I was behind this black 540i that was racing in and out of lanes without using a turn signal (because BMWs apparently do not offer turn signals without an optional package). I ended up at the line with the weany at a red light. The lanes merged into one at about a block down and I was in the inside lane. I turned off the traction, put it into sport shift and when the light changed we both stepped on it. My tires fought for traction but just chirped slightly. By the time I hit high revs in gear 2, he was slightly behind and then backed off before he merged right into the trees. Of course, he then rode my ass for the rest of the road at 60 mph in a 40.:p

 

Nice job. I think a 540i driven PROPERLY should be able to take us out, but thanx to your superior driving skillz he saw nothing but your rear . You put him right where he belongs. In the category of a bad driver, with too much ego (agressive lane changes and no blinker), too much money (BMW) and finally, too little driving skill . At least it wasnt a woman, becuase I see way too many woman BMW drivers. Man these rich guys are whipped! Buying thier wives BMW's, sheesh. Good burn.

 

Right on,
i had a 98 540i and it was quick i never imagined the TL-S would get it.. :p

The guys on the www.bimmer.org forum would **** their pants and they wouldnt believe it.

I have really put my 02 TL-S to the test a few times and every time i get it revved up i can almost feel 3rd gear spin i luv it

 

Yeah apparently, most of the BMW buyers don't opt for the optional "Exterior turn signal indicator" Package because you'll be hard press to see them turn on when they actually move into the other lane. You'd expect these luxury cars to come with them standard :p

 

I cant take it anymore all these stories of the TL-S sound so inticing i cant take the wait anymore to get mine. I guess it will just make it that much better when i finally get it

BTW- good kill!

 

ummm...good kill...but ahh..i raced my friends' 540...he destroyed me...

of course he has dinan stage 2 and acs exhaust and some other goodies

 

Of course he destroyed you, but it won't be that bad if you were in a TL-S.

 

my brother has a 98 540 (auto with sport pack). I used to drive his all the time and now he drives my TL-S and we both agree that the 540 in auto feels about the same as the TL-S (in acceleration). I raced him a couple of times and it is about neck and neck. His lease is up and he is looking at the M5 though guess the closes races will be over soon Time to get that M3

Bryan

 

this is a joke.

Even with a bad driver an 540i auto will still beat TL-S by a good margin. Not to mention the 540i 6 speed.

 

Hey I am just stating exactly what happened betwen me and my brother... I have nothing to gain by not telling the truth

 

ummm i aslo race my friends 540I and i was left standing on high end... 1st and 2nd gear we can say we can kina keep up but when he kicks in the 3rd, forget it the 540 will just pull on you... it also depends on who has a better launch...

 

Kev, you know we both have our share of racing Young's BMW 540. And it is definitely true that in the high end, the 540 will win for sure.

 

Are you guys serious? Exterior turn signals are optional on a bimmer???
sorry never owned a bimmer before...

 

:flamer: Sorry, he must have had a rebadged 525/528 or something, a 540 will leave you in the dust....

 

Hum...this reply is not meant to be a flame, but I think sometimes we TL-Sers think we are almighty. I admit to having this problems sometimes too. There's no way in hell we can go neck to neck with a 540 (or 540i). Maybe that dude just didn't want to waste his time. I admit that if a sooped up Civic or something (no offense to anyone with a Civic, most of us know what it is capable of doing to a vette if driven by the right driver and with the right mods) wants to race with me, I would normally just smile at them and let them charge in front of me as much as they want. I'm just going to sit back and listen to their tin can exhaust fade away in a distance. However, if an S4 or 330Ci come up to me, you'll be damn sure I'm going to give them a good run. Gotta compare apples to apples here guys...

axleback

 

Heres my story with a DINAN 540. This post was made by the guys friend from the CL board. Happened on Thanksgiving back in November. http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...ighlight=dinan

 

I don't think keeping up with a 540 is that big of stretch? Never raced one but they have 290 H.P. and weigh 3800 lbs. Type S has 260 h.p. and weighs 3550 lbs. Not saying we are faster but I could see keeping up with them or least keeping it respectable up to about 90 or 100 MPH.

 

Maybe I'll give you that...but he claims the other car was a 540i. Now that's a far stretch. Perhaps he was a really terrible driver then. Who knows. Btw, you can't really focus on the horsepower only. The 540i can pump out 324lb-ft of torque compared with our measly 232. The key here is torque Frohlich.

axleback

 

I try and make all my races torque free

 

Actually, I agree with you. My brother and I wonly raced to 100KPH (62MPH). This was back in October a few weeks after i bought my car he was already using his winter tires (Michelin XM+S 330's) and he did have a lot of wheelspin on the dry, cold, pavement... I am guessing from everyone else's experience that he would have walked away at higher speeds. I will try again with him in the next few months when everything starts drying up. I will let you guys know the results! I just have to race him as much as I can before he trades in for that M5, at that point it will just be embarassing


Bryan

 

[However, if an S4 or 330Ci come up to me, you'll be damn sure I'm going to give them a good run. Gotta compare apples to apples here guys...

The S4 better be a Tip, they only do 14.6 best and average 14.7-14.8 at the strip.
6speed is quicker and faster than TL-S. 13.9 best times but the average ran is 14.1-14.4. Have even seen some run high 14's and 15's too!
Even stock A6 2.7T 6 speed is quicker. THey are running 14.3-14.4 at the strip stock best times but usually around 14.5-14.7. THe Tip A6 stock is only 14.9-15.1 at the track.

 

Well I know form experiencea 540 raped me from about 30 on up till 90. Up to 30 it was a good run, I knew I was going to lose although!

 

Exactly my point. We could probably give the 540 a good run 'til around 25-30 mph. That's where their awesome torque comes in. Once they pick their heavy body up from stand still, the rest is pretty much history for us. Who really cares about the first 25-30mph? Gotta look at the 1/4 mile at least. Even my grandma can smoke me in a 540 for the quarter mile.

axleback

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ming 2.7T
[B][However, if an S4 or 330Ci come up to me, you'll be damn sure I'm going to give them a good run. Gotta compare apples to apples here guys...

The S4 better be a Tip, they only do 14.6 best and average 14.7-14.8 at the strip.

I know for a fact a S4 with turbo will beat you in the top end! I had the unfortunate luck of losing to him after 110 he just left me like i was walking . If anyone knows a guy in the DC area with a yellow S4 tell him good kill.

 

I am not trying to call anyone a liar.

But the truth is that if he really has a 540i, regardless of which gear the 540i is in. Both 540i and 540ia will walk away from TL-S with ease.

Even the a weak 530i 5 speed would probably be neck and neck with TL-S, if the the BMW driver know what he is doing.

 

No LOL
I just said that because I've never seen a bimmer use blinkers

 

What can I say. It happened. It was a 540i. He didn't have any tire spin and he definitely jumped right off the line. Of course, as I said it was only until the top end of second gear, so if there had been some more road before the merge, it sounds like I might have been toast. But I guess that's why I picked that race with a short distance until the merge. I figured he's not going to get more than a full length before he hits the trees and he's gonna have to first ask himself "do I feel lucky"? Well....do ya punk? I guessed not.

 

Interesting, very interesting indeed...no other comments at this time. Hahahaha.

In all fairness, I too have a 540iA SP, and will admit that if the car is punched off the line the car will just sit there spinning rubber. If both cars launched and not much spin from either, the TLS would give the 540i/A a respectable race to about end of 1st gear then the 540 would just start pulling away due to its massive torque amount the V8 has. I have to agree with someone here that posted about once it gets moving it goes.
Once moving, it would very tough for a 540 to lose to a TLS, let alone 98% of the cars out there...maybe gearing, who knows.
I tried to entice a white TLS with body kit and blue hgh beam bulbs on 495 today. The "kids" looked about early 20ish and they were traveling about 80mph or so and I got next to them and eventually passed them and watied to see if they would come...but they didn't. DARN

 

beating a 540i would be questionable! Now a 530 or 525...bring em on In my experience most of the 540 owners don't really bother racing, its more the 525 owners who think they have a Diablo

 

LOL!

 

No **** man, a ****ing 540 will beat a TLS in a heartbeat.

 

I have a few video clips of a Bimmer 540 racing a C4 Vette at 'some' stoplight 'somewhere'. Man I love those racing videos, can't get enough of 'em

BTW-The Bimmer had the lead at the beginning, but once the Vette stopped spinning, he took over the race and smoked the Bimmer.

 

kewl...show clips please or tell us the link where we can download it.

axleback

 

This is some great reading. I would love to kick that guy's ass!

BTW, I have a '98 540i 6Speed (runs about 20 seconds in the 1/4 ; anyone want to meet up in about 1 week at Great Lakes Dragway?)

 

This is from motortrend. (ofcourse street racing easily accounts for a .5 second swing).

540i auto
0-60: 6.6
1/4: 14.6/95.1

TLS auto
0-60: 6.3
1/4: 14.7/97.6

So the bs flags come out why???

 

I love being an underdog

 

Because you took the worst ## for the 540i VS. the best ## for the TL-S

Check out other Publications, the 540i is capable of doing a 0-60 time of 5.7seconds (car and driver)

But you can go ahead and keep living in that little word of yours while the rest of us will live in reality.

 

OK, I am not disputing the fact that the 540 is faster but isn't it better that he got his numbers from the same publication? It would not be fair, IMO, if he took one set of numbers from Car and Driver and one from MoterTrend.

Bryan

 

The reality is, a 14.5 second car can still lose to a 15.0 second car.
It happens, who cares why or how good of driver or circumstances.
So people coming in saying bs and spouting how it's impossible
just play themselves off as being ignorant, especially when the difference
is less than half a second.

 

Ever notice how German car commercials are so hyped up compared to Japanese ones...example:

Audi A4 ad:
"The wind howls...because it can't keep up...."

yeah right...please

A more intelligent Infiniti G35 ad:

"If you can't fight the wind...make it your friend, G35... .26 drag coefficient..."

Unfortunately it is the hype that sells!