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Old 05-01-2007, 04:30 PM
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Lightbulb Quick NGK question....

Ok just got back from advanced auto parts...and need to go back in a hour..

Ok what NGK plugs should I get here is the break down

for 9.96 they have what is called OE he said they have 4 times more platnium than other plugs

Then the Iridium for 6.98, he said these are a lower level than OE but arnet these the ones everyone is using??/

SO what should I get???
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see if this helps

http://www.ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1370719
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anyone i need to go pick these up tonight
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Stick with the OE plug

J32-A1
NGK- PZFR5E-11

J32-A2
NGK- PZFR6E-11
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Also is there anything else that is better than NGK plugs?
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Kris how long should it take me to change them out. Its finals week and I will be doing them when I take a break.
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Nothing is better.

a hour to a hour and a half for a novice. 30 min or less for someone who has done it before.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Nothing is better.

a hour to a hour and a half for a novice. 30 min or less for someone who has done it before.

Thank you sir.

Any tips??
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for teh rears get a old blanket or a big towel so that you can lay on the engine to access teh rears easier
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
for teh rears get a old blanket or a big towel so that you can lay on the engine to access teh rears easier

Ummm I am kinda on the heavy side will it be safe for the engine
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im on the heavy side as well

took me about 30 min to do it....the rears are a bitch....especially the one right under the strut bar

Its on the LEFT if you are facing the engine from the front of the car...use an extension for those ones....good luck!
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im on the heavy side as well and i just leaned on the body a little...

took me about 30 min to do it....the rears are a bitch....especially the one right under the strut bar

Its on the LEFT if you are facing the engine from the front of the car...use an extension for those ones....good luck!
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make a 9 inch extension for the socket to do the rears- fits perfect

The NGK is the best brand for our cars and last longest
you wont want to do this job again for a long time!

MANY of us use the new hi tech metal- IRIDIUM- 7 bucks each
some stay with older technology= Platinum
personal choice

Do not gap or touch the plugs except to put a little anti sieze on the threads
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Here's another thread about installing them
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Originally Posted by dnd2984
Ummm I am kinda on the heavy side will it be safe for the engine
It will be safer on that than a fender
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I got the plug and everything to go with them will be changing them out tommorow...
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Is there a certain they need to be installed? Or just put them in and screw them in?
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nothing specific. All you need is a allen wrench to remove teh coil pack and to remove the plastic engine covers. (type-s owners it helps to remove teh 2nd stage actuator)
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YES very important

Lefty loosie
Righty tighty
Thats as you look directly at them
Use a torque wrench or carefully install by feel to makers spec
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I really hope this solves the rough idle. When I am in D5 at the light stopped my idle is really rough.
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Originally Posted by dnd2984
I really hope this solves the rough idle. When I am in D5 at the light stopped my idle is really rough.
Change your mounts lately? Clean the EGR and the IAC? and TB out?
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kris

I have sprayed my TB a few times and I know there are threads on egr clean

What is the IAC- and how to clean??
My car runs fine but you know I am always looking for a little more
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kris

I have sprayed my TB a few times and I know there are threads on egr clean

What is the IAC- and how to clean??
My car runs fine but you know I am always looking for a little more
IAC is Idle Air Control valve. Its located on the bottom of the TB and is held on with just 2 screws. It gets carbon buildup and causes bad idle. Just take it off and clean it, then put a dab of wd40 on it to keep it lubed slightly.
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Thanks Kris

Another DIY just for preventative maitenance!!!

My problem is: one neighbor comes over every time I have the hood up and says "why are you working on that brand new car!" (its a 2001-clean) and the other neighbor comes over with metal polish and buffs out my intake manifold! While it is looking pretty cool......lol
its funny that my TL has become the focal point on a block with a Lotus and MBz and Bmrs and motorhomes and boats etc.

Just my plain jane stealth TL
suckering tailgaters way too deep into a corner heheheh
Some cars turn about as well as a jet-boat
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Change your mounts lately? Clean the EGR and the IAC? and TB out?
Got all new engine mounts when the tranny was replaced in Dec. Does seafoam count for cleaning the EGR.

pics of IAC


Also I was takin a break from studying wonderful Financial Statements for my test, and went to go mess around under the hood. Holy god the coil pack is long. Can I access the back without much trouble?
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Thats because the 01TL is a sexier car than those bmers and mercss



Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
Thanks Kris

Another DIY just for preventative maitenance!!!

My problem is: one neighbor comes over every time I have the hood up and says "why are you working on that brand new car!" (its a 2001-clean) and the other neighbor comes over with metal polish and buffs out my intake manifold! While it is looking pretty cool......lol
its funny that my TL has become the focal point on a block with a Lotus and MBz and Bmrs and motorhomes and boats etc.

Just my plain jane stealth TL
suckering tailgaters way too deep into a corner heheheh
Some cars turn about as well as a jet-boat
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Talking

Kris i think it would be a wise investment if I just flew you done to sunny FL to solve all my TLs needs. I have plenty of beer in the fridge, and tons of college hotties around here....
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So I got bored and did the front 3 plugs. It only took about 10mins. I guess the rears must be a big big bitch then... BUT look at the pics of the old ones. I dipped the other one in seafoam just to see how well it will break down the carbon. The pic is big so u can see the details of a dirty ass sparkplug with 95k miles.

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Wait are they that dirty becasue in the last 1.5 month I sea foamed 3 times to really clean everything out???
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Can the car be used with 3 new plugs and 3 old plugs?
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Would you put in 3 new quarts of oil and 2 used?
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Do you have any issue with oil burning/consumption

My plugs were greyish like they are supposed to be, except the center plug on each side was slightly darker

Those look wet!
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
Do you have any issue with oil burning/consumption

My plugs were greyish like they are supposed to be, except the center plug on each side was slightly darker

Those look wet!
Not that I know of...Cna this lead to a huge issue????
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If your not using any oil- I am just an alarmist- sorry
Check the engine oil now and then between changes.

Pics can be deceptive
Did you do the 20 minute high rev drive after seafoam?

Pull a front plug in 1000 miles and check its color
Why front? - because their easy to reach!
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Originally Posted by dnd2984
Got all new engine mounts when the tranny was replaced in Dec. Does seafoam count for cleaning the EGR.

pics of IAC


Also I was takin a break from studying wonderful Financial Statements for my test, and went to go mess around under the hood. Holy god the coil pack is long. Can I access the back without much trouble?
No seafoaming doesnt count for cleaning the EGR. The intake needs to be removed and hand cleaned.

Yes rears can be accessed without much trouble. Just need to lay over the motor
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Those plugs look fine. They just look old.
Change out all 6, the rears arent any harder, just takes a bit more time cause of having to reach over the motor.
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is there a DIY for cleaning the intake?
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sorry...meant EGR
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yes many threads with pics search EGR
Its just bolts and 3 cans of carb cleaner
May want to install a thermoblock spacer while you have it all apart

Thanks Kris- I thought they may be just really old but always want the owners to keep a close eye on their car. My plugs looked different- but the prior owner may have had them replaced at the dealer early.


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