Type S/3.5 engine conversion!!!

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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 01:18 PM
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Type S/3.5 engine conversion!!!

Okay, I went to my Acura dealer and asked for the price of Type-S piston, Intake manifold, and camshaft. It's around CA$2350 without installation, and the custom wiring and all that.

Honestly I don't think that's worth it. But I am just wondering if anybody knows anything about the 3.5 conversion on the CL. Yes, I know there's a search funtion, but...

What I need to know is what parts do I need for the 3.5 conversion? THANKS SO MUCH in advance.

I ordered the 2002 cupholder insert as well CA$8, not a bad deal I say...
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 01:34 PM
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I would just save that kink of $$ towards to different MOD.....
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 01:41 PM
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Well, the problem is that I want to keep my TL while I am in college, cuz I will be driving between my college and Toronto almost every weekend. That's about 5 hours back and forth...

If I am getting another car, it will be a sports car, or at least very sporty compact. Which is not the car that I want to have while I am still in college.

So, I want to keep the TL in the mean time, and boost up the power a bit. The header won't give me what I want. I want about 50hp-80hp increase.

So, it's either the SC kit, or engine porting... bababa...

p.s. I like turbo way better then SC. JMBO...
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 01:52 PM
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Get yourself straight. Are you talking about a 99-01 TL to a Type S engine conversion (225hp to 260hp) 4speed 99' might be lest like 250hp or are you talking about a Type S to a 3.5 type S engine conversion (260hp to 315hp). Both are possible. Can you tell us what you want.
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by SL1200MK4


p.s. I like turbo way better then SC. JMBO...
I don't like turbo at all. Is either SC or Twin turbo.
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 02:08 PM
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The 3.5 MDX and 3.2 CL/TL share the same engine block and cylinder head castings. The additional displacement comes from an increase in stroke (86.0mm vs. 93.0mm). The rod/main journals are the same diameter, and since the bore is the same both engines use the same piston rings. Here are the parts required for the conversion:

MDX crankshaft
MDX crankshaft thrust washers
MDX connecting rods (rod kit includes bearings)
MDX pistons
MDX piston pins
MDX timing belt drive gear
piston ring set
main bearing set
engine gasket set
coolant/oil/oil filter/sealant

Installing all of the MDX parts into your block will give you a displacement of 3.5 liters, and 10.0:1 compression. For those looking for higher compression, you can have pistons made by Arias, Venolia, Ross, or JE for $400-$500.

Installing all of these parts is very labor-intensive. It would be cheaper in parts and labor to have the complete MDX shortblock installed.

As for the Type-S components, it would be no additional labor to install the intake at this time. There would be some extra time required to install the Type-S cams, but you'll only pay for one set of valve cover gaskets and cam seals
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Bitium
Get yourself straight. Are you talking about a 99-01 TL to a Type S engine conversion (225hp to 260hp) 4speed 99' might be lest like 250hp or are you talking about a Type S to a 3.5 type S engine conversion (260hp to 315hp). Both are possible. Can you tell us what you want.
Okay, I got a 2000 TL which is 225hp, and want to make about 275hp to 300hp... at the crank that is...
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 02:16 PM
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I don't like turbo at all. Is either SC or Twin turbo.
Well, depends on the what kinda engine we are talking about... I had go with TT with our TL. But if it's a Vette or Viper, I had just stick with a single turbo. I mean if you got a big engine then you can try to get more boost while live with a slight turbo lag...

But yes, I love TT a lot....
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by SSMAN66
The 3.5 MDX and 3.2 CL/TL share the same engine block and cylinder head castings. The additional displacement comes from an increase in stroke (86.0mm vs. 93.0mm). The rod/main journals are the same diameter, and since the bore is the same both engines use the same piston rings. Here are the parts required for the conversion:

MDX crankshaft
MDX crankshaft thrust washers
MDX connecting rods (rod kit includes bearings)
MDX pistons
MDX piston pins
MDX timing belt drive gear
piston ring set
main bearing set
engine gasket set
coolant/oil/oil filter/sealant

Installing all of the MDX parts into your block will give you a displacement of 3.5 liters, and 10.0:1 compression. For those looking for higher compression, you can have pistons made by Arias, Venolia, Ross, or JE for $400-$500.

Installing all of these parts is very labor-intensive. It would be cheaper in parts and labor to have the complete MDX shortblock installed.

As for the Type-S components, it would be no additional labor to install the intake at this time. There would be some extra time required to install the Type-S cams, but you'll only pay for one set of valve cover gaskets and cam seals
Thanks SO MUCH for the info... I have no problem finding the "right" guy to do the install for me on the engine parts. But I have no idea what I can do with the ECU and custom wiring. Well, I will look into that for sure...

I guess if I am gonna do it, then I might as well go with the MDX conversion, since it will give me more boost in power...
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 02:32 PM
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Hey SL1200MK4,

You might want to call Rick Case Acura down in Florida, 954-587-1111. They are the ones that do the conversion. Ask for Doug. He's the resident expert.

BTW, I rode in the 3.5CL TypeS. OMFG it has so much torque it whips your head back. And Doug claimed that they hadn't really tuned it yet.

http://www.rickcaseacura.com
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 02:44 PM
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Rick Case is also charging $4000-$5000 for the conversion, and that doesn't include the Type-S parts needed for the hp level desired. List price on the MDX shortblock is $1218. If you're sharp, the shortblock can be swapped in about 15 hours.

As for the wiring, there are 14 harnesses on the TL. Only 5 of them are different on a Type-S. Most can be easily modified, or you can replace all of them with Type-S harnesses for about $700. Email me if you need the part #'s.
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Old Jul 6, 2001 | 04:21 PM
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Thanks a lot guys!!!

I have am asking different shops for the installation...

Some say that I don't have to worry about the harnesss. All I need is a chip that will modify the fuel injection and such...

But I will ask around and what others say as well...

Of course to do this, I will also need to upgrade my brake, suspension, which is $$$$$$$
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 12:25 AM
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Is there any other place in the east that does the conversions?

And how much are the parts req. for a 3.2 TL to 3.5 S conversion?
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