Anyone know times on Supercharged TL's?
0-60
1/4 mile
HP?
Stuff like that. Thanks.

 

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have you checked comptech's website? They may have some performance numbers there. I would search the forum though to find some real dyno readings of the kind of WHP the kit makes.

 

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Mid-Low 13s with the High Boost Pulley and Comptech Headers. It also depends on how strong of a TL you got from the factory. Not all TLs are created equal

 

WTF are you talking about?? 260hp is 260hp and 232lb-ft is 232lb-ft... It's the DRIVER that counts man. Also best times I heard a TL run are high 13s with the S/C. No traction until 3rd gear FWD.

 

I've seen a SC TL-S running 13.6 at the track. He had the usual i/h/e but I don't recall him saying he had pulleys, but he did have a B-pipe. Not to mention he was running with a system in his trunk and on 18s and this was during the daytime. As for myself, I was running 15.2-15.3 in the extreme heat at the track, but dipped into the 15.0 and probably would have done 14.8 easily as the heat slowly dropped as night approached. So Mid-low 13s is probably the best you could get out of the usual mods.

 

What 2K2SilverTL-S means is that not all TL-S comes out with exactly 260HP from the factory. It's been documented that a TL-S on the dyno will put out around 195 - 200 WHP. This variance is due to comparing different stock TL-S on the dyno. So what 2K2SilverTL-S says is potentially true, not all TL-S are created equal. If you get a stronger TL-S (one with 200 WHP), you have a higher platform to produce higher gains than say a weaker TL-S (at only 195 WHP). Having said that, the difference of 5 WHP won't make a huge difference in terms of performance.

But you are correct, a good driver is one factor that cannot be discounted. A good driver in a crummy car will always beat a poor driver in a good car.

 

I don't understand.. Why don't they just make all of them with 200whp? The 05s should be 240

 

well its kinda hard to do that.. think about it, these cars, well any cars, are being mass produced. its nearly impossible to make cars millimeter by millimeter identical. there will be errors and mistakes and being off by only a few hp isnt really a mistake at all, just that some were made just slightly with more power than the other, but it wont make a difference depending on feel from a driver's perspective, so the 5hp higher putout on the lucky tl's wont change the difference to us drivers, but it will affect the spec numbers, but just slightly.. something close to a few milliseconds.

 

sorry, i strongly disagree. all the parts in our cars are mass manufactured and are practically identicle. yes, i agree that the parts are not 100% exactly the same.... but they're probably around 99.99% identicle... enough to cause a whp differnece of maybe .5 whp at most, NOT 5 whp. the reason that you see the 5 whp difference on dynos is because dynos typically aren't very accurate machines, especially when you're comparing dynos from different manufacturers.

Sorry, but theres definitly no such thing as a "stronger" or "weaker" tl

 

Actually, your post is what is lame. It's been well documented in numerous highly respected car mags that there are variances between cars of the same make and model, more so than a difference of .5 whp. Do some research. So, STFU !

 

I was stressing the point that there are differences between stock TL-S. My understanding of the dyno results is that the same dyno manufacturer was used in the tests. Obviously, different dyno manufacturers will give different dyno results for the same vehicle.

Is 5 WHP difference between identical cars a lot? Is the performance difference really that noticeable? Maybe 5 WHP is on the high side as you say, but on the flip side, 0.5 WHP I would say is on the low side...I say no way you can have manufacturers make every single TL off the line with only 0.5 WHP difference. Maybe 1 to 2 WHP difference is more like it, maybe a little more. And if true, this difference still falls in between 1 and 5 WHP, which is the range I mentioned.

But really, the only way to really know if every single TL that comes off the assembly line has the same WHP is if you dyno every single TL. And until someone like you does a sample testing using statistics to prove that the difference is really 0.5 WHP, 5 WHP difference between identical stock TL-S (IMHO) is an acceptable number based on dyno results posted here and other forums.

 

I agree that the results of your vehicles whp can be affected by mass producing. my 2003 TL-S came out of the factory with 250whp! go figure! i guess my piston rings must have been placed in the best possible locations! Sort of like how i was born with a big honking johnson. I guess the planets were aligned just right. Anyways I put on a comptech S/C and Headers, now my TL-S produces over 300 at the wheels! Now the "S" in TL-S stands for Stang Eater! I also had to weld my drivers seat hinges because the G-forces off the line kept breaking the hinges where the seat back pivots and i would go flying into the back seat!

 

 

Nice first post. Welcome

 

The way the car is broken in and maintained plays the biggest part in how much power it will make, or still make when it's older.

 

Wow puff and pass..

 

lol, wtf. my tl is a factory freak and produced 250whp stock, then I add I/H/P/E/S and now have 395whp and my tl goes 0-60 in 4.0 secs and 1/4 in 12.8@110. pretty damn fast and it also flies! lol

 

Lawl... whoever wins the argument can add NOT 5 ... but 6 HP to their car for being awesome

 

umm.... TL's FTW!

 

my car does the 0-60 in -4.0... it actually goes back in time.. they made a few movies about it...

 

LMFAO

 

True story. His heavy ass subs in the back are the formula. You poor olive oil in and his car makes a crazy noise and next thing you know youre on the autobahn.

 

dude wtf you werent supposed to tell anyone how it works... jerk.

 

Sorry bro... The plan was so genius that I couldnt keep it to myself anymore. Is there anyway you can forgive me?

 

lol nice one. i thought i was the only one with a 250whp off the line

the structurs of cars come off the line laser precision to thounsandths of an inch....

now the question is, how about the engine? i bet they dont.

i work on reciprocating engines on planes and i know for a fact they dont come off the line laser precised (and planes are 10 times more sophisticated)

 

yea i actually saw your car man.


howd you get the turbine engine in your trunk though? =]

DIY anytime soon on that?

 

you think that is something, my stock Tl actually does high 16's believe it or not....which most of you wont believe.

 

so back to blown TLs..off the subject of 2% hp difference on stock cars

 

rofl... I wonder how many VTEC stickers will make it drop another tick

 

remember kids... its not about how many vtec stickers, but where you place them... its better aerodynamics

 

Hey now....I was talking with some younger guys last week.....the concensus with them is...its now puff puff and pass. Figure the odds....that was a total bogart in my days!

 

No its Puff Puff.... Give

And explain to me what needed welding? and what kept breaking. In the small pic is teh hole the bolt goes thru to attach the back and i can guarantee that neither of those are breaking. and the large circle is the power recline with the seat back bracket attached, and i can guarantee that thats not breaking either.

 

You gotta love this thread.

so damn funny!

 

whoa i was just kidding fsttyms1! you dident have to pull the whole seat to investigate the failed part! were you thinking of maybe contacting acura to start a new recall??!!! LOL

 

He was just proving a point man... youre not special enough for fst to pull his seats apart for

 

Dont worry i didnt. That was from a past project of me making the seat go back 2 more inches