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Old 05-28-2004, 11:03 AM
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Hey everyone. Okay, last week a friend and I removed the "silencer" box from under the bumper and the tubes going to it. After it was removed it sounded FING AWESOME!!! But, at idle to 2000 RPM it had a hum caused by (i'm guessing) the thickness of the open intake hole in the air box. So it was the filter going into the box then just the hole in the airbox. It was a low pitched (loud) hum that was noticable. Is there any way i could make the car's intake sound awesome (and i mean a really really MEAN growl at above 3500 RPM) by taking it out and not having it hum? I guess i could just buy an intake, i just need one that looks stock to almost stock from opening the hood. I'd really appreciate any feedback. Thanks. -Shawn
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One more thing guys....anyone who has an intake that sounds awesome please let me know. Because so far i've looked at Comptech Icebox cold air intake, and AEM V2 Cold air intake system. i want one that'll make the engine growl like hell. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by shawn744
One more thing guys....anyone who has an intake that sounds awesome please let me know. Because so far i've looked at Comptech Icebox cold air intake, and AEM V2 Cold air intake system. i want one that'll make the engine growl like hell. Thanks.
Well if you want your engine to growl, comptech icebox is not the way to go. Comptech = no increase in noise. Sounds completely stock. If you just want to make a nice growling noise..... buy short ram intake. I think they are the loudest. It sure was super loud on my friend's car.....
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I couldn't find a Short Ram intake for an 03 TL-S...do you know where i could look at them? Thanks.
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if you want sound, have you tried removing the exhaust resonator?
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I think thats what he means by "Air Box" , correct me if i am wrong ?
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yeah i believe he did remove the airbox resonator. but im saying, removing the exhaust resonator increases the overall loudness. i dont know if thats what he's going for or not. if you want growl, shawn, go w/ either the AEM or Injen CAI if u can't find a ShortRam
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WTF? The AEM Short RAMS aren't available for TYPE S WTF is that.....does someone know of an AEM SHORT RAM intake for a 03 TL-S?? I'd really appreciate it.
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how about this. http://store.yahoo.com/hopup1/inradicoairi18.html

That's not a short ram. But would it still make a growling. For example for those of you that have ever heard a TLS running without an air filter....something close to that kind of growl. And what about power gains? I think a cold air gives more power than a short ram. need more information. Thanks.
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There is no TypeS SRI because the results at the lower bands (which is what you need for every day driving) were negative HP. This was tested on a CLS, where the SRI was a sawed off AEM CAI. There were gains at the higher RPM bands with SRI, but negative at the lower. So AEM and other companys never made SRI for the TypeS.

CAI would give better results thru the power bands more then SRI, but at higher bands the HP gains are the same. If you look at the claims made by Intake companies, they are all about 12-15 HP gains, which is misleading because the biggest difference are in the higher bands. Which is kinda useless to most people because how often do you redline your car? (if you answer, "everyday", prepare to have the piston rods come flying out the hood).
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Originally Posted by shawn744
For example for those of you that have ever heard a TLS running without an air filter....something close to that kind of growl.
Whoever runs a TLS without an air filter is the biggest idiot in the world. Prepare to have the injector clogged at the very least.
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Originally Posted by shawn744
And what about power gains? I think a cold air gives more power than a short ram. need more information. Thanks.
In terms of power gains. All Intakes will give a peak HP difference of 12-15 HPs at the high 6000 RPM bands. In terms of overall HP gains in all bands, based on the dynos I seen.

Icebox = AEM V2 > CAI > SRI
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Okay, so for an 03 TL-S which intake would you guys recommend which would give the loudest growl that would fit the Type S. HP gain would be nice too.

BTW i've ran the car without a filter for about a minute. No more
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Originally Posted by shawn744
Okay, so for an 03 TL-S which intake would you guys recommend which would give the loudest growl that would fit the Type S. HP gain would be nice too.
For a TypeS, you're limited on the type of intake. They don't make SRI or V2 for the TypeS. You're stuck between Icebox and CAI. So best you can do is CAI. However, CAI doesn't really give that much more of a growl then a Drop in Filter w/o resonator. My suggestion would be to buy a K&N Drop in filter for the stock box and keep the resonator off if all you want is sound.
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what exactly is the resonator....if it's the box inside the front bumper and the tubing, it's leaving a humming noise at idle. I already have a K&N filter for my airbox. Unless the resonator is something else. Please help. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by shawn744
what exactly is the resonator....if it's the box inside the front bumper and the tubing, it's leaving a humming noise at idle. I already have a K&N filter for my airbox. Unless the resonator is something else. Please help. Thanks.
Yes the box under the air box is the resonator box. The humming noise shouldn't be noticible after the engine warmed up. I guess you can try the CAI. I have a blue v.1 AEM CAI, I'm not really impressed with it. So its your choice.
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okay so the CAI doesn't make it any louder right. if it's not i'll just spend the money on something else, like re-tinting it or a spoiler or something. thanks for your help.
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Originally Posted by shawn744
okay so the CAI doesn't make it any louder right. if it's not i'll just spend the money on something else, like re-tinting it or a spoiler or something. thanks for your help.

i think you might be a lil confused on the CAI subject. There are many Cold Air Intakes available for the TLs such as the Comptech IceBox, AEM and Injen. The Comptech Icebox is reported to provide the most gains, but have a stock-like sound. The AEM and Injen provide gains as well as providing a nice growl.

The other option is removing the airbox resonator and using a highperformance aftermarket airfilter (K&N or Comptech). This provides a growl although not as noticeable as that of a Cold Air Intake, but nonetheless it is the cheapest way to go if you are just lookin for sound.
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Originally Posted by Dark DJ
The other option is removing the airbox resonator and using a highperformance aftermarket airfilter (K&N or Comptech). This provides a growl although not as noticeable as that of a Cold Air Intake, but nonetheless it is the cheapest way to go if you are just lookin for sound.
He already has a highflow filter without the resonator box, you don't need to explain intake to him.

CAI doesn't sound any more aggressive then K&N filter w/o resonator box,

I have some sound clips somewhere between K&N drop in filter, AEM CAI, AEM SRI, AEM SRI w/ new inverted K&N cone filter, if anything the CAI sounds a little more muffled but the removed filter box sounds more high pitch at lower bands.

Since he only really care about the sound, He shouldn't waste 200 buxs on a CAI.
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woopz, i forgot about that. yeah i agree, if he only wants sound then stick w/ what he's got, just floor it more often
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