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Old 09-07-2007, 04:11 PM
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Rear Caliper DIY

So i discovered that i have a rear caliper stuck/hung and i need to replace it. Does any one have a DIY on how to replace it???

Any one wanna come over and give me a hand replacing it
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Your kidding right kris?

Though I have a suspicion I may have the same prob - which gives me reason to upgrade the front calipers to nsx per your suggestion as long as I need a rear set

Place rag on ground- this can get messy
Remove tension from brake hose bolt
remove 2 caliper mounting bolts
remove hose now- cap if possible
New banjo washers for the hose come with the caliper
Install finger tight to caliper and mount caliper to bracket
Tighten hose to spec and recheck caliper bolts
Bleed brakes- do the new one first- then a full normal bleed on all 4 for safety
Old 09-07-2007, 04:21 PM
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Hmm If I ~borrow~ the company LearJet, we can do your brakes, then run down to dnd's place (who told him Tampa Fl was a vaction destination anyway?) and fix his car up, then I think 808 needs some help in Hawaii with a radar jammer, and we can drop by my place on the way back on slip in the Teins and you can check out the shine on despers ride

Sounds like fun!
Old 09-07-2007, 04:31 PM
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:32 PM
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But i am kinda looking for a color photo DIY for the brake calipers though
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ooops- I forgot to mention

Since its a pain to get any fluid in the caliper before install, the first few sets of pumps should be very short stroke and like 2-3 pumps and open bleeder- get some fluid into the thing before going full on with the movements- that oring needs a little bit of love lube to maintain its integrity
Old 09-07-2007, 04:58 PM
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:02 PM
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you are kidding right Kris? After being able to rebuild the engine and tranny numerous times with your eyes closed, a totally conversion from auto to 6speed... and now you are asking for a DIY on the rear caliper?!
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checking my calendar here on the desk - Ohhhh I see In Bizzo Land its April Fools Day!!!

Or someone has hacked his account and playing games with us~
because the REAL fsttyms1 has tried nearly every brand of rotor and pad in 250,00 ++++ miles of fun

We should all have seen the signs of head injury when our Superhero started banging his head against the wall someone do a welfare check on Kris please- for real-
Old 09-07-2007, 05:18 PM
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:28 PM
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Ok Now that I know it was Freaky Friday Funny by our Mod

Kris- how did you discover the rear caliper prob
I am chasing something weird in mine- did 1 front, victim of the 6 year old fluid
and suspect the others
Old 09-07-2007, 06:01 PM
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Wow, Kris asked a question?
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sitting at a stoplight (slight incline) car wasnt rolling backwards. Got home looked at teh brakes (originally thought it was the parking brake) to my dismay it wasnt the parking brake, my greenstuff pad was black from heat. and now i need a caliper so i bought 2. they come in tomorrow and now i need to figure out how to doeet
Old 09-07-2007, 06:06 PM
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How did it go D- what color did you pick
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Revision to DIY

Buy new brake pads
Buy Beer
Rent friend for an hour
Drink Beer
Have friend change the calipers while you supervise
Offer friend Beer
Rest as stated above post
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
Your kidding right kris?

which gives me reason to upgrade the front calipers to nsx per your suggestion as long as I need a rear set
Can we really fit NSX calipers on our cars, is it a direct fit? Is it worth the cost? What are the benefits?

And like everyone else, I'm shocked we got a question from our "God of a Mod". What is this world coming to?
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Originally Posted by 02TLSfan
Can we really fit NSX calipers on our cars, is it a direct fit? Is it worth the cost? What are the benefits?

And like everyone else, I'm shocked we got a question from our "God of a Mod". What is this world coming to?
Yes, yes,yes,dual piston

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People- listen up- He was JOKING thats why the red color

The mid 90s nsx/legend 2 piston calipers are a great improvement over stock calipers on the TL
We are talking about the fronts- which do 70% of the braking force
You just swap them left for right compared to what is says they are for- so the bleeders are in the right place,other than that its bolt on
If you look at the outer part of the caliper it has 2 fingers against the pad to apply pressure
On the other side is 1 big round thing pushing against a flat object- the brake pad- so its pressure is spread over a larger area
With 2 pistons on the inside of the caliper- smaller more direct contact across from the fingers they pull against.
Fsttyms says its good- the Tech at Acura confirms as best bang for buck if you have gone upgraded rotors and pads

Parts stores dont look to see what you brought back as a core anyway
Old 09-07-2007, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
Revision to DIY

Buy new brake pads
Buy Beer
Rent friend for an hour
Drink Beer
Have friend change the calipers while you supervise
Offer friend Beer
Rest as stated above post
See if it were me, id

Drive all over town to find the calipers and pads. Finally get teh best deal at the dealer.Buy new brake pads and calipers wait till sat am for them to come in.
In the mean time go buy beer
Call friends over to drink said beer
Go to bar when it runs out
Come home when said bar kicks us out at closing (2:30)
Wake up drive to dealer for brake parts
Call friend to wake his drunk ass up on way to dealer
Go home with new parts
Mix up some Bloody Marys waiting for said hungover friend
Jack up car
Drink Bloody Mary
Take off tire
Drink more of Bloody Mary
Proceed to work blindly since no one on Zine will give me a Picture DIY of how to do it
Button up the job
Eat
All this should occur by 8:30AM
Old 09-07-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
People- listen up- He was JOKING thats why the red color

The mid 90s nsx/legend 2 piston calipers are a great improvement over stock calipers on the TL
We are talking about the fronts- which do 70% of the braking force
You just swap them left for right compared to what is says they are for- so the bleeders are in the right place,other than that its bolt on
If you look at the outer part of the caliper it has 2 fingers against the pad to apply pressure
On the other side is 1 big round thing pushing against a flat object- the brake pad- so its pressure is spread over a larger area
With 2 pistons on the inside of the caliper- smaller more direct contact across from the fingers they pull against.
Fsttyms says its good- the Tech at Acura confirms as best bang for buck if you have gone upgraded rotors and pads

Parts stores dont look to see what you brought back as a core anyway
And to add to this i would use Legend 2piston calipers as they are cheaper
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What did you go with? A $150 rear set of Raybestos semi-loaded remans?

What pads?
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
And to add to this i would use Legend 2piston calipers as they are cheaper
This makes me wish I had ripped the calipers off either of my totalled Legends.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
And to add to this i would use Legend 2piston calipers as they are cheaper
I don't regret upgrading to the Legend caliper set.
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
What did you go with? A $150 rear set of Raybestos semi-loaded remans?

What pads?
I couldnt find anyplace that had calipers for under 100 each and they were remans and took like 5 days to get. I went to the dealer and got new for 130 each
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I couldnt find anyplace that had calipers for under 100 each and they were remans and took like 5 days to get. I went to the dealer and got new for 130 each
Meh, i lived with dragging brakes for quite a while.

what's wrong with remans?
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
Meh, i lived with dragging brakes for quite a while.

what's wrong with remans?
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Ok so i changed out the calipers. Went good thanks to all the help and the DIYs and pictures.

The rear pads made a sound that i would best describe as race pads while braking (any one who has heard cold race pads on a race car knows the sound) and now i know why. I dont think many pads would have lasted as long as the green stuff after looking at them. They are completely burnt! I would have to say someone at some point had to have seen a glowing red rotor (which i should probably replace as well) while i was cruising down the hwy.

Bottom is the good pad, top is the fried pad.





look at the pad material. Last time i saw that was a full day at the track. And the pads didnt even look quite that bad and i know the rotors were as hot as they would possibly get. They were fire engine red, and every time i hit the brakes they threw out sparks!!

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Holy Yikes Batmite!!

And you only THINK you should replace the rotor????

Hint- REPLACE THE ROTOR
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rotor actually looked pretty good. it really wasnt worn at all. Ill get around to it when i have a little more time. i just needed to get this repaired so that the car would roll smoothly
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Cant really see the rotor well in this pic but its not bad. I did flush the whole system out though

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is there a DIY for anything relating to brakes around here? i grew up learning to do motor, motor and more motor
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that's some healthy looking brake fluid in that jar.
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just look thru the DIY section at the top of page and scroll thru the threads for everything else
Brakes are a priority upgrade on the TL for any serious drivers
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
that's some healthy looking brake fluid in that jar.
It actually wasnt as bad as the pic makes it look. It wasnt as dark. But im sure the boiling point was greatly reduced


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