NSX4dr

I've been thinking about getting rid of the TL. I know I know.......but I want something faster and the 6speed TL won't be out for some time......Help me out guys what do you think?
I'm thinking about getting a new yellow S2000 w/black leather..........any comments?

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PhiTL

The S2K is definately an awesome car. A friend of mine has the exact same car that you are considering. All I can say is that if you want a good handling car and fun to drive, the S2k would suit you nicely. Anyhow, I have some pictures of his car at Summit Point raceway that might wet your taste buds. Dont mind the mud, for that he a little incident.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...a=12757367&f=0

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Inspire32V

My family would kill me if I got rid of the four doors and 5 passenger seating but if I had the choice like you, I'd do it in a heartbeat! S2K is my dream machine! BADASS Roadster!

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socal28

They are two very different cars! Everything is opposite! From one being rear-wheel drive and the other front-wheel drive to digital to analog gauges! Everything you're use to on the TL is opposite on the S2000.
It took me awhile to get use to the S2000. Now I love it!
Personally, I'd wait for the 2002 models. They are going to a have blue color option and rumors of glass back!

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1999 Dark Emerald Pearl TL w/ nav
Factory underbody kit and rear spoiler.
Comptech springs, sways, headers and exhaust.
18x7.5 +48 5Zigen Heidfeld wheels with 225/40ZR18 Nitto NT-555 tires.
Inspire Tail-lights with Polarg M-23 P8711R signal bulbs.
DEI Viper 550ESP Alarm
Pics of my TL
Pics of my S2000

Edub-TL

YES YES YES!!!! GET IT!!

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Vin says 2001, but it's really a 2000 with an upgraded cupholder!!

SL1200MK4

Depends on the way you drive. S2000 is a very unique car. You need to keep the VETC active or else the car is gonna feel like a Civic. If you want to do fast 1/4 or 0-60. You have to dump the clutch HARD!!!

A friend on mine have the S2000. I have to say that the car is AMAZING on the track. But not so exciting for normal city driving. Because you don't feel the torque, unlike the Vette that push you back everytime you floor it. I am not saying that the S2000 is slow, it's just that it's fast in a different way!

Oh, and I doubt the safety of the S2000 as few fatal accidents happened in HK & Japan...etc.

Guest

This is valid if you are comparing the car against a vette, etc. But what if you don't care to have detroit iron, or care about who you have to race? I believe, compared to a Civic any other street cars out there, that the torque to weight ratio is plenty spirited for everyday driving, and you can do a jekyl/hide by just letting the revvs go up into the right side.

I see plenty of bald old men who drive their Vettes, etc. below the speed limit just to be in your way and get noticed. Not me, give me clear road or track and let me have my own fun! Sure if they want, they can punch it, melt tires, and be pushed back in the seat. But I can drive with a grin on my face all day and not worry about working off testosterone like that.

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Had 2000 3.2TL... Realized I like smaller cars.

Now I have:
2001 Civic EX Coupe, Black, Auto... wife uses mostly. Getting 36 MPG overall.
Pictures
1999 CR-V EX 4WD Auto White... bad weather car, hauls stuff including bicycle.
1992 MR-2 5-Speed T-Tops 2.2L, Greddy SP S/S Exhaust... sunny-day car.


Next up: MR2 gets sacrificed to make garage
space for a Yellow S2000!!!!

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Shoofin

I wouldn't trade the TL to get an S2000, i'd get the S2000 in addition.... two different cars, IMO..
Ed

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Gomez

You should drive the S2000 before you get set on it - lots less torque than the TL.

Sure, it'll do 0-60 in about 5 1/2 seconds. However, in a recent road test I read the drivers did a second comparison run shifting not at redline but at 7,000 RPM instead. The result? 0-60 time of over 10 seconds. So, to get the power and performance out of it, "you gotta drive it like you just stole it."

I say get a Z3 3.0 or perhaps a used M Roadster!

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Guest

I would highly recommend it if it fits your lifestyle (zip luggage space, no room to wiggle, etc.) Do like I plan, keep it in the garage for sunny days, something else for typical duty.

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Had 2000 3.2TL... Realized I like smaller cars.

Now I have:
2001 Civic EX Coupe, Black, Auto... wife uses mostly. Getting 36 MPG overall.
Pictures
1999 CR-V EX 4WD Auto White... bad weather car, hauls stuff including bicycle.
1992 MR-2 5-Speed T-Tops 2.2L, Greddy SP S/S Exhaust... sunny-day car.


Next up: MR2 gets sacrificed to make garage
space for a Yellow S2000!!!!

TommyBoiSxty9

JUST NO YELLOW!!

Rice1304

Yeah but why would you want to shift at 7k instead of 8.9k? That's like testing a 360 and saying that it's crappy because it does 0-60 quite slower when you shift at 5k.

Pimpin_TL

Z3 or M ROADSTER???


NSXnext: man, you missed out be a couple weeks. Some guy was selling his supercharged S2k on ebay... that would be one FAST car... It depends tho, if you don't mind cramped area, don't need the space, luxury, etc, get the S2k if thats what you want.. But I'm positive of one thing, you'll miss the luxury, comfort of the TL day to day driving. I think the S2k makes a very fine second or weekend car, but i don't see many ppl using it as a daily driver, although i'm sure you could, its still a honda, reliable, good gas mileage, etc. if you want to go for pure sport, get it and supercharge it!Looking at your sig, you seem to be a speed freak.. if so, the TL is not a solution, Type S or not (Sorry guys), its not a race car, and its quite heavy. If you really wanna go crazy, may i suggest getting a used Supra Turbo, and upgrading it with blitz turbo ?

bobatimez

no trade, just add on or nothing. and wait for 2002.

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Some Said, "TL Type S," Soon They Will Say, "Wannabe TL-S." Laguna METALLIC, Navi, Side Cuts, Tint All Around, Interior Footwell Lighting, Eibach ProKit, PIAA 1700x Fogs custom cut into side holes, Akimoto Intake, Inspire Tails, 17" Type-S Rims with 215/45/17 Bridgestone Potenza RE730's, Visor, Wood Shifter, Comptech Sways making me ride on rails...

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...026&Auth=false

hunter001

IF the S2000 came as an S2800 (with a 2.8L V6/I6), and in Sedan form, I would trade-up my beloved TL in and purchase it....assuming that it comes equipped with the NAV system as an option, which is a must for me.



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quick5hift

boba thats one nice ride...very clean look

Gomez

How ignorant... I suppose you always drive your TL full-throttle and run it up to the redline? No, because it has ample torque and good power anywhere on the RPM band. Not the S2000, though - you gotta ream it out to get any sort of performance.

Personally, I don't want to have to hear an engine scream and wait to get to over 8000 RPM just to get on the freeway every time.

Maybe you should just drive a motorcycle, Rice?

And by the way, a 360 Ferrari has a large engine with plenty of torque down low unlike an S2000. Road and Track wouldn't have even brought up the 7000 RPM 0-60 time of the S2000 if it wasn't so noteworthy and slow.

Now go hop on the subway and smell the magic...

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-Wing, tint, wood and Whistler

Rice1304

my point is, who cares if you "have to hear the engine scream" (you're making it sound as if it were a bad thing!!!). People who talk about "usable power" are stupid. The bottom line is that the s2k can and will still get you to 60 mph about the same time as an e36 m3. You just have to rev it higher. There is no law that says you can't rev over 7k rpm!!!! Besides, on the torque curve above, after 5.5 torque significantly increases.

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Shoofin

No no no no, you've got it all wrong! Drive it like you HATE it, not stole it..
Ed

bobatimez

this is going a long way towards showing how lost TL people are in terms of s2000s. Just drive one than talk and not a second before because the numbers don't do it justice. driving it is like a direct extension of ur body going 99 mph on the ridge road. never felt anything like it.

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Some Said, "TL Type S," Soon They Will Say, "Wannabe TL-S." Laguna METALLIC, Navi, Side Cuts, Tint All Around, Interior Footwell Lighting, Eibach ProKit, PIAA 1700x Fogs custom cut into side holes, Akimoto Intake, Inspire Tails, 17" Type-S Rims with 215/45/17 Bridgestone Potenza RE730's, Visor, Wood Shifter, Comptech Sways making me ride on rails...

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...026&Auth=false

Don's TL

Yeah man, what he said. Go all out and get a Supra turbo, BPU it and go single! That's what I'm thinking about too, just have to find one in good condition!



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SL1200MK4

Well, I think the Supra is gonna go CRAZY on the straight highway or drag strip.

The S2000 will feel like a kart on the track.

Like I said the S2000 is unique. It's loud when you want to drive it fast, because you have to rev it. Sure the thing moves but you'll miss torque eventually...

socal28

[quote]Originally posted by Gomez:
[b] In defense of the S2000....since I do have one!
The low torque isn't that bad. And the torque is pretty flat from 3k to 9k RPMS with a little jump at VTEC. ~130 torque max isn't bad for a 2700lb car. I'm pretty confident I can keep up with a stock Civic Si without going to VTEC (pass 6k RPM) and keep up with a Boxster S going to 9k RPM.
But it is true that you do have to drive it like you stole it to really get the performance out of it!


Just my .02 cents.


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1999 Dark Emerald Pearl TL w/ nav
Factory underbody kit and rear spoiler.
Comptech springs, sways, headers and exhaust.
18x7.5 +48 5Zigen Heidfeld wheels with 225/40ZR18 Nitto NT-555 tires.
Inspire Tail-lights with Polarg M-23 P8711R signal bulbs.
DEI Viper 550ESP Alarm
Pics of my TL
Pics of my S2000

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boku

iTrader: (1)

Get an Insight

....Hella fast!

big mike 13

,lol... the thread is over 4 years old.....

boku

iTrader: (1)

hey, it's never too late.

Bushwah

[QUOTE=Shoofin]I wouldn't trade the TL to get an S2000, i'd get the S2000 in addition.... two different cars, IMO..
Ed


if you can afford it.

VITEK

OMG!!! THAT WAS SOME OL CYBER BUMP SHIT! HE BUMPED THIS THREAD BACK FROM THE FUTURE. I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING "damn... this thread is old as hell, damn, its four years old. who didn't either have a life or who was REALLY bored!!!!!!"