UNIT CHECK has some cool things like:
GPS--which shows, graphically, how many satelites your car is "seeing."
NAVI ECU is pretty cool and shows the status of things connected to the navi like the A/C and other componets.
SYSTEM HISTORY shows some sort of print-out like text that I don't understand.
CAR STATUS I believe shows the temperature of certain components (I think).
FORCE DOWNLOAD I didn't touch but sounds dangerous as does BACKUP CLEAR.
Have fun but don't change anything!
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Now that I never saw in the books. Good job.
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Originally posted by davest:
Want some real undocumented stuff on the NAVI to play with? (NOTE: you could screw it up if you change some of these settings but it's neat to just view.)
Want some real undocumented stuff on the NAVI to play with? (NOTE: you could screw it up if you change some of these settings but it's neat to just view.)
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That's the beauty of this forum. All of you car genius' out there discovering new things about our car. This is truly the TL-S Underground of the car world.
Good work!
Any other adventurers out there?
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Good work!
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Two more "non-techie" features that might have been posted here already:
1.Touch the red triangle and all the stats on your current position is displayed.
2.You can hold down the joystick until the backlight adjusts bright or dim.
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1.Touch the red triangle and all the stats on your current position is displayed.
2.You can hold down the joystick until the backlight adjusts bright or dim.
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Originally posted by kensteele:
Two more "non-techie" features that might have been posted here already:
1.Touch the red triangle and all the stats on your current position is displayed.
2.You can hold down the joystick until the backlight adjusts bright or dim.
Two more "non-techie" features that might have been posted here already:
1.Touch the red triangle and all the stats on your current position is displayed.
2.You can hold down the joystick until the backlight adjusts bright or dim.
I especially like the split-screen display (turn prompting on the left, map on the right), but the Navi seems to want to go into full-screen prompting by default each time I enter a destination. Is there any way to set the split screen as the default?
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This is why you guys with TL Type-S version should read the TL fourum. I rememember posting about the Nav & Clock more than a few times. I found out about this back in 99 on my 2000 TL Navi. I guess I should say my 10yr old nephew found out about this playing with the Nav.
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Originally posted by kensteele:
Two more "non-techie" features that might have been posted here already:
1.Touch the red triangle and all the stats on your current position is displayed.
2.You can hold down the joystick until the backlight adjusts bright or dim.
Two more "non-techie" features that might have been posted here already:
1.Touch the red triangle and all the stats on your current position is displayed.
2.You can hold down the joystick until the backlight adjusts bright or dim.
This may be needed since the NAV by default does not indicate the names of remote streets on the screen.
After scrolling to other screens, if you want to return back to your previous position, click on MAP/Guide once again...
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Originally posted by davest:
Want some real undocumented stuff on the NAVI to play with? ....
Want some real undocumented stuff on the NAVI to play with? ....
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Hmmmm...my version is 2.03. Perhaps they took it out?? Remember though, you must press the 3 buttons AFTER you press OK on the disclaimer screen otherwise it won't work. But perhaps they did remove/change it.
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I just removed the DVD from the drive altogether and it still worked so the DVD version doesn't matter. However, with the DVD removed the procedure is a little different.
With the DVD ejected, press and HOLD the same 3 buttons for about 5 seconds while viewing the "Navigation door is open or no DVD installed" message is displayed.
Diagnostic Mode screen comes right up.
With the DVD ejected, press and HOLD the same 3 buttons for about 5 seconds while viewing the "Navigation door is open or no DVD installed" message is displayed.
Diagnostic Mode screen comes right up.
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davest -- Can you check your software/database versions? Seems that the current GPS being delivered doesn't have this backdoor entry mode. My versions are:
DB - ADB0720 & SW - 2.04
Thanx.
davest -- Can you check your software/database versions? Seems that the current GPS being delivered doesn't have this backdoor entry mode. My versions are:
DB - ADB0720 & SW - 2.04
Thanx.
Who knows, could be that they changed it.
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I got it to work, but a different way. I touched Setup on the lower screen, then pressed the 3 buttons and the diagnostic screen came up. I programmed mine to launch missles at Russia - now all I need are some missles!
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cool...never knew that. thanx
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davest -- Can you check your software/database versions? Seems that the current GPS being delivered doesn't have this backdoor entry mode. My versions are:
DB - ADB0720 & SW - 2.04
Thanx.
DB - ADB0720 & SW - 2.04
Thanx.
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... but then again, that's because it knows nothing about the date!
... but then again, that's because it knows nothing about the date!
Acura could very easily have made our clocks update to DST, but I guess they didn't.
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Originally posted by DavidT:
if I first press Menu (and keep it pressed), then Map/Guide (again, keeping BOTH pressed), and finally Cancel, so all three are then pressed down, it worked.
if I first press Menu (and keep it pressed), then Map/Guide (again, keeping BOTH pressed), and finally Cancel, so all three are then pressed down, it worked.
And, there's even a display with the date on it!
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Originally posted by bebber:
It does know the date, but it just doesn't display it. The GPS computer uses the date and time to estimate the location of the satellites and thereby acquire a position fix in a shorter time when you start up the car.
Acura could very easily have made our clocks update to DST, but I guess they didn't.
It does know the date, but it just doesn't display it. The GPS computer uses the date and time to estimate the location of the satellites and thereby acquire a position fix in a shorter time when you start up the car.
Acura could very easily have made our clocks update to DST, but I guess they didn't.
Let say your house is half in Arizona and the other half in California. Now, let's say the dividing line for CA and AZ is in the middle of your driveway. Would you really want the NAVI changing your time based on where your parked (this is assuming that the driveway is wider than the >50 foot at-best accuracy of the commercial band signal).
Now, let's say your driving around the "area", would you like the car to switch times depending on "political" decisions?
The point I'm making is, it would be nuts to have the clock display bouncing all over the place depending on the GPS dithering and being on a boundary of two regions with different daylight time or time boundaries.
(And yes, they could have made the unit auto figure the DST, but...)
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Plus as you guys probably know, DST is not observed in Arizona, so what happens when you cross that line and the time is not suppose to change?
Bottom line is YOU are responsible for changing the time. Why? Because if Acura build in some automatic, non-changeable process and that process changes over the next few year, you're gonna think the Acura people are pretty stupid for automatically changing your clock to the wrong time.
BTW, most all GPS devices have this problem. Even your digital phones sometimes. You can be standing in Arizona and your phone could be accessing a tower located in California. Wrong time on the display.
DST is stupid IMO and it's going to go away altogether one day [in our lifetime].
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Bottom line is YOU are responsible for changing the time. Why? Because if Acura build in some automatic, non-changeable process and that process changes over the next few year, you're gonna think the Acura people are pretty stupid for automatically changing your clock to the wrong time.
BTW, most all GPS devices have this problem. Even your digital phones sometimes. You can be standing in Arizona and your phone could be accessing a tower located in California. Wrong time on the display.
DST is stupid IMO and it's going to go away altogether one day [in our lifetime].
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