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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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Springs & Coilivers between in 2003 TL-S?

hi guyz,is there any difference between lower springs n coilivers???....which one will drop more...???
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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coil overs will usually allow a lower drop due to them being adjustable height
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Springs only replace the springs. Coilovers replace the entire strut assembly.

Springs are not height-adjustable. Coilovers are height-adjustable, and depending on model, damping-adjustable.

Eibach Pro-kit or H&R Race springs drop the car by 2 inches or more. Coilovers also have the capability to go that low, or even lower.

Of course, coilovers are much more expensive.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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i know coilovers is much more expensive than springs.....and i used Tein Spring to drop my TL....now i wanna change to Tein coilovers....should i go for that?
is it drop much more than wut i had now?
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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coilovers in the grand scheme of things arent much more money.... although most people dont, you are supposed to replace the struts (shocks) when you lower a car. stock struts arent designed to work with a lower ride height. if you replace the struts and the springs your looking at appox $850. springs $250, struts $600 (about $150 per corner for good quality) coilovers from tein for the tl run approx $1000, so if you replace the stuts and springs your only saving approx $150 dollars or so for the adjustable ride hieght
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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The coilovers can be much lower than springs overall. The reason why you would get a Coilover is 1)Lowering 2)Suspension and Turning Capability has improved 3)Your OEM shocks are dead. The ride..may however differ between each settings...while a spring is just for lowering and the quality of the ride is set. Having springs will shorten the life spam of your OEM struts. So..if you have the money get Coilovers, if you are just going for lowering your car..get Springs. Springs will give you a better handling, but not a BIG difference as a Coilover/Sways. Also, with the Coilover, you get to control the height difference of the drop, while the springs you can't.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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which mean if i just want to lowering of my TL-S,should i just go for springs?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 01:33 AM
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is it if i just change springs,my OEM struts shocks will dead faster,right??
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:06 AM
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is it if i just change springs,my OEM struts shocks will die faster,right??
Truth.

Check out the pics in my sig for the effect that Tein SS can do for your vehicle.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:27 AM
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I am getting the Apexi coilovers, can't wait to get them!!!
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:28 AM
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AsianRage:
u use springs or coilovers to lowering ur TL-S???is it only springs??......cuz its not that lower......i guess coilovers will drop more than that.......
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:30 AM
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samkws:
why u r choosing Apexi coilovers???....why dun u pick Tein SS Coilovers??....its look more good than that.......
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:33 AM
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u use springs or coilovers to lowering ur TL-S???is it only springs??......cuz its not that lower......i guess coilovers will drop more than that.......
Tein SS is a coilover system. My point was to show that while Tein will allow you to go lower than my drop (which is comparable to H&R Sport, as shown in the finger gap test) you will gain better ride quality. Something a regular spring drop will never give.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 03:52 AM
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samkws:
why u r choosing Apexi coilovers???....why dun u pick Tein SS Coilovers??....its look more good than that.......
500 shipped for Apexi coilovers brand new!!!

why not??

tein SS is like over 1000 in canada, so i don't even bother

with the difference i can arleady get myself a Comptech exhaust or icebox and some change~
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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AsianRage:
so which mean u drop your TL-S with only springs,right?
so Coilovers will drop more than that,right?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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samkws:
hey....i drop my TL with only Tein Springs......should i go for coilovers??....wut do u think?
cuz i saw some TL with coilovers its look more better...??...

u drive TL-S or A Spec?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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I'm going with the Tein coilovers I have a buddy with them and they are sick.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jput
I'm going with the Tein coilovers I have a buddy with them and they are sick.
wut do u mean?....they are sick??....so is Tein coilovers good for TL?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
samkws:
hey....i drop my TL with only Tein Springs......should i go for coilovers??....wut do u think?
cuz i saw some TL with coilovers its look more better...??...

u drive TL-S or A Spec?
of coz coilovers are better since it's more balanced

but only if you have the money to do at one time

the Tein SS coilovers are over 1100 CAD in most places

the Apexi will cost you way less, around 650CAD

btw i have a 02 TLP
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by samkws
of coz coilovers are better since it's more balanced

but only if you have the money to do at one time

the Tein SS coilovers are over 1100 CAD in most places

the Apexi will cost you way less, around 650CAD

btw i have a 02 TLP
so which will u choose for coilover then??
which one is better??
n how long will coilover last for.....?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
so which will u choose for coilover then??
which one is better??
n how long will coilover last for.....?
i bought the apexi, since it's a real deal~

only 650CAD shipped it's even cheaper than springs/shocks replacement

and it's height adjustable

however it cannot change the softness, just one setting, but it's gd for daily driving~

the Apexi are very gd, but the Tein is just superior, however i won't pay that price for such coilovers, while the Apexi is already 90% of the Tein

if you want to buy the Apexi i can hook you up on a group buy but it will close on wednesday

you will get that b4 the christmas...hopefully
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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acutually i got a set of H&R sports springs for sale and they are sitting at vancouver now~

most of the TL members have that set up with their car and it comes close with the coilovers except you cannot adjust the height~

if you want them i can give you a gd price and you can pick them up right away, it's in vancouver... how does that sound?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by samkws
acutually i got a set of H&R sports springs for sale and they are sitting at vancouver now~

most of the TL members have that set up with their car and it comes close with the coilovers except you cannot adjust the height~

if you want them i can give you a gd price and you can pick them up right away, it's in vancouver... how does that sound?
i dun want just springs.....cuz i already drop my car by Tein springs.....right now i want to change it to coilovers
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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Buddy, you shoudv'e gotten the coilovers to begin with. Get the Teins SS Coilovers then...they are very good.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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Just thought I'd chime in...

For those of you in the snow belt... and are thinking of coilovers and drive your cars in winter... you can probably say good bye to the height adjustability after a winter season....

The reason is they rust and then become hard to adjust. Back in the day I was talking to Astroboy, and he had Zeals on his so he knows... and also the rust on my older COMPTECH's proved it... (although they were defective to begin with they still shows that it rusts a lot quicker here due to SALT !), he said something to the effect that if its NOT a daily driver then coilovers are ok... but did not reccomend it as a dialy driver.

If all you are going to do is set once and then not touch it then you should be fine... but then why not just get springs and shocks ?

Also keep in mind that whenever you "play" with the height it will throw your alignment off... so you'll need an alignment.

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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TLS RULZ
Just thought I'd chime in...

For those of you in the snow belt... and are thinking of coilovers and drive your cars in winter... you can probably say good bye to the height adjustability after a winter season....

The reason is they rust and then become hard to adjust. Back in the day I was talking to Astroboy, and he had Zeals on his so he knows... and also the rust on my older COMPTECH's proved it... (although they were defective to begin with they still shows that it rusts a lot quicker here due to SALT !), he said something to the effect that if its NOT a daily driver then coilovers are ok... but did not reccomend it as a dialy driver.

If all you are going to do is set once and then not touch it then you should be fine... but then why not just get springs and shocks ?

Also keep in mind that whenever you "play" with the height it will throw your alignment off... so you'll need an alignment.

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i had change the springs already for my TL.....but what i want now is to change the stocks or coilovers.....cuz right now its not that good....u understand?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by WiLLs TypE S
Buddy, you shoudv'e gotten the coilovers to begin with. Get the Teins SS Coilovers then...they are very good.
i m thinking about to choose Tein SS Coilovers or Apexi Coilovers man....which one will better?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
i m thinking about to choose Tein SS Coilovers or Apexi Coilovers man....which one will be better?
Apexi gives only height adjustment.
Tein SS gives you a chance to adjust the dampening level in addition to the height adjustment.
Tein SS is a better choice if you want to be able to refine your ride quality. But you will pay for it. If you like the ride as it is now with your Tein S spring, then just go with the Apex'i .

Here's an alternate idea: track down a set of adjustable Tokico Illumina struts and shock for the Accord V6 and you can have dampening adjustment w/o buying a completely new system....
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
Apexi gives only height adjustment.
Tein SS gives you a chance to adjust the dampening level in addition to the height adjustment.
Tein SS is a better choice if you want to be able to refine your ride quality. But you will pay for it. If you like the ride as it is now with your Tein S spring, then just go with the Apex'i .

Here's an alternate idea: track down a set of adjustable Tokico Illumina struts and shock for the Accord V6 and you can have dampening adjustment w/o buying a completely new system....
okay....so if i choose th eApexi one ,will it drop more than wut i have right now?
like will Apexi drop more than my Tein Springs?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
okay....so if i choose th eApexi one ,will it drop more than wut i have right now?
like will Apexi drop more than my Tein Springs?
i remember you can drop up to 6 inches

you can slam it to the ground
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