broly

Hey guys.
I know that I"m not a very talkative guy. But this has been plaguing me.

I really want to get a 6 spd in my TL since it is just 100 times better looking than a CL.

I was wondering, since our Auto trannies are issue-full, that if it possible to do a CL-6 SPD Tranny swap to the TL.

I already have Brembo big brakes, Tein SS coilovers, Advan 19x9.0's for my mods.

I just really want to enjoy the car I love with more power and the true feel of a sports car.

Is it possible? I'm willing to pay well if it is possible to do, can you guys please give me some links? I couldn't find some proper links with the keywords I used

thx

loud_whispers

hmm.. intresting..

if the manual transmissions actually bolt up to the TL's..then sure it's absolutely possible. Never really thought about it before..

broly

Well the thing is , I have Greddy EVO2's in my Car, and it's made for the CL-S. THe fitment is PERFECT. The tips are maybe half an inch short of lining up with the bumper, I assume that the TL and CL are mechanically ideal

REDLINEN

Its gonna be big money Goodluck!!!!!

blk2001tlon19s

..........it will work to a certain degree however no one has tried this. If you do a search(not trying to be an asshole) you will see other posts such as this. Anyway, there have been a hand full of individuals who have this this swap on the 98-02 accords. I know if you check out www.v6performance.net and do a search you will see it. Good luck!




By the way, its expensive as hell and a lot of parts are needed!

broly

I saw a post where some 4spd 99 gu7y wanted to do it.
I might just trade in we'll see

broly

what's expensive including the tranny
7kish?

blk2001tlon19s

Depending on a lot of things, are you using used or new parts ...how much would labor be ...maybe so, I guess 7k could be a good guess on the price but again it depends on if used or new parts are being and how much labor is going to be for the install of it.

broly

I just want to be the first to do it. It would allow great advertising for the shop with the expertise so it would work great.

blk2001tlon19s

Well, good luck! The shop that did my turbo setup on my TL previously did a 6 speed swap on a V6 accord, and from what they told me...it was a lot of work involved. I didn't go into much detail because I wasn't really interested in it. There is a guy on the v6performance.net named Aidan. I forgot what his screen name is but I'm sure he could point you in the right direction http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=53194 there is a topic regarding it that I just found.


5150crx is aidan's screen name I believe on that website.

fsttyms1

It will bolt right up. Motors are teh same and the subframe will work. Its teh wiring and parts and labor that will run you. There are a couple threads with info on it. Do a search. There is a pretty big parts list and a big unknown as far as electrical goes. The accord guys have been doing this swap, but no one here

broly

Where can I buy that supposedly iron-clad automatic tranny that can sustain any type of power avail?

fsttyms1

You Cant. Even those have been failing

broly

Wow.!
wtb CL6 trany!

fsttyms1

Start checking with local salvage yards. See if you can find one with the whole front clip to make things easier.

But i would first read up on the parts list

blk2001tlon19s

Only aftermarket transmission that has worked on the Accord V6's is the Dr. Evil transmission. Dr.evil did say they did do one 5 speed honda transmission but they couldn't tell me any other information.

blk2001tlon19s

Check


www.car-part.com if you are looking for used parts. They have a transmission for as cheap as 700 something used from the quick glance I just had. Your best bet would be to find a totaled CL-S 6 speed and use it as a transplant car ...just transfer the stuff from one car to the other...again, Good luck if you pursue this.

fsttyms1

Yep. thats about the best idea. When i was looking into doing it thats what i did (and found) just never did it

blk2001tlon19s

By the way, don't know where you are located droth but there was a totaled CL-S 6 speed in Virginia that had a comptech supercharger and everything so maybe you can use that because I'm guessing it had rear damage if they are selling the engine/transmission but I could be wrong cause I didn't go to look at it.

broly

I'm in canada. but I can arrange for the sale of what you have just said above.
Keep me posted on that blk and tell them to contact me.

blk2001tlon19s

Just go on that website, do a search for 2003 CL-S engine. You will see it, the one one listed with a supercharger. To my knowledge, they have the car there. I never called or anything.

disgookonfiya

the hand brake is in the center consol on the CL where we have a foot brake.... u'd have to install a clutch, new computer i guess since there won't be one controlling the auto tranny, and who knows what else....

SatinSilverTypS

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bottom line: *anything* can be done with time and money.

my understanding from previous posts is that it has been done but there was alot of fabrication work needed. it's not a straightforward swap. it would also be expensive, considering the amount of parts and labor (not to mention car downtime) that would be needed.

personally, and this is just my opinion, i think you would be better off saving your money and getting a dr. evil, VR or level10 tranny upgrade. it's no guarantee that it won't fail but you're better off than you would be with OEM. don't go to a joe schmoe tranny shop and get it rebuilt though. other members (namely Optiq) have done this with unfortunate results. start shopping around and find a reputable shop for yourself.

the people i have talked to about the 6MT said that it was a "soft" transmission and would tend spin alot of tire under high-power applications. true, it's still a manual, but it might not necessarily be worth the effort. in the end it's your money and your dreams. if you want the 6MT then go for it!

SSTS

fastcarz3

hey i have an 02tls and awhile ago i posted i was going to do the swap with the 6spd i have an uncle in virgina that had a totaled cls that had a perfectly good front clip, even though i could of had all the parts the time involved and a small chance it wouldnt work out right wasnt worth it to cut up my perfectly good tl. ALso if i rememer correctly the cl axle is a bit longer then the tl therefore require frame alteration. might wanna look into that a bit more then i did. also your gonna have to fab a new clutch pedal mount and change out the center console. But if you do go through with it ywith success you bettter give me detailed instructions cause i want it done to my car!

fsttyms1

The manual is a far better tranny than a auto. the money spent on a tranny you have no idea if it will last would buy you all the parts to do the swap and then some. And if your willing to roll up your sleves and do some or all the work your self it would be cheaper. I priced out all the parts (including a type-s engine) and it came to 3k

blk2001tlon19s

Kris is right...especially if you are doing the work yourself, it will come out cheaper...at least it is proven that the manual will last since allmotor, thinjim and bluecl6 had no problems other than a slipping clutch with their turbos.

broly

3k for parts is not bad. I am just after the transmission though.
Also, If it's like 2k for the tranny plus 2k for install I"m up for it. Like I said I could be a great forfactor for many TL's and also, it's something i want to show my kids I did to my first car.

Please advise.
thanks

Ken1997TL

$3,000 sounds about right.

keep in mind you'll have to deal with wiring/ECU, pedal, linkage, center console.. the list goes on. Fortunately you can take a look at the CL compare the locations to your TL and go from there.

fsttyms1

If your talking 2 for parts 2 for labor in the 6 speed swap, thats not going to happen. Laborr is going to kill you. other than bolting the tranny up, its all fabrication/labor time figuring things out (there is no swap manual to follow) thats why i said if you were willing to roll your sleves up and dig in, most of the work isnt hard, just need to get dirty and figure things out.
Also if you dont have a type-s that complicates things more since the only way the car and its ecu came was with the type-s.(thats why i was going to do the engine swap at the same time, to simplify things)

fsttyms1

Thats why i said you must be willing to Roll up your sleves. If not labor is going to get you