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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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And to add to this i would use Legend 2piston calipers as they are cheaper

so with the Legend calipers is it left side on left side and right side on right side or swap them around just like the NSX... do you also just use the TL brake pads or you buy Legend brake pads...
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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tl brake pads. Left caliper on right side, right side caliper on left
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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i always wondered if the type II legend calipers would fit. good to know.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Front Calipers that should work:
93-95 Legend LS Coupe (40mm and 38mm)
94-95 Legend GS Sedan
91-96 NSX (40mm and 36mm)
97+ NSX (not sure)
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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cool... i just replaced my brake pads not to long ago and still have even wear... and i just saw a legend at the junk yard... i'll see if it's any of the models listed above...
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Looks like I'm too late...

Hi All :

Last year, a non-dealer mechanic told me that I needed to change the rear calipers as one was "siezed" and would cause the pad to drag in the disc and wear out quickly. Being the inquistive type, I called the dealer and asked about calipers and how often are they changed ? They replied that the only time they needed to replace a caliper was when they had been physically damaged.

I called the repair guy back and told him this and he said he might be able to "unsieze" the caliper, but no warranty. OK says I and off I went. After about a year and 2K miles, guess what ? The disc started to show some scoring, which makes me feel like a complete idiot.

So with a new set of pads in hand, I jack up the back of the car and take apart the brakes to see for myself. I take it all apart and had to pry the pads out of the caliper. When I tried to get put the new pads back in, they just wouldn't fit. You have no idea how long I tied to put the pad in with the stainless steel raceways ! There is simply not enough clearance to get all the pieces in and allow the pads to move freely. How can this be given that this is a cast piece and must be designed to allow free movement ?

So I decided to take a file and remove the coating of rust from the top and bottom of the casting where the pads seat and guess what ? After removing the rust down to shiny metal, the pieces all fit perfectly with lots of movement !!

Who could have guessed that simple rust would be thick enough to cause the pads to bind ? So much for the "siezed" caliper problem !

So before you go changing calipers, try this trick out.

Echotango.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Hi All :

Last year, a non-dealer mechanic told me that I needed to change the rear calipers as one was "siezed" and would cause the pad to drag in the disc and wear out quickly. Being the inquistive type, I called the dealer and asked about calipers and how often are they changed ? They replied that the only time they needed to replace a caliper was when they had been physically damaged.

I called the repair guy back and told him this and he said he might be able to "unsieze" the caliper, but no warranty. OK says I and off I went. After about a year and 2K miles, guess what ? The disc started to show some scoring, which makes me feel like a complete idiot.

So with a new set of pads in hand, I jack up the back of the car and take apart the brakes to see for myself. I take it all apart and had to pry the pads out of the caliper. When I tried to get put the new pads back in, they just wouldn't fit. You have no idea how long I tied to put the pad in with the stainless steel raceways ! There is simply not enough clearance to get all the pieces in and allow the pads to move freely. How can this be given that this is a cast piece and must be designed to allow free movement ?

So I decided to take a file and remove the coating of rust from the top and bottom of the casting where the pads seat and guess what ? After removing the rust down to shiny metal, the pieces all fit perfectly with lots of movement !!

Who could have guessed that simple rust would be thick enough to cause the pads to bind ? So much for the "siezed" caliper problem !

So before you go changing calipers, try this trick out.

Echotango.
Oh mine was frozen. 250,000 miles and 7 years it was time. Ive kept up the maintenance on it from day one.

Good tip though
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Front Calipers that should work:
93-95 Legend LS Coupe (40mm and 38mm)
94-95 Legend GS Sedan
91-96 NSX (40mm and 36mm)
97+ NSX (not sure)
Would rear calipers from any of these models work? Does it matter if they are remanufactured?
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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There is NO reason to get the rears. they are all the same single piston. Whats different with the fronts are the dual piston over our single piston
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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i have been wondering, since the legend calipers and nsx calipers bolt up, will big brake kits for either car bolt up to our tl's also?
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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good to know
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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i have been wondering, since the legend calipers and nsx calipers bolt up, will big brake kits for either car bolt up to our tl's also?
Its possible
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Smarty Pants- good tip
Those little ends where the tabs from the pad fit in the bracket must be clean and lubed with caliper grease, there is supposed to be a metal piece with spring tabs that fits in there so the pads are held in suspension between the 2 points, were yours missing?

Also spray clean the rubber boot with gentle cleaner and wipe off any grit and grime before pushing the piston in-- if that gets pushed into the cylinder wall and piston's rubber o-ring seal---say goodbye caliper when that happens
Always a good idea to flush the brake fluid FIRST- before working on brakes- to avoid backwash- baaaaadddddddd
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
But i am kinda looking for a color photo DIY for the brake calipers though
I just replaced my rear pads and am about to replace all four rotors, calipers and pads on my TL in a few days. When I did the pad job, I took a ton of pictures bc I am planning on doing a DIY. I'll bang it out in the next day or so and send you the link so you can see what needs to be done.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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So I'm a moron...

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I just replaced my rear pads and am about to replace all four rotors, calipers and pads on my TL in a few days. When I did the pad job, I took a ton of pictures bc I am planning on doing a DIY. I'll bang it out in the next day or so and send you the link so you can see what needs to be done.
Ok, my fingers went faster then my brain and I didn't realize that the guy asking was the same guy who dropped in a 6 speed.

I wish I had known about the NSX calipers fitting the TL before I got my refurbed Akebonos.

I'm still doing a DIY tho.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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check the DIY section- there is a thread but it needs improvement
fsttyms was being funny~ but no one got the joke!

Just ordered my Legend front calipers
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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me just being bored and wanting to start a thread to see how many would jump to help.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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I was watching Trucks on Spike TV and saw them rebuild a caliper, They made it seem like a walk in the park.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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With the right tools and skills, and assuming no corrossion, and if you can use the tools correctly- sure its cake
And for this job I went ahead and let someone who is a specialist do it
At a certain point you have to figure what is your time worth to do a rebuild- versus just buying it already done
SpeedTV doesnt show all the times they did it wrong in the process!
A little wrong angle in the honing and kiss that seal goodbye
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