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Old 09-27-2001, 03:56 PM
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Supercharger Acura TL/CL -S

The Supercharger kit for the 1999-2002 V6 Accord, 2001-2002 CL &
CL-S, & 1999-2002 TL & TL-S is well under development. We look to have a
finalized version of the kit available sometime early in 2002.
Preliminary horsepower, technical & pricing information will not be released
until the kit is finalized and available to the public in 2002.
Just wondering if anyone know the HP increase of the Supercharger and the what the 1/4 mile increase and 0-60 increase should be?

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Re: Supercharger Acura TL/CL -S

Originally posted by BakedWafer
The Supercharger kit for the 1999-2002 V6 Accord, 2001-2002 CL &
CL-S, & 1999-2002 TL & TL-S is well under development. We look to have a
finalized version of the kit available sometime early in 2002.
Preliminary horsepower, technical & pricing information will not be released
until the kit is finalized and available to the public in 2002.
Just wondering if anyone know the HP increase of the Supercharger and the what the 1/4 mile increase and 0-60 increase should be?

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Look at what you just wrote to find the answer.
Old 09-27-2001, 04:40 PM
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Thats why I asked

IF ANYONE COULD GUESS WHAT THERE GONNA BE. Later
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figure approximately 100 hp at the crank will put a stock S into the 13s.
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if cls or tls will gain about 100 hp from the supercharge.i might want to consider to buy one and my cl-s will be rock and roll on the roads. so when will the SC be release?i believe it is from comptech.
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hmm...

well... typically superchargers give u 40% gain... sooooooo..

taking 260hp... + 40%..... =..... 364

hmmmmmm... i'll say that'll run 13's for sure
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0-60

ANY IDEA on 0-60 Times?
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Re: 0-60

Originally posted by BakedWafer
ANY IDEA on 0-60 Times?
i believe in 5 secs
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From what we've heard, and based on the longevity of our trannys, it will probably be in the 50hp. There's no way our tranny could handle 90-100 hp. Just look at all the stock TLs that have had to have their trannys replaced.
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I guess most of Comptech figuers are based on Dyno numbers.

With Bolt-ons, So far the 3.2L Engines has showed numbers from 200 to 245 Wheel HP.

Adding additional 75 Wheel HP would be put it in the 320 Wheel HP or 60% increase the output (i.e. 416 HP Total output!!)

Now I am sure that the AT-5 would never able to take this load! You need to have a re-built racing AT-5 done by an aftermarket supplier (like the level-10)

I think that that a SC application would cost some $5,000 to be safe and streetable.

Any thoughts, or ecperience on Supercharged AT application Auto Maximas (from Stillen)?
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My other thought is that they will offer the S/C only for the 6-speed CL. Maybe that's why it's taking so long. Hmmmm
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I have heard roomers that ALL Forced Inductioned CL-S/TL-S done by Rick Case Acura have their Auto Tranny failing....

I guess they would hold FI applications for 6-speed 03' Models.
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$5,000 ??? Way to pricey for the gain. Once could start from the ground up and build a engine with money left over. Not even close to being worth it or tempting IMO.
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Any decent SC should add atleast 80 to 100hp. If the 50hp and 5k$ predictions end up being true comptech will have a hard time selling these (atleast to me)!
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Originally posted by BLUBYU
Any decent SC should add atleast 80 to 100hp. If the 50hp and 5k$ predictions end up being true comptech will have a hard time selling these (atleast to me)!
Believe me. I'm sure Comptech would love to create a 100hp S/C, problem is they would spend more time in court with blown tranny lawsuits, then actually building S/Cs.
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Only an idiot would think they could sue a SC company, for the SC doing its job i.e making lots more HP. If this was true I know quite a few mustang guys who would like for vortech and paxton to pay for their trannys, axles etc. Unless Im missing the point, would the TLS still retain the factory warranty with the comptech, if so I understand your point. BTW im not calling YOU an idiot!!
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Without a doubt the S/C will give the TLS a 40-50hp gain at the crank. The tranny could never survive anything more. Why do you think the GTP supercharger adds only 40hp?? The transmission on the Grand Prix is solid too. Cost will be around $2k or less.
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Comptech most probably will charge $3,500 for the V-6 SC. Installation cost plus cost Tranny upgrade would be around $5,000.

Assuming that they would include Headers and their ICE box too.

But do you realy care to buy a SC for just 30 HP more on the wheels? So, you could do the 1/4 mile in 14.5sec!, you shave kust 0.5s! for $5,000
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Originally posted by BLUBYU
Only an idiot would think they could sue a SC company, for the SC doing its job i.e making lots more HP. If this was true I know quite a few mustang guys who would like for vortech and paxton to pay for their trannys, axles etc. Unless Im missing the point, would the TLS still retain the factory warranty with the comptech, if so I understand your point. BTW im not calling YOU an idiot!!
If it can be proven that the S/C caused the tranny failure, you can bet your last dime that people will be lined up around the block wanting a piece of Comptech.

Part of their liability is to prove that tests run on a typical Acura TL caused no severe damage to any standard part on the car, including the tranny. Knowing what we know, as well as what I'm sure Comptech knows about our fragile tranny, they wouldn't dare try to push too much HP through it.

I would imagine if anything in the 100hp range is available, it would have a huge caveat that requires consumers to have a performance tranny installed...or else.
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Originally posted by NSXNEXT


If it can be proven that the S/C caused the tranny failure, you can bet your last dime that people will be lined up around the block wanting a piece of Comptech.

Part of their liability is to prove that tests run on a typical Acura TL caused no severe damage to any standard part on the car, including the tranny. Knowing what we know, as well as what I'm sure Comptech knows about our fragile tranny, they wouldn't dare try to push too much HP through it.

I would imagine if anything in the 100hp range is available, it would have a huge caveat that requires consumers to have a performance tranny installed...or else.
They actually told me that our trannys are really bulletproof...now, think about it...they did dyno it on the v6 accord. Are you saying that the 4spd is more bulletproof than our trannys?? I read on max.org that Stillen does not sell an auto version of their SC...but one guy in SF has a rebuilt/upgraded tranny and runs it fine. I drive mine like an animal....and yet, I have had no problems with it...35K in less than a year will tell you what kind of abuse it had gone through. Just figure that all the guys who have had bad trannys are not due to hp/tq issues...it is more due to bad trannys. A lot of people who have had their trannys go out drive them like grandmas...so, who is to say that the power to the tranny is the problem and not just certain trannys that weren't built correctly!?!
I think we should start referring to them as Friday Trannys.
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Well Said !
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Originally posted by caddy
Well Said !
Just wanted to let everyone know..it's not the tranny in general, but more the individual ones...and if they are replaced under warranty...don't sweat it...a minor inconvience...but one that ensures you will, most likely, get a quality tranny.
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Nostradamus predicted that the supercharger will put out 800 hp and
blow up 1-3 gears. But, we should be ok driving around in 4th.

Any more rumors and I'm gonna puke.
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Originally posted by Closer
Nostradamus predicted that the supercharger will put out 800 hp and
blow up 1-3 gears. But, we should be ok driving around in 4th.

Any more rumors and I'm gonna puke.
well, I heard that.....blah blah blah Comptech blah blah blah blah blah blah Supercharger blah blah blah Rick Case blah blah blah blah blah blah Mystery Mod blah blah blah blah Cam Gear blah blah blah NOS blah blah blah blah blah Turbo'd blah blah blah CL/TL blah blah blah Tim blah blah blah blah blah blah ACP blah blah blah blah....
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Talking tranny

keep in mind that our tranny is the only part of the TL that is made in japan... i have faith in it

i used to have a jackson racing supercharged civic EX automatic... i abused the crap out of it... N-dropped it... break launched it... everything... and the tranny held up just fine... it was the engine that blew :P

i really think the TLS tranny would be stronger built than a civic... afterall... type S = type sport... right? honda can't be that stupid as to build a sport sedan w/ a lousy tranny

the key would be moderation... nothing over the edge and the car should do just fine
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Re: tranny

Yeah but civics only put out 130hp. Big diff from 260. Who wants moderation

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keep in mind that our tranny is the only part of the TL that is made in japan... i have faith in it

i used to have a jackson racing supercharged civic EX automatic... i abused the crap out of it... N-dropped it... break launched it... everything... and the tranny held up just fine... it was the engine that blew :P

i really think the TLS tranny would be stronger built than a civic... afterall... type S = type sport... right? honda can't be that stupid as to build a sport sedan w/ a lousy tranny

the key would be moderation... nothing over the edge and the car should do just fine
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Wink hahaa

hence the old saying...

"if you're not breaking parts... you're not making enough power"
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