PeterUbers

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Hey man,

Nah, I don't really care to race a VR6 specifically, but if one pulls up next to while I'm drivin' one day .. hehe.. s'all over.

The 320 is doing very well for us --> the 4-matic is awesome in the snow and rain .. At full throttle, that tranny does seem to shift faster than the TL-S, but then again, it isn't redlinin at more than 6200 rpm .. it has a strong pull from 3300->5600 .. great powerband, but this car is nothing more than a luxury cruiser .. no racing intended, until you get into the ///AMG line-up .. not even the E430 is geared to race .. top-end on that car is pretty sweet though! I hope yer mom gets one .. maybe even the new version that's coming out.. you'll love it. Best of luck.

Pimpin_TL

naw she already bought an 01. Silver with charcoal - one reason i didn't get it for my TL. But guess what... the dealer offered the exact same car but with AMG kit for the same price. She refused because it was more 'uncomfortable'. I was like dyam! the AMG was phat i thought. NE ways, Benz may be my next car. Thats Pimp.

Ruski

I have seen some posts here saying that the poster had raced a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP. But it did not mention who won.

Also I have noticed that many other posters have been picking on lesser cars, in terms of horsepower (A4 2.8 for example)

PeterUbers

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I mentioned that the GTP was one of my wishlist cars to race .. so to speak. I have in fact raced, several times, my friend and his Buick Regal GS (in controlled settings). It's a dead-even heat b/w the TL-S and the Regal. However, my car is more broken in now (I only raced w/ 540 miles at the time, now I have 3000). I'd imagine I'd get about 1/2 car length to 1/4-mile, no more. BTW, if you know then ignore this, but his car has the same 240hp/280lb-ft S/C engine from the GTP --> both cars perform the same.

Pete

Ruski

hehehe, I know

However some people latch onto the magazine numbers that show 6.6 seconds for Regal GS and only 6.8 seconds for the GTP.

I should go test drive a TL-S soon and see for myself.

RX-72ATL-S

I'm putting it in the paper for $21,700 O.B.O
It's a 94 Touring Model, 5spd, 41,800 miles. Brand new crate motor w/turbos with 1,500 miles on it. One of the turbos had a small crack in it causing low boost, and while they were replacing it they found that the motor had borderline compression. So the warranty company gave me a new motor and new turbos. It's stock besides a Downpipe. And runs better than ever. It's also still under warranty for one more year or 12,000 miles. I have all the service records. Thank god I did, because the dealership had me show all my records before they would cover it. They spent $8163.00 total. And I had a 0 deductible. The car basically is brand new. I can send you pics if you want. It's an awesome car...sniff sniff. I hate to have to sell it. Any questions let me know. I've got everything for it.



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thephantom

No one is picking on the "lesser" car, if you are at a light and the 2.8 looks over and wants to take a shot at your new TL-S, why not? Hey, it's all fun and game until someone gets hurt... ego that is.

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RUF87

Phantom,

Fresh off the quest.

I was watching a couple of teens, one in a TransAm (non-W6) and a Dodge RT10 pickup testing each other. As they made their turn on to a 3 lane road I snuck up in the right lane. They didn't see me and I kept it in SS mode 2nd gear about 4500RPM and waited. When they nailed it I nailed it and pulled both of them to 80MPH.

As I turned my eyes to see if they even noticed, both of them where looking over at me like "what the heck???".

Fun Fun Fun till the misses catches me. :-)

RUF87

Actually there is a way.

My uncle has owned several and if they aren't maintained and run up regularly, they perform worse than a base 98 Porsche.

So a very poor driver and equally poor car and you have a win. ;-)

thephantom

Thanks, Ruf!

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Sleeper_RENAMED

I raced a GTP and won without too much drama. I have 2000TL. I wouldnt call it an all out race. We raced from a dead stop to about 75-80. I won by ~4car lengths. The gap between us continuously increased but the rate that the gap widened decreased with speed. We dipped into the throttles again from a rolling start. I beat him again but more convincingly. I guess I just caught the sweet spot the second time.

thephantom

Nice kill!

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Guest

quote from bitium...
Some luck yes, a lot of skills and guts of course.
.......

notice that you do not mention brains.

thephantom

TLinBama raced a cop!

Check this out if you haven't heard.
http://www.acura-tl.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/001581.html



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RUF87

In to the lion's den. Well almost.

I wanted to see how bad it really was for us TLS owners going up against a M3 or 540.

I thought I'd get to kill two birds with one run. (or get killed that is) I ran in to a M3 and 540 running down the tollway and the M3 seemed a little playful, but the 540 was in the wrong hands.

Turns out neither really had it in them and we had pretty clear running for a few miles.

Maybe they thought they were too cool to get caught running an Acura. ;-)

Sigh, maybe next time.

PeterUbers

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I'm gunna be the B.S. police here and say .. no, you didn't. You raced a GrandPrix GT, w/ the non-S/C engine. If you feel better "thinking" you beat a supercharged Pontiac, so be it. Oh, and even if you have every mod for the 2000TL -- it's still only gunna be a little slower than a TL-S, and

General comment:
I've done runs w/ that Supercharged engine countless times (my friend's Buick Regal GS), and there is NO circumstance where I've ever been 4 carlengths ahead of him .. barely 1/4 carlength AT BEST! That engine has tons of potential w/ better rubber and lower profile rims.

thephantom

Peter,

Do you have a TL or S? Did you mod your TL? I would hate to be beaten by a Pontiac.

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PeterUbers

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Phantom --

Type S .. I'd rather have an ES300 over the base TL. Those extra 35 ponies were enough for me to plop down another $2K!

If the GTP had better stock tires (wider, low profile, 17" like on the GTX) There is no doubt the GTP would jump off-the-line by 1.5 to 2 carlengths against a TL-S. But then again, it doesn't come w/ that option, so it's all good, we'll still beat 'em by 1/2 carlength to 100 from a complete stop. However, depending on traction, it could go either way to 100mph.

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Parchment

thephantom

Peter,

You have no mods on your S?



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RedLined

I was on the interstate when a Jetta (I guess VR6 -- it had no emblems) started tailing me for awhile. I decided I wanted to leave him so I punched it. I must say I was a little disappointed. He dropped off a bit a first but pretty much just stayed w/ me on up to about 125. We came up on some other traffic so I slowed back down. I would have expected to just keep increasing the gap, but it just didn't happen. Maybe because I only had about 1k on my TL-S, I don't know, but very surprising.

thephantom

Wait till you hit around 12-16K then you should feel the difference. The thing is, the Jettas are pretty light cars and if it was a VR6, they are tough to beat.

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ucla107

cars i wanna race:

BMW 330i / 330Ci
MB CLK430 / CLK430 Cabriolet
MB C320
MB E430
Lexus GS400

cars I wanna (but don't dare) to race:

BMW M3
Audi S4
MB E55

RUF87

Go ahead and race some of the faster cars. Chances are that you'll lose, but that one time you win because of you and not the car you'll feel just as good.

It's always a great feeling beating someone you shouldn't. I have to admit it. I actually look for the tougher races. It's no fun beating up on cars you should beat.



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thephantom

Let's do it, I am going to race a vette this weekend... if I can find one.

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RUF87

I've noticed that most Vet owners are too busy driving with their noses in the air to notice a little ol TLS. It's just a Honda to them.

I've been on the prowl for a Trans-Am and got real close to a Z28, but he bailed out. Sigh!

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thephantom

Trans-AM, I would love to meet up with one of those and see how fast they really are.

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Edr0e

Ive beat numerous cars...
Audi A4 1.8t
Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-t
SLK COMPRESSOR
Mercedes S420
Integra GSR ( HEH! )
BENZ E320
V6 ACCORD ( WOW BEAT ME PRETTY BAD! HE HAD NITROUS, HEADERS, STRAIGHT PIPE, INTAKE, ETC.
Camaro Rs
Maxima 5 speed
SO MANY MORE!

Sleeper_RENAMED

So dont believe me. I just cant resist qualifying my statements to a critic. I do know what a GTP is. Unless I am confused about the letters "GTP" on the side of the car and the fatty tires. A drag race may have been a different story but like I said it wasnt an all out race. I have no idea what year the GTP was but looked to be in good condition. Maybe the newer ones are faster. Besides no two cars are built exactly the same. However, I would expect less variability among Jap cars. It is possible that my pampered TL breathes a little healthier in certain sweet spots than your ragged out TL-S. hehe

Besides its kind of nonsensical to talk about drag racing a Buick or a TL. No matter how you look at neither are very fast.
No offense to anyone. Dont get me wrong I love my TL and the smooth power delivery. I also have a '93 5.0 notchback. I have a few bolt ons and keep it tuned well, healthy, and happy and it will run 13.3's in the 1/4mile. Granted it is(was) a rattlebox and not built very well. I have raced nearly identical Mustangs with the same setup or more and have beaten them by far. Not just once but over and over again. My point is that no two cars of the same make are exactly the same.