Sabering the TL....?
10-09-2010, 11:07 AM
#1
-TL Love-
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Sabering the TL....?
I've seen this post:
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-photograph-gallery-99/saber-up-793672/
and it really made me rethink the whole Saber concept. But, in order for me to badge a TL into a Saber i need some info on the car and so far what I know is that the Saber was for the first gen TL and then it became the Inspire I believe (?)
Is there a way to turn a 2000 TL into the Saber? would it be something along the lines of having the Honda badge and the Saber Grille and just Saber badge on it?
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-photograph-gallery-99/saber-up-793672/
and it really made me rethink the whole Saber concept. But, in order for me to badge a TL into a Saber i need some info on the car and so far what I know is that the Saber was for the first gen TL and then it became the Inspire I believe (?)
Is there a way to turn a 2000 TL into the Saber? would it be something along the lines of having the Honda badge and the Saber Grille and just Saber badge on it?
10-09-2010, 01:28 PM
#2
OVER RATED!!! Whats up with everyone trying to turn it into a "saber" or "inspire"? Its the same freakin car! Why the hell do people always want it to be "oh so JDM as F*ck"?
"ACURA 3.2 TL" badge > "HONDA INSPIRE" badge all day
"ACURA 3.2 TL" badge > "HONDA INSPIRE" badge all day
10-09-2010, 04:51 PM
#6
To answer the OP's question, for the 2nd gen TL's (1999-2003) the Honda equivalent had 2 models in japan. The inspire and the saber. Both came in Type-S variants. The saber base came with a smaller 2.5 engine while the inspire base came with the 3.2. The saber base also had cloth interior etc. There are many things you can do to convert your tl, it just depends how much detail you want to go into. Obviously you won't be converting it to right hand drive, but you can do things like rear emblems, front grill, rear spoiler, door sills, shift knob, airbag, pillar emblems, side marker lights on the front fender. For the 99-01 you can get the jdm bumper with comes with factory fog lamps, but you will need the jdm bumper bar as well since its smaller. Also for 99-01 if u did the bumper conversion you will need a jdm front under spoiler for it as well if you wanted to do the factory body kit.
If you search the forum you will find people who have done both conversions for all years and you can see how some people have gone for almost all the details.
10-09-2010, 05:27 PM
#7
-TL Love-
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I just like the Saber badge cause my grandfather used to work on the F-86 Saber's back in the Korean War and I am a fan of flying and especially the F-86s so the Saber badge appealed to me.
So thanks for being an asshole and assuming I am a "JDM as f*ck Ricer" because in actuality I am a MOPAR guy. Those are the Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler muscle cars of the true muscle car era for anybody who may not know.
...I still cant fnd anywhere saying i want to be JDM as f*ck or any text that may even suggest that mindset...
Last edited by TL3.2000; 10-09-2010 at 05:30 PM.
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10-09-2010, 09:30 PM
#8
congrats on being a douche...... To each his own what he/she wants to do to their own car. This forum is to help people, not judge people or waste their time by posting a worthless message like you did.
To answer the OP's question, for the 2nd gen TL's (1999-2003) the Honda equivalent had 2 models in japan. The inspire and the saber. Both came in Type-S variants. The saber base came with a smaller 2.5 engine while the inspire base came with the 3.2. The saber base also had cloth interior etc. There are many things you can do to convert your tl, it just depends how much detail you want to go into. Obviously you won't be converting it to right hand drive, but you can do things like rear emblems, front grill, rear spoiler, door sills, shift knob, airbag, pillar emblems, side marker lights on the front fender. For the 99-01 you can get the jdm bumper with comes with factory fog lamps, but you will need the jdm bumper bar as well since its smaller. Also for 99-01 if u did the bumper conversion you will need a jdm front under spoiler for it as well if you wanted to do the factory body kit.
If you search the forum you will find people who have done both conversions for all years and you can see how some people have gone for almost all the details.
To answer the OP's question, for the 2nd gen TL's (1999-2003) the Honda equivalent had 2 models in japan. The inspire and the saber. Both came in Type-S variants. The saber base came with a smaller 2.5 engine while the inspire base came with the 3.2. The saber base also had cloth interior etc. There are many things you can do to convert your tl, it just depends how much detail you want to go into. Obviously you won't be converting it to right hand drive, but you can do things like rear emblems, front grill, rear spoiler, door sills, shift knob, airbag, pillar emblems, side marker lights on the front fender. For the 99-01 you can get the jdm bumper with comes with factory fog lamps, but you will need the jdm bumper bar as well since its smaller. Also for 99-01 if u did the bumper conversion you will need a jdm front under spoiler for it as well if you wanted to do the factory body kit.
If you search the forum you will find people who have done both conversions for all years and you can see how some people have gone for almost all the details.
10-10-2010, 02:41 PM
#12
lol what's so wrong about jdm conversion? they're oem parts 
... and it's a matter of opinion; i personally like how the saber grilles look on both pre/post face lift 2g tl's. if you don't like it, so what? it's not your car, and at least it's not rice. i'm sure there are some people in japan saying, "USDM as F*ck" is overrated.
... and it's a matter of opinion; i personally like how the saber grilles look on both pre/post face lift 2g tl's. if you don't like it, so what? it's not your car, and at least it's not rice. i'm sure there are some people in japan saying, "USDM as F*ck" is overrated.
10-10-2010, 02:49 PM
#13
congrats on being a douche...... To each his own what he/she wants to do to their own car. This forum is to help people, not judge people or waste their time by posting a worthless message like you did.
To answer the OP's question, for the 2nd gen TL's (1999-2003) the Honda equivalent had 2 models in japan. The inspire and the saber. Both came in Type-S variants. The saber base came with a smaller 2.5 engine while the inspire base came with the 3.2. The saber base also had cloth interior etc. There are many things you can do to convert your tl, it just depends how much detail you want to go into. Obviously you won't be converting it to right hand drive, but you can do things like rear emblems, front grill, rear spoiler, door sills, shift knob, airbag, pillar emblems, side marker lights on the front fender. For the 99-01 you can get the jdm bumper with comes with factory fog lamps, but you will need the jdm bumper bar as well since its smaller. Also for 99-01 if u did the bumper conversion you will need a jdm front under spoiler for it as well if you wanted to do the factory body kit.
If you search the forum you will find people who have done both conversions for all years and you can see how some people have gone for almost all the details.
To answer the OP's question, for the 2nd gen TL's (1999-2003) the Honda equivalent had 2 models in japan. The inspire and the saber. Both came in Type-S variants. The saber base came with a smaller 2.5 engine while the inspire base came with the 3.2. The saber base also had cloth interior etc. There are many things you can do to convert your tl, it just depends how much detail you want to go into. Obviously you won't be converting it to right hand drive, but you can do things like rear emblems, front grill, rear spoiler, door sills, shift knob, airbag, pillar emblems, side marker lights on the front fender. For the 99-01 you can get the jdm bumper with comes with factory fog lamps, but you will need the jdm bumper bar as well since its smaller. Also for 99-01 if u did the bumper conversion you will need a jdm front under spoiler for it as well if you wanted to do the factory body kit.
If you search the forum you will find people who have done both conversions for all years and you can see how some people have gone for almost all the details.
lol)
10-10-2010, 04:34 PM
#14
Lol, u guys bombed on bluejay!! Even though I do agree with him on the fact that it's overrated. Most people just follow a trend and are willing to spend a lot of time and money on that. Some do it to Inspire others (watch out for the pun lol) and at times it makes me sick. On the flip side the 02-03 Saber grill looks wicked, much better then the Acura 1 IMO.
10-11-2010, 03:31 PM
#18
My neighbor flew the saber...
He's the two time captain of the Canadian Snow Birds (equ of Blue Angels).
He also flew with the Blue Angels.
Still does radar testing flights.
For Canada's 100 years of flight he flew across Canada in a Saber, he was with an astronaut too - i forget what plane he was flying...
He's the two time captain of the Canadian Snow Birds (equ of Blue Angels).
He also flew with the Blue Angels.
Still does radar testing flights.
For Canada's 100 years of flight he flew across Canada in a Saber, he was with an astronaut too - i forget what plane he was flying...
10-12-2010, 09:30 AM
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your argument is invalid.
10-12-2010, 09:54 AM
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I have a 2000 TL and went with the JDM front bumper just for the foglights. I kept all the Acura badges and I have to say, it looks great. Just having the foglights changes the look and is very functional.
10-20-2010, 02:04 PM
#24
In the US, we're doing Honda conversions. In Japan, they're doing Acura conversions. I guess the grass is greener on the other side.
Last edited by eleventure; 10-20-2010 at 02:09 PM.
10-20-2010, 11:22 PM
#25
congrats on being a douche...... To each his own what he/she wants to do to their own car. This forum is to help people, not judge people or waste their time by posting a worthless message like you did.
To answer the OP's question, for the 2nd gen TL's (1999-2003) the Honda equivalent had 2 models in japan. The inspire and the saber. Both came in Type-S variants. The saber base came with a smaller 2.5 engine while the inspire base came with the 3.2. The saber base also had cloth interior etc. There are many things you can do to convert your tl, it just depends how much detail you want to go into. Obviously you won't be converting it to right hand drive, but you can do things like rear emblems, front grill, rear spoiler, door sills, shift knob, airbag, pillar emblems, side marker lights on the front fender. For the 99-01 you can get the jdm bumper with comes with factory fog lamps, but you will need the jdm bumper bar as well since its smaller. Also for 99-01 if u did the bumper conversion you will need a jdm front under spoiler for it as well if you wanted to do the factory body kit.
If you search the forum you will find people who have done both conversions for all years and you can see how some people have gone for almost all the details.
To answer the OP's question, for the 2nd gen TL's (1999-2003) the Honda equivalent had 2 models in japan. The inspire and the saber. Both came in Type-S variants. The saber base came with a smaller 2.5 engine while the inspire base came with the 3.2. The saber base also had cloth interior etc. There are many things you can do to convert your tl, it just depends how much detail you want to go into. Obviously you won't be converting it to right hand drive, but you can do things like rear emblems, front grill, rear spoiler, door sills, shift knob, airbag, pillar emblems, side marker lights on the front fender. For the 99-01 you can get the jdm bumper with comes with factory fog lamps, but you will need the jdm bumper bar as well since its smaller. Also for 99-01 if u did the bumper conversion you will need a jdm front under spoiler for it as well if you wanted to do the factory body kit.
If you search the forum you will find people who have done both conversions for all years and you can see how some people have gone for almost all the details.
BlueJays just one of "those" people.......
10-21-2010, 12:56 AM
#26
Rice Patrol
^lolol
I am pretty torn between the two...while I love being different and putting the saber badges on is something that would appeal to me, I also really like the way the A badge and ACURA lettering look on the back. I've played with both, I mean after all it doesn't really matter what I keep (I took off the 3.2TL permanently) and it's just a matter of what you're into. If you like the JDM craze then by all means go for it! (Hell I'll probably be able to sell you the H badges, Grill, Grill Mesh and Saber lettering just send me a PM) Or if you like to keep it original than keep it original. The one thing I can guarantee you is that so long as you tastefully mod your TL no one will really give a damn about what you chose. the decision is solely your preference.
That being said, I've become a HUGE fan of NBP Lettering. If a thin coat is applied and then clearcoat over it, it gives a ridiculously nice Black Chrome Look. Done it to my grill and back and It's my personal favorite. And to that, No one will care that i've done it. It's not in bad taste and it's clean.
Good Luck with your modding!
I am pretty torn between the two...while I love being different and putting the saber badges on is something that would appeal to me, I also really like the way the A badge and ACURA lettering look on the back. I've played with both, I mean after all it doesn't really matter what I keep (I took off the 3.2TL permanently) and it's just a matter of what you're into. If you like the JDM craze then by all means go for it! (Hell I'll probably be able to sell you the H badges, Grill, Grill Mesh and Saber lettering just send me a PM) Or if you like to keep it original than keep it original. The one thing I can guarantee you is that so long as you tastefully mod your TL no one will really give a damn about what you chose. the decision is solely your preference.
That being said, I've become a HUGE fan of NBP Lettering. If a thin coat is applied and then clearcoat over it, it gives a ridiculously nice Black Chrome Look. Done it to my grill and back and It's my personal favorite. And to that, No one will care that i've done it. It's not in bad taste and it's clean.
Good Luck with your modding!
11-16-2010, 11:06 AM
#27
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This, in no way, is meant to bash or criticise anyone and I especially do not intend to make anyone feel bad about their opinion and or expressing themselves.
With that being said...
When I see a car, an '02 TL for instance, with $1,000's of 'upgrades' in wheels, lights and other after market appointments, I just have to wonder...
Don't get me wrong, I can certainly appreciate a nice set of wheels and even some modest, tasteful, 'car bling.' Since my teen days with my '67 Mustang fastback and my '69 Camaro, to my pre-dependent 20's with my '04 S4, I too spent a bunch of cash on 'appointments' but now that I'm in my 30's, I've owned and sold enough cars to have developed a pretty strong preference for investing my money as apposed to squandering it.
So, when I see pimped out cars, I know ask myself, why on earth would someone take a 12K car and slap 4K of bling on it and greatly reduce the market in which to sell it which might actually cause me to LOSE money rather than MAKE money on the investment?
A more concise question would be: Why did that person not just pool the 12K with the 4K and buy a newer, higher line model for 16K that they might appreciate just as much? The 4K would could be financed, protected by insurance and would claim a higher resale value.
For instance, a friend of mine bought an '02 TL and spent nearly 3K in upgrading the wheels, engine cover, badges, shift knob and a few other things, just to make it look like a Type S. Shouldn't he just have bought the S in the first place?
Or, a kid down the street bought a lightly used Civic Si for ~20k. Within months, he had spent over 6K on wheels, lights, body kits, and get this, Acura badging! Though it looks great (nice my taste at all but does look professional,) he could have bought a late model TL which I know he would have preferred!
Again, I don't mean to push anyone down with this, I just hope to share my opinion in a way that might inspire some to think a little differently if they so desire.
I know it's fun to tinker and add bit of character but I think that we can all get carried away sometimes and all too often, we don't realize just how much time and money we pour into rides when we could have just upgraded to better for less!
Cheers & Peace !!
With that being said...
When I see a car, an '02 TL for instance, with $1,000's of 'upgrades' in wheels, lights and other after market appointments, I just have to wonder...
Don't get me wrong, I can certainly appreciate a nice set of wheels and even some modest, tasteful, 'car bling.' Since my teen days with my '67 Mustang fastback and my '69 Camaro, to my pre-dependent 20's with my '04 S4, I too spent a bunch of cash on 'appointments' but now that I'm in my 30's, I've owned and sold enough cars to have developed a pretty strong preference for investing my money as apposed to squandering it.
So, when I see pimped out cars, I know ask myself, why on earth would someone take a 12K car and slap 4K of bling on it and greatly reduce the market in which to sell it which might actually cause me to LOSE money rather than MAKE money on the investment?
A more concise question would be: Why did that person not just pool the 12K with the 4K and buy a newer, higher line model for 16K that they might appreciate just as much? The 4K would could be financed, protected by insurance and would claim a higher resale value.
For instance, a friend of mine bought an '02 TL and spent nearly 3K in upgrading the wheels, engine cover, badges, shift knob and a few other things, just to make it look like a Type S. Shouldn't he just have bought the S in the first place?
Or, a kid down the street bought a lightly used Civic Si for ~20k. Within months, he had spent over 6K on wheels, lights, body kits, and get this, Acura badging! Though it looks great (nice my taste at all but does look professional,) he could have bought a late model TL which I know he would have preferred!
Again, I don't mean to push anyone down with this, I just hope to share my opinion in a way that might inspire some to think a little differently if they so desire.
I know it's fun to tinker and add bit of character but I think that we can all get carried away sometimes and all too often, we don't realize just how much time and money we pour into rides when we could have just upgraded to better for less!
Cheers & Peace !!
11-16-2010, 12:09 PM
#29
Rice Patrol
^its not so much about squandering money so much as it is enjoying what you have to the fullest, and more importantly a sense of accomplishment.
I have a 2000 TL that was handed down to me and I have a 2007 X5 which I purchased when I got my job. I'll be honest in saying that I greatly enjoy my TL more than the X5.
Its not that the x5 is in anyway a bad truck, it's a very nice one with all the bells and whistles, but I don't plan on modding it in any way (its bone stock). I got the suv partly because it was a good deal and also because I need to be able to transfer boxes of stuff on a regular basis, but when it comes to driving enjoyment I would choose my TL.
Now to answer your question, i can't speak for everyone, but I know that whenever I work on my TL (however minor it may be) I feel very accomplished if the outcome is what I intended. I recently did a bit of work on it (lowered, painted the grill, cleared the headlights) and whenever I look at the car I smile because I feel good about the work I put into it.
it's not always about resale value man. I know that my TL is worth virtually nothing and for me to sell it would just be a waste. but the enjoyment I get out of it is worth so much more to me.
I have a 2000 TL that was handed down to me and I have a 2007 X5 which I purchased when I got my job. I'll be honest in saying that I greatly enjoy my TL more than the X5.
Its not that the x5 is in anyway a bad truck, it's a very nice one with all the bells and whistles, but I don't plan on modding it in any way (its bone stock). I got the suv partly because it was a good deal and also because I need to be able to transfer boxes of stuff on a regular basis, but when it comes to driving enjoyment I would choose my TL.
Now to answer your question, i can't speak for everyone, but I know that whenever I work on my TL (however minor it may be) I feel very accomplished if the outcome is what I intended. I recently did a bit of work on it (lowered, painted the grill, cleared the headlights) and whenever I look at the car I smile because I feel good about the work I put into it.
it's not always about resale value man. I know that my TL is worth virtually nothing and for me to sell it would just be a waste. but the enjoyment I get out of it is worth so much more to me.
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