AcuraTL2000

Where can i find Type S Tb/Cams? I live in houston, do i need to locate a junk yard? or does the dealership sell it, if so how much? Has anyone successfully done the type s tb and cam replacement on a tl-p?

yunginTL

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ChucksCL-S

It has been done but the problem is (or so I've heard) that the ECU would need to be tuned to take advantage of the additional air flow. The bigger TB has not yet really been proven to be a power adder, although I wish it was. What us type-P guys need to do is to find a whole package that works: intake, TB, Type-S manifold with IMRC wired to activate at thr right time, we could call this a stage 1 Intake upgrade. Stage 2 would be all the above plus the Type-S cams. Ideas anyone? With headers and the UR crank pulley we would be making some nice HP numbers.

Tunaboy

Well I have Type-S cams and TB. It's just a matter of getting around to installing them. I will do a before and after dyno of the TB probably by the end of the month of mid march.

etxxz

^^ when'd you get the -S camshafts in? i got mine but from delray acura but returned em after 'cause of what i was gonna cost me to put em in.

AcuraTL2000

well i have a vafc to adjust the a/f ration so thats not a problem. the problem is finding them. i also heard that since we have tcs instead of vsa we have to change something or do something to make it work? Dyno's would help alot in a decision, its alot of work.

etxxz

i put up a thread back when i got my -S cams, and there's a link to a place where you can get new cams for $260shipped from Delray Acura (very good price btw) i got mine for around 220 because one of the employees is a family friend.

1nicetl

I can get anyone brand new Type-S cams from the dealer for $250 shipped.

fsttyms1

thats not all teh tuning you would need. the cams are profiled to help give more power at a higher rpm ( in conjunction) with the type-s intake manifold) in order to get teh most out of that set up you would need to find out how to get your redline raised. and no one makes any thing to do that for our cars

Tunaboy

Yea well I have had the cams for a good 3 months now and just never have gotten around for installation. I've gotten a couple quotes one was $800 which there's no way. The other was $400. You will probably see these on the black market sooner or later. Probably going to put a turbo together before summer.

AcuraTL2000

it would be way too expensive to get the whole manifold, so do you think its worth the money to get S cams?

ou sig

If you want power, get headers, the pulley, CAI or NOS - much more power for your money

etxxz

-S cams will definetly do a difference in our cars (10-15whp...maybe 20) but i'm convinced most of the -s power comes from the higher compression....not timing

We could probably get some forged pistons and raise compression by a full point->pt+1/2 and get as much power if not more than a cam swap for ~ prob less than what the cam swap would end up costing.

OR do it the ghetto way, shave some metal of the block (head? idk)



btw* i dont like NOS, sux 'cause you're limited to WOT use. with refills and stuff, its cheaper to mod unless you have a huge shot. There's a guy in my area (friend of my friend) who has a 10lbs bottle with a 120shot on a stock 96 civic EX

etxxz

i'm convinced the -S gets most of its power from the higher compression....not so much timing.

get some forged pistons and raise comp by a full point->pt. 1/2 and get as much power if not more than a cam swap for ~ same if not less that what a cam swap will end up costing.

OR shave some metal of the head (block, idk)


btw* NOS sux 'cause your limited to WOT use....there's a girl @ fau (my college) with 120shot on a otherwise stock 96 civic EX!!

ou sig

I never said NOS was great...its only good for drag times, but why put Type S cams and TB on when it really wont do anything w/o extensive tuning and "hidden costs". Like I have said, our engine wasnt made to be a tuner, but it will respond well to most simple bolt ons like other engines.

AcuraTL2000

im not gonna mess with nos, its a hassle refilling/engine wear etc. i guess its time to look for some S cams and find someone to help me install since i dont wanna ditch out the big bux for someone to install. the install isnt too bad.

ou sig

you arent reading what we are saying...you cant just put the cams in and expect a difference. it will take lots of tuning and other parts to let the engine take advantage of the slightly larger type s cam lobes - not worth it, but if you think it is, have fun.

AcuraTL2000

i am reading what you're saying, but it goes step by step, one thing at a time until im satisfied. its pretty much like getting headers w/o exhaust, mine as well get the exhaust to reach the full potential of the exhaust system.

fsttyms1

but here is the problem. we cant really tune what needs to be tuned for the cams to get full potential. your money could be better spent else where

55M2G7L

well let us know what happens, ive been thinking about doing these mods but not to sure if it will show real power

ou sig

thats exactly what I was saying, you can bolt on headers and exhaust and get the full potential w/o tuning the car...put in new cams = lots of tuning and a bag of unknowns

55M2G7L

yea but if you have headers, intake exhuaust and pulley, people look at this as if it were the next mod, i mean there not much else

AcuraTL2000

We'll, i think imma still do it ne way, i jus need some help/instructions with someone that already has done the mod. thanx everyone tho

Lucky37

Bore TB

AcuraTL2000

oh yea, where can i get it bored out?

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

It's like this....if you have to ask, you're probably out of your league.

The issue is you need someone right there to tune it. You can't install them in your driveway and expect to be able to drive around looking for a tuner.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Boring out the TB will bring you minimal gains unless you port match the entire intake tract.

It's quite possible that you will make airflow worse since you'll have a narrow CAI with a bored TB back to a smaller intake manifold. Airflow is going to be fubar.

Lucky37

Where can i get the TB bored and intake matched? ported?

AcuraTL2000

hrmmm...can a well a vafc will help that out but i know wut u mean. who can bore it out though.