StuGots

Everyone,

Has anyone every had their TCS and Check Engine lights come on at the same time and stay on? It just started happening today, and has been staying on everytime I re-start the car on different trips throughout the day.
I checked it out in the manual, but it does not really get to in depth about what it might be.

Rpappi

thats a good sign your tranny just hit the pooper.
how is the shifting. has it been acting funny

fla-tls

Get the codes read. There's a good possibility it's the tranny - but it could be something else as well.

Also - it it's the tranny and those lights go on, your car may go into limp mode (where you have 2nd gear only). Like the prior poster wrote - is it shifting properly?

fsttyms1

NO its NOT. There are many things that would cause that. There is no need to start making him worry. The TCS light often goes on with the CEL. Its programed that way in the computer. Why i dont know. Ive had the TCS light come on with the cel for 3 other instances. the most common is the EGR insufficient flow.

Get your codes read and report back to us on what they are

djdonte

my 2003 s type did the same thing (vsa not tcs tho). Mine problem was malfuctioning knock sensor. or the rats ate at the wires... anywas my CEL is always on and the VSA light on comes on once i hit 35- 40 mph

djdonte

my 2003 s type did the same thing (vsa not tcs tho). Mine problem was malfuctioning knock sensor. or the rats ate at the wires... anywas my CEL is always on and the VSA light on comes on once i hit 35- 40 mph

03CoupeV6

I love how no matter what the symptom, there are always a few people who jump in and scream transmission.

EXAMPLE:

Post 1: Shit guys my passenger side HID light is flickering and the radio won't accept the code.

Reply: Looks like your tranny just bit the dust.

nerosurge

This happened to my '99 TL, the TCS and Check Engine lights came on, So I took it to my mechanic and he said that what the problem was the clutch master cylinder went bad. but at the same time so did my EGR valve, so it could be one of those two.

fla-tls

It's time for you to get a new mechanic. A clutch master cylinder only exists on a manual transmission car. No '99 TL has a manual transmission (unless fsttyms1 had something to do with it!)

Could be EGR - get the codes read.

PenancE

i vote egr, or misfire.

wilp99

mine did the same thing on the way to the shipping yard (shipped it to the u.k. theres 4 on base and i thought i was bein origional) anyways, it came out to be the o2 sensor. at the time i had just gotten my tranny changed about 1k miles before so i was pissed. but its aiit now.

Niko2000TL

ive had both lights come on twice before:

1st time: transmission shit the bed

2nd time: system running too lean (ended up being bad gas)

so get the codes read and let us know, could be something stupid like loose gas cap, or the worst - tranny gone

good luck

mbkulafu

That's what happened to me like a week ago...and you know what, its my damn transmission, so have to wait for the call from the dealership,dang.

djdonte

I got the stealership to fix my knock sensor. They said that it wasnt their fault the knock sensor went bad cause of the rats. (turned out to be true, they showed me the chewed wires) but i got them to pay 1/2 of the cost since i got the car 2 weeks ago.

StuGots

It was the EGR valve that was bad according to my local Acura dealership. They replaced it at no cost!

mbkulafu

Good for you dude...as for me, i'll be picking up my car at the dealership. They did the tranny for free too(cos of warranty of course)..so im excited again to have my car back tomorrow.

edesoto

Those same lights came on in my 99 TL a couple of weeks ago and it turned out to be the knock sensor, haven't got it fixed yet.

thinhthan303

my cel went on and i got it checked and it was a EGR insufficient flow. is it ok to drive with that or should i get it fixed. the dealer is trying to charge me like hundreds of dollars to fix that

Stimpy

you can continue to drive without serious worries....but they dont build monitoring systems into the car for nothing. plus it will only hurt your emissions/MPG in the end. i went a couple months before i decided to clean my EGR port, although i dont consider that to be sound advice - so dont take it.

as long as your at least slightly mechanically inclined, you can fix it yourself for free. do a search for EGR/throttle body spacers and you'll find the thread on how to do it. shouldnt take you more than a couple hours even if you dont have a clue what your doing to start out with.

thinhthan303

i called the dealer about it and it said they need to drill something? is that really nessassary

Stimpy

no. they will try and try to get you to think otherwise. their story is to ream out the port to make room for a small metal sleeve insert that they claim will ease future maintenance and save time... it literally only saves future maintenance time by about 1 minute...but then you need the xtra sleeve that the dealer wont have in stock anyway -- sooooo.....you end up paying more and waiting around for the sleeve.

once again: you can do it yourself for free.

thinhthan303

so i can just clean the manifold and it should be good to go nothing else right

Stimpy

yep.

thinhthan303

thanks ima try it i hope i dont mess up anything

aprilricki

I just came back from the dealership. I took the car there for my elderly mother. 2003 automatic TL. They said it needs and idle control valve. Parts and labour about 600. Scam?? Thx!

Karanx7

iTrader: (2)

Dude make your own thread for this kind of stuff, instead of rezzing a 6 year old one.

Total scam btw. The part brand new OEM is about $150, and the labor should be 1 hour MAX. So you're looking at a total of about $250, and that's pretty generous.

You could also just do it yourself in 20 minutes if you've worked on your car at all.

3.2TLc

Welcome Aprilricki !!!
Yeah, as Karanx7 previously posted.....if you're mechanically inclined and have some basic hand tools, ya can try removing the IAC valve and clean it. Many times this will work just fine. Check out the 2nd Gen's "DIY" sticky for more info on the procedure.

aprilricki

Never worked on a car before. Wouldn't attempt to do it. Thanks for the replies. Peace

Nicks2001tl

I think 600.00 is way to much to pay for the iacv valve. 250.00 sounds very reasonable. Shop around since you know what the problem is. Some independent shops in your neighborhood is a good start.

3.2TLc

Yeah, check with a local shop for better prices. They may be able to either clean the valve or replace it for much less than the dealership.
Maybe check around for the best online price for the valve and then take it to your mechanic for installation.