TL-S vs MB CLK430
04-10-2002, 03:27 PM
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TL-S vs MB CLK430
This should be under the subject "don't try this at home."
I pulled up to the light next to a MB CLK. You know what happens next, so I'll leave out the details. Thinking this was a CLK320, at the green I nailed it. Little did I know it was a CLK430 with a driver intent on crossing two lanes over to my right to make an exit. Needless to say, it wasn't even close.
I've not run a CLK320, but know they have 215 hp, so that'd at least be a race. I think the 430 has 275 HP. Yikes!
So beware, and don't confuse the two like I did...
I pulled up to the light next to a MB CLK. You know what happens next, so I'll leave out the details. Thinking this was a CLK320, at the green I nailed it. Little did I know it was a CLK430 with a driver intent on crossing two lanes over to my right to make an exit. Needless to say, it wasn't even close.
I've not run a CLK320, but know they have 215 hp, so that'd at least be a race. I think the 430 has 275 HP. Yikes!
So beware, and don't confuse the two like I did...
04-10-2002, 03:51 PM
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This should be under the subject "don't try this at home."
I pulled up to the light next to a MB CLK. You know what happens next, so I'll leave out the details. Thinking this was a CLK320, at the green I nailed it. Little did I know it was a CLK430 with a driver intent on crossing two lanes over to my right to make an exit. Needless to say, it wasn't even close.
I've not run a CLK320, but know they have 215 hp, so that'd at least be a race. I think the 430 has 275 HP. Yikes!
So beware, and don't confuse the two like I did...
This should be under the subject "don't try this at home."
I pulled up to the light next to a MB CLK. You know what happens next, so I'll leave out the details. Thinking this was a CLK320, at the green I nailed it. Little did I know it was a CLK430 with a driver intent on crossing two lanes over to my right to make an exit. Needless to say, it wasn't even close.
I've not run a CLK320, but know they have 215 hp, so that'd at least be a race. I think the 430 has 275 HP. Yikes!
So beware, and don't confuse the two like I did...
04-10-2002, 04:01 PM
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Once he bolted four car lengths ahead and immediately cut in front of me (no turn signal, mind you), I let off the gas, so I didn't engage him for long.
I just don't see how a TL-S could hang with a 430. With 15 more HP, more torque, etc. I now know why he got the jump.
Maybe I need to compile a list of cars to leave alone @ the traffic light...
I just don't see how a TL-S could hang with a 430. With 15 more HP, more torque, etc. I now know why he got the jump.
Maybe I need to compile a list of cars to leave alone @ the traffic light...
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Originally posted by fifo
Once he bolted four car lengths ahead and immediately cut in front of me (no turn signal, mind you), I let off the gas, so I didn't engage him for long.
I just don't see how a TL-S could hang with a 430. With 15 more HP, more torque, etc. I now know why he got the jump.
Maybe I need to compile a list of cars to leave alone @ the traffic light...
Once he bolted four car lengths ahead and immediately cut in front of me (no turn signal, mind you), I let off the gas, so I didn't engage him for long.
I just don't see how a TL-S could hang with a 430. With 15 more HP, more torque, etc. I now know why he got the jump.
Maybe I need to compile a list of cars to leave alone @ the traffic light...
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you guys are comparing a 2 door coupe rear wheel drive V-8 to a 4-door front wheel drive V6. We couldn't even beat a 4-dr E430. Keep dreaming. My father owns an E-55 and he'd smoke me anyday. Keep dreaming and maybe you'll win.
04-10-2002, 07:52 PM
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You have to remember.....you're in a BENZ. You're not supposed to feel anything. I couldn't even tell how fast I was going in the E55. I can feel everything in my TL-S. It's all that luxury they put in the car so you can relax while crusing at 150.
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Originally posted by MoDzHuNgRy
you guys are comparing a 2 door coupe rear wheel drive V-8 to a 4-door front wheel drive V6. We couldn't even beat a 4-dr E430. Keep dreaming. My father owns an E-55 and he'd smoke me anyday. Keep dreaming and maybe you'll win.
you guys are comparing a 2 door coupe rear wheel drive V-8 to a 4-door front wheel drive V6. We couldn't even beat a 4-dr E430. Keep dreaming. My father owns an E-55 and he'd smoke me anyday. Keep dreaming and maybe you'll win.
The best time I've ever seen for a CLK430 for 0-60 is 6.5 and I'm pretty sure the 1/4 times are very similar to the TLS. Maybe once you're up to speed it would be a different story but from a stand still it would be pretty close.
04-10-2002, 08:55 PM
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Ok, I hate to say this, but NO.. CLK430 Coupe would leave our TLS behind..... those can do as low as 6-flat 0-60, and 1/4 mile in mid-14's consistantly...... CLK430 Cab should be about par with TLS in 0-60, and maybe 1/4 mile, but would again leave use behind once it picks up some speed....
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04-11-2002, 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by CKacura
There is a thread on this forum "You asked for it" posted by JZMD1.
fifo: i have the feeling that you are the subject of his thread.
There is a thread on this forum "You asked for it" posted by JZMD1.
fifo: i have the feeling that you are the subject of his thread.
04-11-2002, 09:19 AM
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Re: 430 or 55
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Are you sure it was not CLK 55? 430 should not be that much faster that TL-S.
Are you sure it was not CLK 55? 430 should not be that much faster that TL-S.
After he jumped ahead that fast, I let off right when I was shifting into 2nd.
04-11-2002, 11:46 AM
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Re: TL-S vs MB CLK430
I have answer for you.
I say there shoudn't be big difference between TLS and MB430. Sometimes Street racing on normal road. TLS can hang around and could be faster. FWD cars are suppose to be good on the street than RWD. In racing track, it will be a different story, MB 430 can kill our TLS, that's what rwd cars are for. Have you seen motor tracks around the world, they are all rwds and gets much better traction because the roads are very clean free from the bumps. AWD cars are for all season tracks any where on the road and has much better traction.
MB430 on the street and race track will make substantial difference.
I say there shoudn't be big difference between TLS and MB430. Sometimes Street racing on normal road. TLS can hang around and could be faster. FWD cars are suppose to be good on the street than RWD. In racing track, it will be a different story, MB 430 can kill our TLS, that's what rwd cars are for. Have you seen motor tracks around the world, they are all rwds and gets much better traction because the roads are very clean free from the bumps. AWD cars are for all season tracks any where on the road and has much better traction.
MB430 on the street and race track will make substantial difference.
04-12-2002, 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by AKRY
Ok, I hate to say this, but NO.. CLK430 Coupe would leave our TLS behind..... those can do as low as 6-flat 0-60, and 1/4 mile in mid-14's consistantly...... CLK430 Cab should be about par with TLS in 0-60, and maybe 1/4 mile, but would again leave use behind once it picks up some speed....
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Ok, I hate to say this, but NO.. CLK430 Coupe would leave our TLS behind..... those can do as low as 6-flat 0-60, and 1/4 mile in mid-14's consistantly...... CLK430 Cab should be about par with TLS in 0-60, and maybe 1/4 mile, but would again leave use behind once it picks up some speed....
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There's nothing to debate about here.
04-12-2002, 12:40 AM
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yeah, unless the driver is stupid there is no way we can hang with the mb v8... clk 430, e430, etc.... they are simply fast. and the e55? boy forget it, it's the fastest auto sedan in the world as far as i know! maybe it even beats the m5!
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Originally posted by rominl
yeah, unless the driver is stupid there is no way we can hang with the mb v8... clk 430, e430, etc.... they are simply fast. and the e55? boy forget it, it's the fastest auto sedan in the world as far as i know! maybe it even beats the m5!
yeah, unless the driver is stupid there is no way we can hang with the mb v8... clk 430, e430, etc.... they are simply fast. and the e55? boy forget it, it's the fastest auto sedan in the world as far as i know! maybe it even beats the m5!
04-12-2002, 09:39 AM
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When looking at the TL-S HP/0-60 times remember this. That the Torque that a V-8 puts out at 1k RPM is so much more abundant than our cars that virtually anyone can drive that kind of car very briskly. The TL-S's has very high strung characteristic, and very small amount of low RPM torque.
I have a MB 500E, a slightly slower and older version of the E55. The TL-S is a really nice, fun to drive every day scoot, but from whatever speed if I stomp on the throttle of the 500E it's later for wherever I was so fast that it is silly. The torque is very linear, and always there no matter what speed, gear or RPM.
Chances are if you beat a MB 430 you caught the driver inserting a CD when the light turned green.
I have a MB 500E, a slightly slower and older version of the E55. The TL-S is a really nice, fun to drive every day scoot, but from whatever speed if I stomp on the throttle of the 500E it's later for wherever I was so fast that it is silly. The torque is very linear, and always there no matter what speed, gear or RPM.
Chances are if you beat a MB 430 you caught the driver inserting a CD when the light turned green.
04-12-2002, 09:54 AM
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Just so you are aware that many tls/cls guys make stories up to make themselves feel better. Many tls/cls guys also claim that they beat porshes and supras. They also don't believe in facts.
Just so you are aware that many tls/cls guys make stories up to make themselves feel better. Many tls/cls guys also claim that they beat porshes and supras. They also don't believe in facts.
04-12-2002, 01:03 PM
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Red Hot TL,
E430 has 4Matic starting MY2000, I believe.... and in Europe, you can even order E55 AMG 4Matic....
roadman,
500E really needs that ASR-Defeat mod... get it, and you would surprise alot of E55 owners... Oh, and do everything you can to keep the engine temp as long as possible.... MB's DOHC V8s are very sensitive to temperature....and management retard the timing with every 10C increase in temp...
MB V8s makes alot of torque starting down in low rpm range. 500E makes some where between 347lb-ft to 354lb-ft(depends on which model year...1992 500Es are the strongest among all 500E/E500 build), and 90% of the torque are available starting at 1,500 rpm, and it's already making more torque then max torque of TLS....
I have friend with a 1992 500E, and the car can run 0-60 in low-mid 5's, 1/4 miles in low 14's all day long.... so, don't mess with those as well even though they looks boxy and aged(personal tastes... to me, tney are elegant, timeless designs)...
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E430 has 4Matic starting MY2000, I believe.... and in Europe, you can even order E55 AMG 4Matic....
roadman,
500E really needs that ASR-Defeat mod... get it, and you would surprise alot of E55 owners...
Oh, and do everything you can to keep the engine temp as long as possible.... MB's DOHC V8s are very sensitive to temperature....and management retard the timing with every 10C increase in temp...MB V8s makes alot of torque starting down in low rpm range. 500E makes some where between 347lb-ft to 354lb-ft(depends on which model year...1992 500Es are the strongest among all 500E/E500 build), and 90% of the torque are available starting at 1,500 rpm, and it's already making more torque then max torque of TLS....
I have friend with a 1992 500E, and the car can run 0-60 in low-mid 5's, 1/4 miles in low 14's all day long.... so, don't mess with those as well even though they looks boxy and aged(personal tastes... to me, tney are elegant, timeless designs)...
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04-12-2002, 08:33 PM
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Red Hot TL,
E430 has 4Matic starting MY2000, I believe.... and in Europe, you can even order E55 AMG 4Matic....
roadman,
500E really needs that ASR-Defeat mod... get it, and you would surprise alot of E55 owners... Oh, and do everything you can to keep the engine temp as long as possible.... MB's DOHC V8s are very sensitive to temperature....and management retard the timing with every 10C increase in temp...
MB V8s makes alot of torque starting down in low rpm range. 500E makes some where between 347lb-ft to 354lb-ft(depends on which model year...1992 500Es are the strongest among all 500E/E500 build), and 90% of the torque are available starting at 1,500 rpm, and it's already making more torque then max torque of TLS....
I have friend with a 1992 500E, and the car can run 0-60 in low-mid 5's, 1/4 miles in low 14's all day long.... so, don't mess with those as well even though they looks boxy and aged(personal tastes... to me, tney are elegant, timeless designs)...
Andy Kuo
Red Hot TL,
E430 has 4Matic starting MY2000, I believe.... and in Europe, you can even order E55 AMG 4Matic....
roadman,
500E really needs that ASR-Defeat mod... get it, and you would surprise alot of E55 owners...
Oh, and do everything you can to keep the engine temp as long as possible.... MB's DOHC V8s are very sensitive to temperature....and management retard the timing with every 10C increase in temp...MB V8s makes alot of torque starting down in low rpm range. 500E makes some where between 347lb-ft to 354lb-ft(depends on which model year...1992 500Es are the strongest among all 500E/E500 build), and 90% of the torque are available starting at 1,500 rpm, and it's already making more torque then max torque of TLS....
I have friend with a 1992 500E, and the car can run 0-60 in low-mid 5's, 1/4 miles in low 14's all day long.... so, don't mess with those as well even though they looks boxy and aged(personal tastes... to me, tney are elegant, timeless designs)...
Andy Kuo
Mine is a 92, but the 500E/E500's have Porche engines not MB engines like the E55. The 500E's were the first and last cars made by both MB and Porche. On the coolant side I use Redline Water Wetter, it is supposed to make a difference, I put in in just in case.
It is a boxy car and way to much engine for it's own good, wonder why they picked a such a plain car to drop this engine in ? I also believe that it is the same engine that is in the Porche 928 GTS
04-13-2002, 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by roadman
Andy,
Mine is a 92, but the 500E/E500's have Porche engines not MB engines like the E55. The 500E's were the first and last cars made by both MB and Porche. On the coolant side I use Redline Water Wetter, it is supposed to make a difference, I put in in just in case.
It is a boxy car and way to much engine for it's own good, wonder why they picked a such a plain car to drop this engine in ? I also believe that it is the same engine that is in the Porche 928 GTS
Andy,
Mine is a 92, but the 500E/E500's have Porche engines not MB engines like the E55. The 500E's were the first and last cars made by both MB and Porche. On the coolant side I use Redline Water Wetter, it is supposed to make a difference, I put in in just in case.
It is a boxy car and way to much engine for it's own good, wonder why they picked a such a plain car to drop this engine in ? I also believe that it is the same engine that is in the Porche 928 GTS
They were making 400E back then... since 400E's 4.2L V8 is virtually the same(except bore and stroke) as 5.0L V8 in 500E, they might as well make a M5-fighter...
and NO, 500E/E500 does NOT have Porsche engine... it's the exact same 5.0L DOHC V8 used in 500SL/SL500 and 500SE/500SEL/S500 with one exception: The engines used in 500E/E500 are dynoed and picked out by MB.... only the strongest are selected.... Porsche did the suspension mods, as well as some other mechanical(new sub-frames for suspension, flared fenders...etc) mods.... MB provide the body shell, as well as most part of the interior.... 500E/E500 were build on the exact assembly line used to build 959s... and was build alone side with 911....P.S. FYI, it takes an average of 18 days to complete ONE 500E/E500....
P.S.S. I think 928 GTS has 5.4L V8??
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04-13-2002, 04:34 AM
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Andy,
You are right, I had mis-info (MB always gave me that line as a reason why the service $ has so high), the 500E's engine was the same M119 V8 used in the 500SL, the 500E was specified with Bosch LH Jetronic fuel injection (the 500SL used KE Jetronic) and a redesigned intake manifold with longer runners that resulted in an additional 22 lb-ft of torque, developing a maximum 354 lb-ft at 3900 rpm. I know that it is rare to see a 500E, they were only made a few years with in think about 300-400 a year making it into the US.
The point is that the 500E has approx 322 hp, vs the TL-S 260, add some headers, Cai and you may get the TL-S up to 300, but the difference is still light years in terms of performance.
You are right, I had mis-info (MB always gave me that line as a reason why the service $ has so high), the 500E's engine was the same M119 V8 used in the 500SL, the 500E was specified with Bosch LH Jetronic fuel injection (the 500SL used KE Jetronic) and a redesigned intake manifold with longer runners that resulted in an additional 22 lb-ft of torque, developing a maximum 354 lb-ft at 3900 rpm. I know that it is rare to see a 500E, they were only made a few years with in think about 300-400 a year making it into the US.
The point is that the 500E has approx 322 hp, vs the TL-S 260, add some headers, Cai and you may get the TL-S up to 300, but the difference is still light years in terms of performance.
04-13-2002, 07:32 AM
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Road Man, that 500E you have there is still my favorite MB. Without a doubt. When I was at the Porsche factory (almost 10 years ago now:wow, I had the pleasure of seeing a trailer load of 500E's with no drivetrain being unloaded. It was at Porsche to get it's drivetrain installed. Damn I still love that car.
IMO, the 500E's with the fender flare's are just plain gorgeous! More so than the present E class.
, I had the pleasure of seeing a trailer load of 500E's with no drivetrain being unloaded. It was at Porsche to get it's drivetrain installed. Damn I still love that car. IMO, the 500E's with the fender flare's are just plain gorgeous!
More so than the present E class.
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Originally posted by roadman
Andy,
You are right, I had mis-info (MB always gave me that line as a reason why the service $ has so high), the 500E's engine was the same M119 V8 used in the 500SL, the 500E was specified with Bosch LH Jetronic fuel injection (the 500SL used KE Jetronic) and a redesigned intake manifold with longer runners that resulted in an additional 22 lb-ft of torque, developing a maximum 354 lb-ft at 3900 rpm. I know that it is rare to see a 500E, they were only made a few years with in think about 300-400 a year making it into the US.
The point is that the 500E has approx 322 hp, vs the TL-S 260, add some headers, Cai and you may get the TL-S up to 300, but the difference is still light years in terms of performance.
Andy,
You are right, I had mis-info (MB always gave me that line as a reason why the service $ has so high), the 500E's engine was the same M119 V8 used in the 500SL, the 500E was specified with Bosch LH Jetronic fuel injection (the 500SL used KE Jetronic) and a redesigned intake manifold with longer runners that resulted in an additional 22 lb-ft of torque, developing a maximum 354 lb-ft at 3900 rpm. I know that it is rare to see a 500E, they were only made a few years with in think about 300-400 a year making it into the US.
The point is that the 500E has approx 322 hp, vs the TL-S 260, add some headers, Cai and you may get the TL-S up to 300, but the difference is still light years in terms of performance.
You are absolutely right!!
There are less than 1500 500E/E500 imported into US.... there are approx 633 500Es sold in US in 1992, 498 in 1993, and 374 in 1994(last year for North America), and there are less than 100 500Es imported into Canada in 1992!!! These are truely unique, rare breed collector items!!P.S. I envy you, my friend!! Not only you dig up the engine code name, you even find out that 500SL(they switch to Bosch in 1993) and 500E has different engine managements!!! Hats off to you!!
Oh, and be sure to check out http://www.mercedesshop.com for any MB tech related problems... I post there as AKRY as well....Andy Kuo
04-14-2002, 06:36 PM
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I had the privilage to run into a CLK 430 "up north". Up north is where the nice country roads are where i live. Anywayz, I never pulled up beside him, we were on one lane roads, but i followed him for half an hour and we ran into about 4 stop signs. He'd nail it off the stop sign and so would I, which to me is good enough of a race. Honestly once i got into 3rd gear i started creeping on the guy. This happened every time. He went through the corners about the same speed as me, but that doesnt mean he was pushing it as hard as i was. So thats the deal. If you see one, race it. Dont forget to check the rims for a little "AMG" insignia though . That could put you in the rear view with little trouble. Happy racin'.
. That could put you in the rear view with little trouble. Happy racin'.
04-15-2002, 10:13 AM
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Roadman,
You are absolutely right!! There are less than 1500 500E/E500 imported into US.... there are approx 633 500Es sold in US in 1992, 498 in 1993, and 374 in 1994(last year for North America), and there are less than 100 500Es imported into Canada in 1992!!! These are truely unique, rare breed collector items!!
P.S. I envy you, my friend!! Not only you dig up the engine code name, you even find out that 500SL(they switch to Bosch in 1993) and 500E has different engine managements!!! Hats off to you!! Oh, and be sure to check out http://www.mercedesshop.com for any MB tech related problems... I post there as AKRY as well....
Andy Kuo
Roadman,
You are absolutely right!!
There are less than 1500 500E/E500 imported into US.... there are approx 633 500Es sold in US in 1992, 498 in 1993, and 374 in 1994(last year for North America), and there are less than 100 500Es imported into Canada in 1992!!! These are truely unique, rare breed collector items!!P.S. I envy you, my friend!! Not only you dig up the engine code name, you even find out that 500SL(they switch to Bosch in 1993) and 500E has different engine managements!!! Hats off to you!!
Oh, and be sure to check out http://www.mercedesshop.com for any MB tech related problems... I post there as AKRY as well....Andy Kuo
Andy,
I cannot take all of the credit for that one, I called MB and the service guy e-mailed me the info. I try not to look under the hood, it scares me that there are what looks like only a few centermeters between the engine and the fender wells. How on earth did they get this engine into this car is beyond me.
Thanks for the URL, I will check into that site
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Originally posted by roadman
Andy,
I cannot take all of the credit for that one, I called MB and the service guy e-mailed me the info. I try not to look under the hood, it scares me that there are what looks like only a few centermeters between the engine and the fender wells. How on earth did they get this engine into this car is beyond me.
Thanks for the URL, I will check into that site
Andy,
I cannot take all of the credit for that one, I called MB and the service guy e-mailed me the info. I try not to look under the hood, it scares me that there are what looks like only a few centermeters between the engine and the fender wells. How on earth did they get this engine into this car is beyond me.
Thanks for the URL, I will check into that site
IMO, 80-85C(176-185F) seems to be the optimal temperature for M119....go check on Mercedes Shop(URL I post above), and do a search on W124/500E Cooling... you should find plenty of information about it...
P.S. My 400SE runs at roughly 110C(230F) constantly during summer with AC on.... and roughly 95 - 100C(203-212F) with AC Off....
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