Thinking of switching from stock single piston calipers to daul piston Legend or NSX?

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Old 07-03-2009, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
you cannot put bigger rotors on the TL without some major work, like trying to put brembos on requires new steering parts and brackets= the rotors are 1 inch diameter larger than a basic TL

Why not trust all of us with this mod and no problems? I appreciate research too, and once the majority has spoken...

The surface area being pushed by the fluid is not an issue to the master cyl
Plenty of power to spare on its part..well over a year on mine with no probs at all on the 01TL.
The smaller pistons of the nsx will not give the same pad pressure distribution that we really want, the weight transfer is negligble- I imagine the nsx stops a lot harder in its design as an ultracar- the TL being a family sedan sports car

Take a look at pics I have posted showing the new and old marks on pads- thats when it is obvious how well the larger piston edges depress the pads, and on the outer side there are 3 fingers to hold the pads flat as they are pulled into the rotor
TL caliper only has 2, one on each end- check it out

We dont need aluminum calipers- do you track race your car every day? constant 30 minutes to 90 minutes of full braking and full throttle- then do it again in a hour? probably not
Does a TL with legend calipers do well at track days= you bet!
on stock calipers and brake parts,, they are done for the day after 20 minutes
and come begging for your spare `good pads`
If the nsx were the way to go- several here with no budget limits would run them
There are real autocross champs and street racers on here to have knowledge of this

The 3 best mods (in lower cost cat.) to my car were also the cheapest-
legend calipers 150 for 2
kaixen headlights 110 pair
and the cusco lower frame crossbrace- 80 bucks
I could have bought other brands but research said these were best value for the dollar
Thank you a bunch bro u really know you sh()T!!
I though that you could not put larger rotors on w/o modding other stuff unlike these rotors but the guy that posted b4 said something about larger rotors so I though i would ask..
Thanks alot for all the INFO and I bet this wil help alot of other people that get sick of these crappy brake set up that acura put on the CL/TL that warps these rotors quick..
Like I said B4 when I first got the car acura turned the rotors 2-3 times for free cuz they had MAJOR problem with warping rotors causing the steering wheel to shake violently when you stoip harder and every flat rotor that I put on my car warper in less then a year The only rotors that didnt where the EBC dimpled and slotted w/ebc greenstuff pads but i NEVER REALLY WHOUGH ABOUT CHANGING THE CALIPERS..
reason being I though it was gonna be a $1K job I did not know that these 2 deul pistons where plug and play w/oiur rotors and pads untill operationdarko posted his NSX upgrade in the CL forum so that got me searching..
Thanks again for everythink and this thread should help alot of people cuz it does have some great info in it!
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Actually you can put larger rotors on without modding a bunch of stuff. All you need is caliper relocating brackets. Thats how the BBK kits work.
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^ told you.

As for the Aluminum vs cast iron question, they are NOT aluminum. Common misunderstanding.

It comes from Comptech having offered a 4-piston caliper upgrade in the past which was made of aluminum, but not the stock ones. Also rotora has an aluminum 4-piston upgrade for the NSX as well. Neither will work on the TL as they have custom brackets, and you wont find the comptech kit anymore
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Are u sure they are not aluminum?
I read in a couple places that they were, I can , and usally am wrong.
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I'm positive. It's not so much that you were wrong but more due to, as you said, websites providing false information claiming the NSX to have "forged aluminum calipers".

An example of such a page is:
http://www.ultimatecarcollection.com/acura.htm
- "The brake calipers and most of the doublewishbone suspension parts are gorgeous aluminum forgings." - Incorrect

Hondanews.com, owned and operated by Honda, provides archived information for every Acura model since the brand's creation in 1986.

Hondanews - Acura NSX Chassis/Suspension:
1991 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/2602
1992 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/3200
1993 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/2968
1994 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/3236
1995 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/2604
1996 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/3314
1997 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/2629
1998 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/836
1999 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/2693
2000 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/696
2001 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/41
2002 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/621
2003 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/1035
2004 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/1423
2005 - http://www.hondanews.com/categories/774/releases/2115

1991:
"The NSX is equipped with 4-wheel ventilated disc brakes and dual piston steel calipers. The diameter of the front and rear discs are 282 mm (11.1 in.). Total brake swept area is 2960sq cmand the swept area to weight ratio is 1966.8sq cmlton.
Aluminum calipers were considered, but their larger size, compared to steel, would have created the need for larger wheels which, in turn would have increased the amount of kingpin offset. Greater offset would have a negative impact on steering feel, kickback and ride quality.It was also found that aluminum calipers produced unfavorable side effects such as caliper flex and poor fade resistance."


1992 -1996:
"The NSX is equipped with 4-wheel ventilated disc brakes and dual piston steel calipers. The diameter of the front and rear discs are 282 mm (11 in.)."

1997:
"The NSX is equipped with 4-wheel ventilated disc brakes and dual-piston steel calipers. The diameter of the front and rear discs has increased for 1997: from 282 mm front and rear to 298 mm in the front and 303 mm in the rear. To accommodate the larger discs, new calipers have also been fitted. Combined with new piston sizes, a better braking balance has been achieved."

1998 - 2001:
"The NSX is equipped with 4-wheel ventilated disc brakes and dual-piston steel calipers. The diameter of the brake discs is 298 mm in the front and 303 mm in the rear."

2002 - 2005:
"the NSX is equipped with four-wheel ventilated disc brakes, dual-piston steel calipers in front and single-piston calipers in the rear. The diameter of the brake discs is 298 mm in the front and 303 mm in the rear."

Now you too can be the king of NSX brake systems
Hope this has helped
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