which companies make a short ram for our 2003 tl type s cause im low and dont want cold air, but cant seem to find short ram intakes for my car.

 

i believe they have a weapon r intake for it. even if ur low a cai won't really get water in it unless ur in a 2 ft puddle... in that case im sure you wouldn't have to worry about what type of intake

 

really? people have always told me short ram is better, ive had a few friends who had cold air suck up water and f***ed their motor, and they werent as low as me.

 

short ram is just sound. it sucks up all the hot air in the engine bay. cold air ftw even though i'm stock! but most people will tell you to get a cai

 

dude, go cold air, esp since you had the thread "what numbers would i put down" sounds like you want the most performance, short ram will only hinder you.

 

exactly. Talk to James, he was telling me on Saturday that his SRI sounded the best, but thats about it. Go CAI or go home.

 

Plus if you see how they are installed in the car even if your car is low it shouldnt be anything to worry about. Go CAI.

 

every cai on the market makes it sit in your lower bumper, how will it not suck up water?

 

if i'm correct, the comptech icebox sits where the oem filter is, the piping just goes into the lower bumper.

 

Because its basically completely enclosed in there, so unless you are driving through a puddle it won't suck up any water. And, not only does it need to be a DEEEEP puddle, but it would take a while for any water to get into that compartment, plus once you get out of this really deep puddle the water will escape the same way in which it entered that under-bumper compartment....Through the gaps and holes. A drop of water here and there will not have any effect, because it wouldn't even permeate the filter, especially the ones with hydrolock or hydrogaurd, etc...

 

AEM, Injen, and Weapon R all make SRIs for our cars.

Generally, if you want sound go for SRI. If you want performance go for CAI.

One question though. In a CAI, is there any air velocity lost since it is a longer pipe? I feel like a SRI will suck air in faster than a CAI because the SRI acts as a ram air intake. The air will have to travel a longer distance in a CAI, thus losing some velocity. Hopefully someone understands what im saying...

 

I don't think that any velocity is lost due to the longer pipe, if anything it would be the bends in the pipe. The pipe itself is so nicely bored out and so smooth that length shouldn't make a difference....
And even if it did, the sri takes in hot air from the engine bay, while the cai takes cool, dense air...So lets say for conversations sake that the cai brings less velocity, it also has colder, denser air which is more power as it is.

 

Get a CAI like the rest of others in here suggest. You'd have to drive through more than a foot of water for it to suck any type of water. Splash guards at the bottom of the car help prevent water also.

 

get a cheap sri from ebay like i did! jk. its not bad though. just my

 

im thinking about getting the comptech ice box, does anyone know if it puts out a good amount of power?

 

I would say <10whp. Just a guesstimate.

 

Think about it for a second. Unless you are driving thru water that is deeper than the filter you wont suck in water. Puddles splashing and rain will not effect it. (unless you are driving around without a fender liner on which is stupid in the first place with a cai)

Again, see video. Filter bone dry afterwards.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvqc6wcng_g

 

lmao at the video Kris

 

I gotta tell you that from experience, the short ram intake really doesn't do much for performance--> but yes, with the intake resonator delete, of course; it sounds great. And yes, it does sound different from a cold air intake- with a short ram you hear a slight hiss when you just tap the accelerator, cruising around 2,000 rpm.

I've since taken it off - it just gets dirty too quick. If you MUST do a short ram, your best chances of getting the most out of it would be to use a K&N.

 

To prevent the slightest traces of water being sucked up, attach a 3" air intake bypass valve. They have it really cheap on eBay ( < $20 shipped). But to attach it, you might have to saw then reattach your CAI if it's a one piece unit.

Like others said, CAI is way better, the longer tube gives it a deeper growl as the sound waves cover more distance as they travel up (fact). And with a K&N filter at the other end !

 

i have the weapon R dragon SRI and love it. def can feel the performance aspect and the sound is rediculous. you honestly dont even need exhuast work. gives a beastly growl and sounds like you have a good size BOV under the hood

 

i wont believe what anyone says about the hp difference til i see it on a dyno. just me though!

 

well you guys thinkk a cai is better than a comtech ice box, and its the same principal as a cai jus with the filter in the stock location

 

The comptech has shown to make more power on the dyno than the other CAIs, it just doesnt give the sound or look of a cai that most want

 

Put simply its common sense, Our car is no different than any other car which has been proven before that short rams (especially those that have let the engine compt stay warm like real world driving) make less power. Its Proven that warm air creates less power than cooler air or do you not believe that?`

 

i believe that yea i dont really care for the sound that much so ill probly go with the comtech icebox

 

great thread i was also debating on sri or cai, but now i want a cai. how much can i expect to pay for one.

 

200-350

 

Actually if you're just wanting a pipe that's long enough to pick up the cold air underneath the car - any pipe will do. I think there's a SPYDER CAI that's pretty cheap, around 70 bucks shipped. Last time I checked, I think it's a metal pipe.

Well if you want to make sure that the air inside the pipe stays cold, you can always wrap it with a bit of insulation tape. So just get that and a 3" (I think!) K & N filter at the end and you're good to go.

 

i just installed my injen intake sunday and i'm quite satisfied.

 

I know this thread is old, but for the sake of getting cold air to the engine, say you get a hood with a hood scoop or whatever its called, at the air where the short ram would be, won't it be able to take in cold air as well and give the same power ??? I'm just curious

 

At the area **

 

Short ram is inside the engine compartment where the engine is creating lots of heat. This is where the short ram gets its air. Cold air intake is in the fender well by the bumper where the heat of the engine doesn't really reach plus colder air is naturally lower.

 

Ohhhhh okay ok that makes sense

 

Plus if you're still nervous about the water they make a filter "dry wrap" for the AEM filters. For our cars model you need the 1-4000. It's a pre filter and it's treated with a water resistant chemical so splashes and general light water rolls off it plus it will keep leaves an other debris off your filter. You'll have to go under and clean it less which is nice. In Milwaukee between all the trash outside and in fall all the leaves I'm glad I got one for mine. If you get one just watch how much dirt comes down when you pull back the splash guards.

 

Regarding what tri2tun said abort the spyder intake pipe AMD a k&n filter would that be smart if you're on a budget ?

 

Would it even make a difference?

 

The AEM V2 for the 2nd Gen is a good intake I've heard.

 

short ram sucks light/thin hot air. save your money and keep your oem setup.

POD Filters Mythbusted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PAIxeQUSg-Q