etxxz

Other than the very notable HP differences of stats, what does the TL-S have that the TLP doesnt? im thinking about supping my engine madly or buy new engine...watever comes cheaper
i have 80K miles on mine.


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'99TL
NAV
Mesh grill
WW body kit
OEM spoiler
stock performance...

edgalang

Hmmm...just so that we don't waste any time, first tell us what your budget is. THEN we can tell you what you can/cannot do. I'm sorry to generalize, but by the content and style of your post, I doubt this thread would be taken seriously.

fsttyms1

just do the 3.5 conversion

etxxz

my budget is enogh... I am less likely to buy an engine though since i have a lotta life left in mine. I just want to know what gives the TL-S **40** more ponies than mine with the same displacement. I know little about this matter but enoght to carry out the proyect.

Edit- putting the 3.5 engine is really expensive...i cant bend over and have $100 bills puffin out my ***...can the mdx's engine even fit into our engine bay? hehe

fsttyms1

why would 100 bills be puffin out your ***???? the 3.5 conversion can be done with our 3.2 block and it makes alot more HP than the type-s.

the intake is the main difference, along with higher compression

etxxz

No doubt it produces more hp and lot more torque than type S, whats the cost?....dud im a college student, i cant puff the bills.

it was a joke...aarg...im spanish, im allowed to make bad translated jokes...

gnight, im ill be back saturday.

crazym0nkey

Um.....if you got the money......might as well trade in for a TL-S

badazzTL

with the 3.5 conversion, what all do you replace? the head and all the internals? from what i read this is all you replace but what about the bottom end? a 3.5 head would match up with a 3.2 bottom? what about the tranny? would it have to be 4 speed and would there still be vtec?

oshiet

I'm no expert, but I'd assume the stroke is greater on the 3.5L engine. Different crankshaft, rods, and pistons would be needed assuming the heads are identicle.

I should swap the 3.5L out of my Honda Pilot into my 99 TL, and make it AWD.

BIG_KOUT

nobody has answered the real question topic, I'm wondering the differences too

pmptx

Higher compression and diff cams are all I know of , but there are some wizards out there on the sight.
Stick to the topic you asked about, and dump the rest of the comments, and you will find people will be willing to help you out big time.

ResidualFreedom

I thinnk we should all read this post again -


It started out a " the difference between TL-p and TL-s"
Then it changed to MODIFY the CURRENT engine (3.2) to get a 3.5L result, Not to swap a TL with a Pilot engine, come on people!

Now what I've tried to put together with this wide variety topicis that it sounds like component swapping on the TL-p will get you more HP than a stock TL-s.

If that is true would someone please post the engine changes needed to make a stock TL-p faster than a stock TL-s. Someone has mentioned above that is is called a "3.5L Conversion" . I would also like to ask the same question as BadazzTL ( check above ) regarding v-tec, ect..

dark inspire

jus buy an NSX ! LOL

edgalang

I guess it wasn't

The type of responses you're getting is exactly what I was expecting.

The amount of money you would spend trying to match a type-S, you could of gotten a 2002 used type-S instead...with the money NOT modding + your 99 trade-in.

etxxz

ok, then its cheaper to trade, thanks. Now, anyone know the differences between the 2 engines?

`ill*tl

Higher compression rate..different intake manifold..

Professor

The S has a different cam (leading to a different compression) and manifold. Also the cylinder walls are lined with a higher temp resistant alloy. In other words, I think your dashboard will light-up like a Christmas tree if you start bolting on type S parts, and you gas mileage and HP will go down.

If you want to blister a S, then it's like modifying any other car (even a small block Chevy)... do you want top-end or off-the line? Personally give me alot of torque and some additional HP. 1) Overhaul to increase the bore and stroke to about a 3.7 liters (you can get rings, pistons and such from a racing manufacturer, 2) Change the cam to suite your desired "power-run." (with this change the car may sound and run terrible at low rpm's), 3) throw the nitrous to it as well as headers, 4) rework the gear ratio to get more power to the road (i.e., manual 3 speed), and 5)a crapload of fabrication. Sounds a little like a funny car.

With that said, if you can reduce the overall weight of you car, you'll be competitive.

Now to let you in a little secret: go to an independent technician and have a s and p dyno'ed at the wheels after they are hot and have been running for a while. The 40 difference goes away fast.

If you decide to pull your current engine, let me know. I'd be interesting in buying it with only 80 miles... I'm currently building an outboard boat.

fsttyms1

here is the 3.5 break down. now remember this guy used the 3.5 block because he destroyed his engine, but you can use the 3.2 block

http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...184466&page=26

fla-tls

Higher flowing air filter setup, wider throttle body, different intake, different intake valves, different head (to account for higher compression ratio), different block, different camshaft, different exhaust, different computer programming for shift points, firmness, and Air/Fuel mix...

Oh - and the cool Type S shift knob! (oh wait - that's not part of the engine )

etxxz

nice to know its not worth it supping my engine rather than just getting a new one. I dont have time to change engines so im just going to stay where i am, save some money and buy a new car in a couple of years. And since pretty much everything is different, i'll just go with the classic upgrades.

Later all, ill be spending the next 2 weeks in Ft. Lauderdale and South beach since its SPRING BREAK time! from which i am 20 and 45 minutes away respectively!!!

i hope this post helped whoever was thinking about this, it helped me decide on what NOT to do hehe.