Is a TL-s egine resilient enough to hold over 5,000 RPM for an hour without damaging
05-14-2002, 02:11 PM
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Is a TL-s egine resilient enough to hold over 5,000 RPM for an hour without damaging
I decided to start pushing my ABP TL-s. I just hit 6k on the odometer. Yesterday for about 30 minutes or so drove the car on the freeway like an Indy driver. I never let the rpm drop below 4k. I kept it in its full power range and man was it SWEET. How much abuse can the engines and trannies take in our cars. I know there is this tranny issue but I havent had a hit of a problem in my 02 TLS or the 00 TL i traded in after 25k. A little input would be appreciated.
05-14-2002, 02:20 PM
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Engine is solid. I'd change the oil and filter after an hour of driving above 5k but the engine will be fine. Baha, but i don' think the tranny will last that long just because the fluid will heat up to a point where it will either burn away giving you an aweful smell and/or you will no longer be able to shift.
05-14-2002, 03:17 PM
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that's called an "italian engine cleaning" 
seriously, some turbo fanatics say it's a good idea to drive with elevated RPMs for awhile every so often (maybe not 1/2 an hour:wow: ) it's supposed to keep oil lines from coking up. the elevated temps loosen any buildup in the engine. more of an issue with a turbo and its specific heat dissapation characteristics but i've heard others mention it time and again for normally aspirated cars.
personally, i prefer techtron every 5,000 miles. but that doesn't stop me from an occasional high RPM flailing
seriously, some turbo fanatics say it's a good idea to drive with elevated RPMs for awhile every so often (maybe not 1/2 an hour:wow: ) it's supposed to keep oil lines from coking up. the elevated temps loosen any buildup in the engine. more of an issue with a turbo and its specific heat dissapation characteristics but i've heard others mention it time and again for normally aspirated cars.
personally, i prefer techtron every 5,000 miles. but that doesn't stop me from an occasional high RPM flailing
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Yes it is. Probably could go 4 weeks at that rpm.
Yes it is. Probably could go 4 weeks at that rpm.
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Dude, a figure of speech. What I am saying is the engine is bulletproof.
From my understanding, Honda engines LOVE to be revved, hell that is where most of the peak power is.
From my understanding, Honda engines LOVE to be revved, hell that is where most of the peak power is.
05-14-2002, 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Dude, a figure of speech. What I am saying is the engine is bulletproof.
From my understanding, Honda engines LOVE to be revved, hell that is where most of the peak power is.
Dude, a figure of speech. What I am saying is the engine is bulletproof.
From my understanding, Honda engines LOVE to be revved, hell that is where most of the peak power is.
i figured that.....too bad they cant make a transmission bulletproof..
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Yes it is. The 3.2 engine is one hell of a solid piece of Honda enginering. Probably could go 4 weeks at that rpm.
Yes it is. The 3.2 engine is one hell of a solid piece of Honda enginering. Probably could go 4 weeks at that rpm.
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05-14-2002, 08:01 PM
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What does this accomplish on the highway that downshifting for power when you need it won't? I don't get it.
The trouble with light throttle at high RPM is that there is no downforce on the top of the piston (like there would be at full throttle) to counteract the massive acceleration rate of the piston as it swings through top dead center. This puts undue strain on the piston pin, rod, and rod bearing.
Additionally, keeping the front end of the tranny spinning fast for long periods builds up a LOT of heat.
Everyone thinks that today's engines last longer due to better engineering. While that's partly true, overdrive transmissions that keep the RPM low prolong the fatigue failure mode by a factor of two or more. This is as significant a contributor to long engine life as is "better engineering."
However, Honda engines are probably among the best built to take this sort of abuse.
In short, no doubt your car will break sooner than one driven normally. But, it's your nickel. Why didn't you get an S2000, if you wanted to drive this way?
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The trouble with light throttle at high RPM is that there is no downforce on the top of the piston (like there would be at full throttle) to counteract the massive acceleration rate of the piston as it swings through top dead center. This puts undue strain on the piston pin, rod, and rod bearing.
Additionally, keeping the front end of the tranny spinning fast for long periods builds up a LOT of heat.
Everyone thinks that today's engines last longer due to better engineering. While that's partly true, overdrive transmissions that keep the RPM low prolong the fatigue failure mode by a factor of two or more. This is as significant a contributor to long engine life as is "better engineering."
However, Honda engines are probably among the best built to take this sort of abuse.
In short, no doubt your car will break sooner than one driven normally. But, it's your nickel. Why didn't you get an S2000, if you wanted to drive this way?
Todd
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