Hey guys I got a quick question, I am thinking of getting the rotora BBK kit for my 02TLS
I have the ron jon inspyre wheels 18, will I need wheel spacers for the BBK setup or will they just bolt on with no issues.

 

..that makes no sense rims need the spacers not the brake kit...but you wont need spacers with those rims

 

Rims didn't need spacers on my car, the BBK Caliper is wider than stock so I was wondering if I need spacer to accommodate the larger caliper.

 

I would not buy from anyone who could not tell me the answer to this post
A good vendor will know what fits what

Question - Why BBK on a TL?
I drive really fast and stop even faster with RacingBrake rotors and Hawk Pads
from MrHeelToe- an acurazine vendor www.heeltoeauto.com or the off topic sponsored sales area here

From the view of a race driver and mechanic- the TL on street legal tires- not racing slicks- has all the brake size you need- just need better parts.
Slotted rotors made a big reduction in brake fade on mountain fun runs and track days
Cross Drilled rotors just eat pads.
Check your options and spend money on right parts for the job

 

Because the BBK is better than the stock calipers and stock sized rotors. Offers far more material for better cooling and heat absorption.
And if you did track the car they would do far better, last longer, better pedal feel, more consistent braking.

 

RJ wheels are designed to work with ROTORA BBK's, at least their 1 pc disc. The 2 pc disc could require a 5mm spacer but it depends on what wheel it is, the offset, and spoke design. RJ could easily answer that question for you. I could also send you the info on the clearance needed for each kit. But I know for sure their 1 pc kit will clear RJ wheels.

 

1 piston caliper vs 4 piston caliper
330mm rotors (13") vs 12" OEM rotor = more surface area to dissipate heat
SS Brake Lines w/ teflon coating
Slotted or combo disc - prevents the pad from glazing over by constantly cutting into it.

And if you choose the 2 pc disc it has its advantages:

- Aluminum hat w/ iron disc
- Cool more effectively due to less restrictive air flow
- Less prone to distortion/warping due to hat being separate from disc
- Hat can be reused so less cost on replacing rotors

 

Kris

See I told you a vendor would know- thanks Excellerate!

And we already had the discussion about heat absorbtion and cooling
You cannot cool anything- only EXTRACT heat thru a number of methods
which then- because you are creating a low pressure suction/vacuum,
air naturally flows from High to Low pressure situations
You can accentuate this flow to introduce cooler faster
In brakes its friction becomes heat.

If your brakes were to absorb the heat you would quickly be calling a tow truck.
Now I understand why YOU could actually use a BBK all the time, others????
My original reply was based on the posters age, wheels, car pic, other mods etc.
to see what they actual needs versus wants were in the situation.
Poster did not state they were entering 24 enduro!
My track days and fun runs have 20-30 minute sessions and then a cool down time drive or rest break. My set-up works perfect for that type of driving, so all I did was ask why would someone -on STREET LEGAL TIRES- not racing slicks which will easily use all the brakes you can give them- NEED more brakes on a TL?
Would they look cool- of course!
I like stealth

 

P.S.

I am totally in favor of upgraded pads and slotted rotors sold by our sponsoring vendors.
I was referring to those upgraded parts when meaning the TL has enough brake for the tires.

Each person has their own reasons for brand selection and loyalties, so its fair to say if sold by our vendors it's a quality product.

Also the SS teflon brake lines are a great investment as well.

 

Id love to be able to afford a BBK. I really would like/need one. Id love to get the 2 piece. I like having the lighter weight hat and 2 piece design to make the rotor last longer

 

20 to 30 min sessions with stock brake parts (well stock replacement aftermarket) They never last that long for me. By the end of 4- maybe 5 laps at RA full tilt i have almost NO brakes left. Pedal is at the floor. Of course i push the envelope more than most and i brake really late.

Street legal tires or not the car could use better brakes. With Z rated ultra high performance tires like i run i can easily use more brake. traction is less of a issue with larger better rubber street tires allowing more brake force

 

I can attest to the benefits of a BBK. About 5 years back I got a little fender bender w/ my 99 Accord b/c the stock brakes were not up to par. After that I ordered the AEM (now Powerslot) enlarged rotor upgrade and some better performing pads. It helped out. However, recently, I installed a ROTORA BBK: 2 pc 330X30MM disc w/ 4 piston calpers. There is a huge difference. The leverage I have now is very noticeable and there is zero fade. I don't track my car but I do do some high speed runs once in a while and the car quickly comes to a stop.

Again, for a track situation (autocross), this a must b/c the stock discs, calipers, pads, and lines are just not up to par. But the BBK also does complete the car aesthetically too. I have always believed BBK's are bought for 2 reasons: function and form.

 

I have the 50 offset inspyre wheel 18 inch, will the one piece fit my TL without any spacers

 

thats right- this was a question about spacers- sorry kuzdu

A few of us run our car hard, harder, and are you insane?!?!?!?!
and share experiences that lead off topic

But please tell me- are you going big for braking rights or bling- just wondering?

 

The ronjons should have no problem. But like stated before, contact ronjon for confirmation.

 

thanks guys i will do some more research on this..