TL - 330i - G35
11-14-2002, 06:30 AM
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I was under the impression the Nissan Skyline IS the Infiniti G35 is the USA (with the exception of a few minor differences). That is what my friends from Japan are telling me.
11-14-2002, 07:46 AM
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oh yea u r rite...
but the fact is...
they were discontinued so they put the skyline for a new car...
imagine they put the name camero to a cavailier coupe coz the old one discontinued...
but the fact is...
they were discontinued so they put the skyline for a new car...
imagine they put the name camero to a cavailier coupe coz the old one discontinued...
11-14-2002, 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by samkws
for those who buys audi but quattro are dumb dumb...
i can pay 5000 less to just get the Jetta 1.8T with 10 more horsepower and 17in wheels, REAL leather seats rather than cloth or fake leather that in A4...
they are basically the same~
for those who buys audi but quattro are dumb dumb...
i can pay 5000 less to just get the Jetta 1.8T with 10 more horsepower and 17in wheels, REAL leather seats rather than cloth or fake leather that in A4...
they are basically the same~
11-14-2002, 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by aepiua
I have to defend the Audi here. I recently switched from my TL to the A4 1.8t CVT. For $500 more with a chip the car will out perform the 3.0 A4. The handling is 100 times better than the TL and the build quality is incredible. I haven't had any rattles or squeeks, and not to mention the free scheduled maintenance including brake pads. I couldn't wait any longer to see the 04 TL so I had to make a choice and the A4 is by far the best alternative at this point in time.
I have to defend the Audi here. I recently switched from my TL to the A4 1.8t CVT. For $500 more with a chip the car will out perform the 3.0 A4. The handling is 100 times better than the TL and the build quality is incredible. I haven't had any rattles or squeeks, and not to mention the free scheduled maintenance including brake pads. I couldn't wait any longer to see the 04 TL so I had to make a choice and the A4 is by far the best alternative at this point in time.
- exterior styling is beautiful, very classy, makes TL look like crap.
- fit and finish is the best of seen in the price range.
Then I test drove it. The CVT has an annoying delay from a dead stop. When you step on the gas, it takes about half a second before the car gets moving. I know that's just how CVT's are, but I hate crappy throttle response, and that turned me off. Secondly, although the interior is supposed to be bigger than the previous model, it felt smaller, and I didn't think it was as well designed as the previous model.
Then I went to Acura, and fell in love with the TL-S. Audi makes a great car, but cannot compete with Acura's bang for the buck. Save for the two positive points I gave to Audi, almost everything else was better on the TL-S... even though it's an older to-be-redesigned model.
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11-14-2002, 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
I have to disagree on that one. I had a '96 A4 and when I decided to buy a new car, I went straight to the Audi dealership to check out the new model. The best things I can say about it:
- exterior styling is beautiful, very classy, makes TL look like crap.
- fit and finish is the best of seen in the price range.
Then I test drove it. The CVT has an annoying delay from a dead stop. When you step on the gas, it takes about half a second before the car gets moving. I know that's just how CVT's are, but I hate crappy throttle response, and that turned me off. Secondly, although the interior is supposed to be bigger than the previous model, it felt smaller, and I didn't think it was as well designed as the previous model.
Then I went to Acura, and fell in love with the TL-S. Audi makes a great car, but cannot compete with Acura's bang for the buck. Save for the two positive points I gave to Audi, almost everything else was better on the TL-S... even though it's an older to-be-redesigned model.
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I have to disagree on that one. I had a '96 A4 and when I decided to buy a new car, I went straight to the Audi dealership to check out the new model. The best things I can say about it:
- exterior styling is beautiful, very classy, makes TL look like crap.
- fit and finish is the best of seen in the price range.
Then I test drove it. The CVT has an annoying delay from a dead stop. When you step on the gas, it takes about half a second before the car gets moving. I know that's just how CVT's are, but I hate crappy throttle response, and that turned me off. Secondly, although the interior is supposed to be bigger than the previous model, it felt smaller, and I didn't think it was as well designed as the previous model.
Then I went to Acura, and fell in love with the TL-S. Audi makes a great car, but cannot compete with Acura's bang for the buck. Save for the two positive points I gave to Audi, almost everything else was better on the TL-S... even though it's an older to-be-redesigned model.
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11-14-2002, 05:27 PM
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See than again we go back to a german car.. I love them, handling, looks, and little features and luxury but I heard there electronics and etc go bad and make you pull out your wallet in no time.. So Since German cars are so high maintenance I tend to stay away from them.. And most of them are quite expensive..
I actually would buy the 330i but its out of my range.. the 325 well its just slow.. I like the way the 330i looks over the TL but the TL has more Bang for the Buck and I am waiting for the new restyled model..
Any other cars I should be considering except 2004 TL and G35?
I actually would buy the 330i but its out of my range.. the 325 well its just slow.. I like the way the 330i looks over the TL but the TL has more Bang for the Buck and I am waiting for the new restyled model..
Any other cars I should be considering except 2004 TL and G35?
11-14-2002, 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by 2004TL
See than again we go back to a german car.. I love them, handling, looks, and little features and luxury but I heard there electronics and etc go bad and make you pull out your wallet in no time.. So Since German cars are so high maintenance I tend to stay away from them.. And most of them are quite expensive..
I actually would buy the 330i but its out of my range.. the 325 well its just slow.. I like the way the 330i looks over the TL but the TL has more Bang for the Buck and I am waiting for the new restyled model..
Any other cars I should be considering except 2004 TL and G35?
See than again we go back to a german car.. I love them, handling, looks, and little features and luxury but I heard there electronics and etc go bad and make you pull out your wallet in no time.. So Since German cars are so high maintenance I tend to stay away from them.. And most of them are quite expensive..
I actually would buy the 330i but its out of my range.. the 325 well its just slow.. I like the way the 330i looks over the TL but the TL has more Bang for the Buck and I am waiting for the new restyled model..
Any other cars I should be considering except 2004 TL and G35?
11-15-2002, 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by DRTL
The best for you is a Audi A4 turbo with alll wheel drive. The car is very nice, looks better than the bmw, TL or G35 inside. and you can do all kinds of modifications on the engine.
The best for you is a Audi A4 turbo with alll wheel drive. The car is very nice, looks better than the bmw, TL or G35 inside. and you can do all kinds of modifications on the engine.
I would take the 3.0 if thats what your talking about, as it is longer and has more room.. Isnt it the same thing as a Passat?
11-15-2002, 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by 2004TL
I dont mind the A4.. its pretty nice.. But its smaller and slower than the current TL and slower than the 2004 TL.. It also doesnt feature Intelligent Cruise control which will be on the 2004 TL.. I just gotta wait for the 2004 TL to compare..
I would take the 3.0 if thats what your talking about, as it is longer and has more room.. Isnt it the same thing as a Passat?
I dont mind the A4.. its pretty nice.. But its smaller and slower than the current TL and slower than the 2004 TL.. It also doesnt feature Intelligent Cruise control which will be on the 2004 TL.. I just gotta wait for the 2004 TL to compare..
I would take the 3.0 if thats what your talking about, as it is longer and has more room.. Isnt it the same thing as a Passat?
11-15-2002, 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by 2004TL
I dont mind the A4.. its pretty nice.. But its smaller and slower than the current TL and slower than the 2004 TL.. It also doesnt feature Intelligent Cruise control which will be on the 2004 TL.. I just gotta wait for the 2004 TL to compare..
I would take the 3.0 if thats what your talking about, as it is longer and has more room.. Isnt it the same thing as a Passat?
I dont mind the A4.. its pretty nice.. But its smaller and slower than the current TL and slower than the 2004 TL.. It also doesnt feature Intelligent Cruise control which will be on the 2004 TL.. I just gotta wait for the 2004 TL to compare..
I would take the 3.0 if thats what your talking about, as it is longer and has more room.. Isnt it the same thing as a Passat?
If you plan on modding, then the 1.8T is much more moddable. However it's still going to be smaller than the TL. It's also comparably for the size.. much heavier. Considering the A4 is only a compact car, and weighs 3700 lbs, it's insane. The TL weighs less than that, making even THAT more tossable (for a big car).
A4 has benefits but personally I'd take the TL over it.. AWD is more limiting to me than fun. Granted some people enjoy the all-weather safety and extra ability to 'push it'.. but honestly in bad weather I drive carefully and more slowly. Just because you get an advantage because it's snowing doesn't mean I'd go do something like it was dry out. That's why AWD does not benefit me personally... sometimes you want to *cough* lose traction
11-15-2002, 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by AndySara
I was under the impression the Nissan Skyline IS the Infiniti G35 is the USA (with the exception of a few minor differences). That is what my friends from Japan are telling me.
I was under the impression the Nissan Skyline IS the Infiniti G35 is the USA (with the exception of a few minor differences). That is what my friends from Japan are telling me.
11-15-2002, 01:17 AM
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I got an A4 without quattro because I have no need for all wheel drive in Arizona. As for the delay in the CVT, it fades as the car breaks in and it learns your driving habits. On top of that, the chips solves any other problems with the delay.
11-15-2002, 03:55 AM
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Originally posted by BDI
A 1.8T A4 weighs about the same as a TL. The A4 is built much better than a TL too.
oh and.......Quattro=5000K rpm launches. :wow:
A 1.8T A4 weighs about the same as a TL. The A4 is built much better than a TL too.
oh and.......Quattro=5000K rpm launches. :wow:
However, if I was going with the A4 I'd also go with the FWD CVT version over the AWD... I can ditch the weightgain and still have a blast
11-15-2002, 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by Hercules
No doubt about that, it has a much better interior than probably ANY car.
However, if I was going with the A4 I'd also go with the FWD CVT version over the AWD... I can ditch the weightgain and still have a blast
No doubt about that, it has a much better interior than probably ANY car.
However, if I was going with the A4 I'd also go with the FWD CVT version over the AWD... I can ditch the weightgain and still have a blast
11-15-2002, 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by BDI
Did you try test driving the 1.8TQ or 3.0Q??
Did you try test driving the 1.8TQ or 3.0Q??
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11-15-2002, 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by CarFreak
Get the 330i! Here's a pic of my 3 day old bimmer
Get the 330i! Here's a pic of my 3 day old bimmer
It handles great, but for 40 grand I can't afford it. 35 grand, then maybe .. 30 grand and it's a steal!
11-15-2002, 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by Hercules
I'd get it in a heartbeat, but it's just too much money for too little car
It handles great, but for 40 grand I can't afford it. 35 grand, then maybe .. 30 grand and it's a steal!
I'd get it in a heartbeat, but it's just too much money for too little car
It handles great, but for 40 grand I can't afford it. 35 grand, then maybe .. 30 grand and it's a steal!
11-15-2002, 11:37 PM
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The new 330i will come out soon with added HP and I could get the old one a lot cheaper but I just dont think buying a old model for over $30k is worth it.. Its like buying a 2001 car for $35k. If your in the market for a new car than get a new top of the line car dont get the old model specially if your paying so much..
11-16-2002, 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by 2004TL
The new 330i will come out soon with added HP and I could get the old one a lot cheaper but I just dont think buying a old model for over $30k is worth it.. Its like buying a 2001 car for $35k. If your in the market for a new car than get a new top of the line car dont get the old model specially if your paying so much..
The new 330i will come out soon with added HP and I could get the old one a lot cheaper but I just dont think buying a old model for over $30k is worth it.. Its like buying a 2001 car for $35k. If your in the market for a new car than get a new top of the line car dont get the old model specially if your paying so much..
because I need a family sedan and the ferrari I WISH
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