Hey guys, I need your opinion..
My friend keeps telling me that his car is faster than mine and he is willing to bet 50 bucks that he can take me. This is the break down of what we got....


I have a 2003 TL type S with a AEM cold air intake

He has a 2004 TL (auto) with Injen cold air intake

What do you think?

 

Driver's race.

 

Yeah. The 03TL-S feels faster than the 04TL but the hp and mods are so close. Its a depends if someone messes up.

 

that would be a good race. keep us posted.

 

I hope i'll win this one. Cause he beat me a few months ago while I was drivin a 2004 nissan maxima. We tried several times. Maybe because my father puts regular in there.

 

It's going to be a driver's race. Make sure you get a good launch. Don't get hasty, and ease into throttle. It's much easier to make up for a slow start than a fucked up start.

If you're good with gate-shifting, then gate-shift. If not, just leave it in D5.


Good luck, and keep it safe. Let us know what happens.

 

A/C Off VSA Off Gate Shift Highest octane fuel squeeze the throttle no spare and take out all non essential cargo windows up, radio and lights off sunroof closed fast for three days and drive nekid... set a distance marker and keep it safe still a driver's race and it will be close.

 

take out any extra weight, yep and u are probally still going to lose.

 

c'mon guys I'm sure the guy with the 04 won't take out his tire. Besides, by taking out a spare it's not like he's adding 50hp to his car. If you lose, just say "best out of 3 lol". Be careful.

 

I drove 04TL and it feels slower than my type S

 

def. a drivers race. it's the manuel that can kick your ass on the spot. keep up posted and wolnd't D4 be a better gear? since D5 is 'overdrive'?

 

feels and are are 2 different things. on paper the 04 should win. but they are so close it would/will be a drivers race

 

I always thought on paper the tls traps higher than the 04

 

For an extra weight advantage, get an enema, too. ...

 

pour some octane boost before you race this guy. He doesnt have to know. Since both of you have intake that kinda cancel each other. Race with 1/4 tank of gas since a full tank of gas can be heavy. Take a piss and a $hit before you race to reduce weight <---- J/K. The gas tank thing is for reals tho and I think a higher octne will give you a little extra kick in your engine

 

shouldnt this be in cartalk?

 

run him with quarter tank or less... and take out your spare tire... There is a estimate calculation that I've read.. it's approx 100lbs = 10hp .. so for every 100lbs you take out of your car, your car will perform like it has an extra 10 hp (these are approximates obviously)...

I've also overheard the weight of gasoline somewhere and I remember claculating the weight of our TL tank, it was about 100-120lbs of gasoilne with a full tank.

So if you do only run with minimal gas, take out your spare and trunk insert..... you should lighten your load by over 140-150 lbs...

 

According to the Material Safety Data Sheets provided by BP Amoco, each of the unleaded, fuel-grade gasolines has a specific gravity around 0.75 g/ml (grams per milliliter). In British units, this specific gravity can be expressed as lb/pt (pounds per pint), since a pint of water with a specific gravity of 1.0 weighs a pound. Since there are 8 pints to a gallon, 8 x 0.75 = 6, so:


a gallon of gasoline should weigh 6 pounds.
(Likewise, 1L of petrol weighs 750 g, for everyone outside of the US.)

 

what is gate shifting?

 

We carry 17.2 U.S. gallons (65.0 liters)

So... 103.2 pounds

 

The Type S has Sequential SportShift™

 

ON paper means HP/TQ, lbs, drivetrain. ON paper the 3rd gen should be faster than the TL-s. in magizines the 3rd gen IS faster than the TL-S, but not by much (tenths) so it comes down to like acouple of us have said to the DRIVER

 

gate shifting is when the driver manually moves the gear stick from the 1 position to the 2, to the third forth and fifth... SS or SportShift is when the driver manually uses the gear shift and moves it to the +/- area.

 

I have both that I alternate driving daily.

The TL-S has more torque down low, while the 04 has a torque surge in the higher RPMs. My advice is nail your launch and shift at the redline. VSA off, put it in SS, and gun it. Let the computer shift 1-2 for you in SS and shift at the red the rest of the way. It will be a fun close race. Depends on how good of a driver you are.

The 04 is a bit more tricky to drive because the rev limmiter hits quickly after redline (unlike the TL-S which lets you go to about 7100 RPMs. So the race will also depend on how well your friend knows how to drive the 04 as well.

 

Absolutely ... thread closed. Good call.