for thoes of you that have driven both witch do you perfere.

things i like about tls

its a honda
bigger back seat
little bit more room up front
handles pretty good
is pretty quick for a 4 door
looks bad ass with the oem body kit
better resale value
you can get it for lower then msrp

things i like about the g35
faster by a tad
the nav system is way better better layout and it has a better more human sounding voice. and does not beep at you before the directions.
rwd
handles great
uses the skyline frame (woo hoo)
seats a bit more comfertable
big trunk
has more tourqe
leather feals more like leather
optional sport package better suspension then stock
tcs and vdc


ahh i just dont know i am going to be using it for realtor agent you know driving around clients looking for houses. witch would you rather ride along in and witch one would rather own.

then theres the honda piolet but thats a suv and i dont think i am a suv guy. i drive a type r after all.

 

"thoes"; "witch"; "perfere"; "comfertable"; "tourqe"; "feals"; "piolet" .... WTF?!:wow: <P>

If i were in your situation, I think I'd buy a dictionary first!

:p

 

lol....

 

how come this thread never ends??

 

ok so my spelling sucks ass. the reason this keeps going on is because both cars are so close. each car has things that are better then the other.

 

All things being equal, I would pick a Honda over a Nissan.

That's simply from my experiences with Hondas and Nissans in regards to reliability issues after the fourth or fifth year. I don't get a car to lease for just a few years. When I select a car, I expect to have it for quite a while, and I base much of my decision on such things.

 

Right now, if I had the choice I would buy the Nissan. I love my car, they just came out with a great one to... mainly becasue its RWD.

 

do u really expect people to give an unbiased answer, especially when 99% of the users here have a TL or TL-S????

 

I'd rather buy a Mcclaren.

By the way I saw an Orange one DRIVING the other week in Scottsdale...I was in shock for about 3 days!

 

I am in the market for a new car as well. I drove a number of cars, including the TL S and the G35.

I love how the TL S looks. The G35 looks a little strange.

While I like the rear wheel drive of the Infinti, I am leaning toward the Acura.

The TL S has a tighter feel to it, more room, and a sportier ride. The G35 rides sporty, but has more of a luxury feel (not that that's bad).

It boils down to what you feel better in. Can't go wrong with either. My vote.... Acura.

 

seriously, this has been discussed quite a few times already, so i'm going to be brief
yes, most people here would lean toward the honda and the g35 people would lean towards the nissan.
subjective things aside, there's no question that the g35 handles better, it's a RWD that weighs less with good tires, and it also has a very nice engine, so if that's what you like, get the g35
the TL has nice interior layout and superior ergonomics, handles good for it's weight and FWD disadventage
note: despite the G35's weight,tire,RWD,torque adventage, the TL-S managed to pull on the G35 in 0-100mph in the July R&T test

the best way is still driving them both back to back, pick which one you like, and get that, it's that simple, not many people can give you a true answer, not even (or especially?? ) the mag editors!

anyways, whatever you buy, good luck and have fun with it

 

lmfao.....hahahahahaha

 

I pretty much agree with Vampyre777 on everything except the Navi. The G35 owners that have the Navi on FreshAlloy.com seem to agree that the best DVD Navi's are in Lexus, Acura, Infinity, then BMW & Benz (in that order). A 3D birds-eye view looks cool but it doesn't take the place of useable functionality. Also the Infinity system isn't touch screen making it harder to use and it won't let you program new destinations or waypoints while in motion.
I agree with STi except that the FWD is actually an advantage on bad road conditions. That might actually be a significant consideration for a real estate agent. These two cars are a dead heat on straight line acceleration. The TLS handles great but the G35 will handle better thanks to it's excellent weight distribution and the G35 has great braking. In my opinion, almost everything else comes down to your preferences and value based on the options you are willing to buy. I don't think you could go wrong with either one. Good luck with your decision!

 

the g35 navi you can select both birds eye and normal overhead view. and the touch screen funtion does not really matter that much to me. the voice is better on the g35. thanks for all the input.

 

DHB

i didn't mention that the FWD is a disadventage in all conditions, but in performance driving and acceleration, RWD does have an adventage

 

Sorry STi but I didn't notice your original post making that distinction. You make a lot of good points and I completely agree that rear wheel drive is generally an advantage during cornering but so far it doesn't seem to have much of an advantage if any for the G35 in straight line acceleration.

 

I personally like the looks of the TL-S better, both inside and out. Sure the rear wheel drive provides "truer" sport sedan handling, but let's be honest, how often are you going to be pulling four wheel drifts with clients in the car?

 

the interior of the infinity is a lot nicer but it looks like ass from the outside.

 

I've had my experience with Nissans. S-ER, Pathfinder, and a friend of mine who had a 240SX.

In a nutshell, "Looks great but has no soul"

One common factor with Nissans are that they're built cheap. There's not much quality into a Nissan vehicle. I've seen the interior of the new G35. Not bad.

I'd go with the TL-S because of quality being the determining factor. Not to mention the rear lights look weird on the G35.

 

DHB there's definately adventage in RWD when you're drag racing, with the RWD, you can go WOT while not wasting much time on wheelspin
when the car accelerates, the weight is shifted to the rear wheels keeping the rear tires planted, and you can also better control the tire slippage you want when you accelerate at WOT
hope this clears thing up

>>the interior of the infinity is a lot nicer but it looks like ass from the outside.

i think the interior looks unique, but it is not well-layed out
when one sits inside the G35, he can immediately know why the G35 can out-handles the TL for the same price... :p

 

I'm not sure I'm buying your explanation. If that were the case, why is it so difficult to keep from lighting up the tires on Beemers, Z28s, Mustang GTs, etc.?

 

it's hard because they have wide summer tires, it's not hard at all to spin the tires on the mustang, z28s if you have manual
if you have auto, you can brake-torque, and you can have a bit of wheel spin to help acceleration

what i mean is that you can have a bit of wheelspin, but not too much therefore having much more of the power to the ground than FWD, which just wastes too much time on wheel-spin

but at 0-60+ mph, it won't matter that much because at second gear, the tires aren't likely to slip anymore for the FWDs

 

I hope you are not refering to the R34 "REAL" skyline frame. The G35 is the new skyline so of course it uses the skyline frame...hello!!!!!

My girlfriend just cameover and overlook my computer screen, she saw G35 and said (ohh my car) in a sarcastic way of course, she has a G20, then she asked me what are they talking about G35? she read the topic and gave you this answer "The TL-S because the G35 is ugly. "

You know girls do not care much about the technical stuff, just beauty

 

>>I hope you are not refering to the R34 "REAL" skyline frame. The G35 is the new skyline so of course it uses the skyline frame...hello!!!!!


it's interesting so many g35 owners think they're driving the legendary Skyline, well they're not unfortunately, not that the new skyline is a bad car though, it's a great chassis mated to a great engine, just too bad that it's not the company pride&joy anymore i guess... how could they abandon the legendary name for their top-of-the-line...

yes, it's named skyline, but the new version of the legendary GT-R will most likely be a totally different car

 

I had a '93 240SX SE before, and IMO the build quality is really good both for interior and exterior.... car is pretty much trouble-free, except couple minor common problems..... HOWEVER, G35 interior looks BAD!!! I dislike the plastic dashboard cover the most.... and power seat controls are not far behind either.....

Also, to clear things up... as STi stated, 4DR Skyline has nothing to do with 2DR Skyline... they are 2 complete different cars on 2 completely different chassis......

Andy Kuo

 

STi, I don't see your point when you say drag racing. If you want to do that then you'd be better off spending the 30K on a 4.6L V8 390 HP Mustang and drag race with that. These are luxury cars, one may be faster than the other by a fraction of a second. Don't say that RWD in the G35 has superiority over the FWD in the TL-S.

You can always spend some money on I/H/E on any of the two cars and you will get results that will show. The entire RWD and the FWD thing is just not working.

Remember that you have a luxury car and not a sports car.

Oh and bytheway, I think that the G35 is a chick car. Saw a couple of them the other day, all of the drivers were girls.

When I drive my TL-S (or if I had the G35) I'd like to have the luxury feeling and also some power, and not a 4.6L V8 390 HP (although that'd be nice )

 

That's the point. Wide summer tires provide MORE traction in good weather.

 

ok
think about it this way
if they both have the same horsepower, but you can go WOT right away in the G35 while in the TL-S, you need to control the throttle to prevent the tire slipping, of course you get more hp down to the ground if you have a rwd car

when the car weight shift's to the rear in acceleration, it pushes the rear tire on the ground, which creates more frictions
Ff=mFn, and the bigger the Fn, the more friction

but when you have a fwd car, when the weight shifts to the rear, the smaller the Fn, the smaller the Ff, therefore the tire has very little traction, and if you want to use all that 260 hp, you need to WOT, and if you don't, you cant use all the 260hp like the g35 can

what i was trying to say is that, despite the g35 have much better traction at start plus better aerodynamics and less weight, the tl-s still manages to pull on it later, goes to show that honda makes fine engines

 

Good description STi.

 

I would most definitely go for the TL-S over the G35. I think that the G's interior will not stand the test of time, it looks like a bunch of cheap plastic. IMO, the TL has a much better interior than the Infiniti, fake wood and all, which I have no real problem with, as long as it looks good

As for exterior styling, I prefer the TL to the G35, again. The G could have done a lot better with the rear end of the car. Otherwise, the G is a decent looking car. Just wait for that G35 coupe, from what I have seen, it looks fantastic and shares only a few body panels with the sedan version. That 6-speed that they are going to throw into the car is going t make it really tight.

 

That is what I meant. By no means the NEW G35(skyline) uses the R34 skyline frame or anything to my understanding, is still a nissan, so yes they are the same engineers, but what they did with the R34 they will probably never match again. I would say the R34 is a prototype that somehow got into production.

 

Now I like the new G35 a lot, along with the Altima. I think they look great. However, I cannot understand the need for RWD on this board. I live in an area where there is snow and ice. I go out of my way to get FWD cars and have never had a RWD car nor do I have a desire to get one. Aside from the fact you get better performance from RWD, a RWD car in the winter sucks ****.

Aside from the above said, I would always pick a Honda over a Nissan.

 

Very good point. Most people, (I said most) don't usually drive their cars at the limits where you would see the inherent benefits of RWD over FWD.

It comes down to bragging rights.

 

well up till the begining of the week I would stear anyone I knew to the acura TL. It seemed to be a great car only small problems

I now have had it with acura's poor quality. I've had to get my break rotors resurafaced, and new break pads. Still have a bad vibration in the steering wheel, took it back to the dealer and they told me my one week old tires were the problem even though the problem was there with the old tires. I fought with them then they balance the wheels for free and tell me the problem is solved. Vibration still there.

The very next day my transmition went out. I'll give the dealership credit they did get me a rental car as I wont get my car back for about a week as they have to order a new trany for me. I got a grand prix to drive, no steering wheel vibration from this usa built sub par car.

I just test drove the g35 yesterday and wow is that car got what it takes to be a good competitor. Great looks, huge bitgs of power, and better hold on to your eyes when you stomp the breaks can you say porche like breaking, to get anything close out of our tl's we need to blow the 4k for brembo big break kits then spend more for new rims as you need 18's.


My approach is to get acura to refund my lemon and go get the g35. Save yourself the trouble and go for the g35 right away.

 

There's no reason to hate on the TLS just because you had bad luck. So many people here have found it to be a reliable, fast, comfortable, and stylish mode of transportation.

And while I'm at it, here's my approach, although someone already posted this in another thread. But it's worth mentioning as it's quite true:

"I'm going to buy a used G35 in a year. From what I've read, it'll be the best $16,000 I spend." - RAdams

 

I'm not hating on the tl-s just everyone here has had troubles with their cars and the g35 kills it in a head to head, shoot read motor trend and road n track this month and you will see the g35 is much better. Whish it was out when I was looking I would have bought it.

 

Man, it really sucks that you feel that way. Let me reiterate that NOT EVERYONE who has a TLS experienced problems with their cars as you indicate. On the contrary, the majority have had a positive experience (including me). If you think that the G35 (or any other car for that matter) has no problems, go ahead and buy one and find out the hard way.

I think the best bet for you may be to never buy a new car again. I can guarantee you that if you had bought the G35, you would see something newer and better on the road and want it too. It's partly human nature but it gets the best of some of us.

And finally, not to take away anything from the G35, but given the choices today, I would still buy a TL-S over it. Performance is not everything that I care about. Exterior and interior looks, resale value, gas mileage, and various other things tip the scale in the Acura's favor.

 

how many times are we gonna kill this topic?? In all seriousness, you CANT go wrong with either car. We all know its gonna pretty much come down to style, and if you like it you like it. Just because people here got issues with their cars, dont think that no other car has their own brand of special issues (ie TL transmission). and some of you gotta stop quoting car magazines. they all seem to say a different thing from eachother.

 

G35 is a brand new car. I'd hold off proclaiming that it has better build quality until a few more are on the roads and they've racked up comparable mileage to the TL/TL-S.

 

I loved the TL thought is was a great car. I ignored all the transmition problems everyone was having in here thinking they were just rough on their cars. I've never herd of a transmition blowing up at 35k miles or break disks with as much trouble as we have on this car. I like the looks of the TL and yes I can not say the g35 will not have any trobles but in no way shape or form with I ever tell someone to buy an acura with all the trouble I've had form a 3rd year model run. if it was the fiirst year I could see all these problems but come on this is the 3rd fun they should be flawless.

just go feal the diffrence in leather in the two cars and that will tell you huge amounts about build quality