A travesty of justice. The Comptech S/C generated all this hype and now when the dawn of availability is in sight....the I want its are few to non-existant. Guys, someone spent alot of money paying for people and materials to develop this thing. Thats not cheap nor is the parts content (blower section, jack shaft, fabrications). I am not happy to see the price bashing from those who wouldn't realistically buy this if it were $2500. The Tranny dying is a poor excuse. Torque capacity is quite good on these boxes as long a temperature is kept in check. The units also suffer from assembly contamination related failures that drive the majority of the replacements. This metallic contamination hinders the ability of the solenoids (magnetic when energized) to perform flawlessly which leads to failures. So stop looking for excuses...just applaud Comptech for busting out a product that only some of us can afford....the few who buy now will fund Comptech future developments that we others might afford. Spending money is the only way to support technology....somebody always pays.

 

Well said! truth is I can't afford it but that never stopped me before. Just gotta work more and save. I am going to get it as soon as I pay off my bills after the winter. No use speeding down the icy, rocksalted open road in NYC winters lol:p

 

I agree, I was thinking very similiar thoughts reading some of these threads. Myself, I never planned on getting the SC and instead spent my money on other things for my car.

 

syncivic:
"A travesty of justice. The Comptech S/C generated all this hype and now when the dawn of availability is in sight....the I want its are few to non-existant. Guys, someone spent alot of money paying for people and materials to develop this thing. Thats not cheap nor is the parts content (blower section, jack shaft, fabrications). I am not happy to see the price bashing from those who wouldn't realistically buy this if it were $2500. The Tranny dying is a poor excuse. Torque capacity is quite good on these boxes as long a temperature is kept in check"
Ah but from what I've heard on here...it's not $2500...it supposed to be double. 2.5k I would think about...not twice that.

Austin519

 

I just gotta do the patented Shoof on this one...

 

how much ponies would the sC put out??

dan

 

Syncivic,Yes it costs big bucks to the tune of 4000 plus installation but then again I put ablower on my Miata and it came with all plumbing brackets etc. and it cost about 2500 dollars.Granted it is not as efficient as the Comptech unit but still it seems steep.Even after I added water injection and a timing control unit it still does not add up to the cost of just the kit for the Comptech blower.Just my ten cents worth.Jens

 

Jens, if they cut corners on price, it wouldn't be Comptech from a reputation standpoint. Fabrication of a low volume-high durability piece like the jack-shaft is not cheap...something your Miata doesn't have. Plus, if your Miata is Jackson powered, I believe your unit is a less expensive Roots type charger...or like us racers call them...a heat pump. Thats why you have water injection and a power (read boost) retard. The Comptech unit does not have this set up as inlet temp is controlled by the more efficient screw type charger. Jens, your set-up works well for you...but the Miata powerplant is not a sophisticated V6 that has Acura's reputation of Anvil like reliability.....you should know owners extreme expectations in this market segment. And besides...The Comptech kit will likely retail closer to $4500-4900 range, which will assure only limited quantities but not much fewer than a $3500 kit would sell. People who want results find a way to afford these things

 

off the subject(not really) because similar arguements were going on about the RES ..."I want one daddy and i want one now"faruka:a quote from willie wonka and the chocalte factory i need me some RES doug im like a crack whore...you got me strung out...now i need a fix...damn i cannot type for ****

 

Well I think the issue was cost Syncivic.Ok I know the jackson unit I have is not as efficient as that screw unit but that is also not the issue.What I am saying is that Comptech goes and buys an off the shelf blower like jackson did does a nice install with that and wants a ton of money for it.True enough i am sure it is a nice install but so was my Jackson kit and yes I had to add water injection and a timing control device but all told I still spent less money than the Comptech kit.I also added for what it is worth an electric fuel pressure gauge,boost gauge,rich lean indicator and I still have not come up to the kit price for the Comptech.So what's the deal is that screw blower really cost that much?and no don't tell me certifying the kit for EPA reasons is expensive because my Jackson kit is street legal with CARB numbers as well.Is it the low unit numbers to sell? I say bull to that too Jackson had no way of knowing how many units they would sell neither did Sebring that originally developed the kit.And yet the price was half of that Comptech kit.I like Comptech and install alot of their parts but bottom line they are expensive.jens

 

im going w/jens on this one...its too expensive and not worth the trouble of having to replace parts due to the SC or just plain out hardcore driving after the install...i give them respect for meeting the demand for the product, but seriously how many people do they expect to supply with a 5-6K price tag...if you say not many, that's pretty dumb because they could more than quadrouple their profits just by slashing the price of the unit in half...I guess that's what sets comptech from other companies and says something when people buy their products...just my $.02...Shyne

 

Just my .02, and from what I heard at Comptech.

In reference to the NSX....
There are two types of owners....the first group (80%) are the ones that can flat out afford an exotic. They are the ones that figure for a clean install and CARB certification for a rare product is worth $10K. The second group (20%) are the ones who eked out just enough money to buy a NSX, new or used. They are the ones that fight for every little discount and complain about the price of the SC.

Well, very similar to a CL/TL situation....they are filling a niche....if you want performance, clean install, and reliability.....you'll go with Comptech. If you think that their price of $4500 is too high...figure that the price is on par with the S2K blower...and that blower is nowhere near as pricey as a twin screw.

Jens...I know that all you are saying is that they are expensive...in response to your Miata, Jackson cut corners on the product to reduce cost. Remember the miata when it came out was a $20K car...the CL/TL is $10K more...and a bit more sophisticated. Also, I seem to see adds for twin screws for the Miata costing close to $4K themselves.

 

Jackson racing cut corners??? where? it seems to me that the kit went in as designed came with nicely made brackets high quality hardware functions as designed and performs as promised.So if there is corner cutting I did not notice it.Plus they have excellent product support and fast shipping.And what difference does the base price of the car make? Both systems required time money and energy to design develop and certify.So from what I am reading here a person buying a "cheap" little sports car is going to pay less for what is essentially the same idea than a person who spent 10 k more?????Makes me kind of glad I own a cheap little car!
I have installed Comptechs blower kit on an S2000 and yeah it's nice but it is also very noisy and uses cheap non metric hardware on some parts.Judging by the pictures the blower kit for the TL/CL looks nice,an off the shelf blower a few custom elbows for the intake a big chunk of alloy for that jackshaft a few bearings a piece of pipe and tadah!! If they made the same thing for a Miata it would be a few thousand less??? C'mon that's bull! Jens

 

I don't think it's a matter of price as much as it is value and return on investment. I traded a C36 AMG (a performance sedan) for my TL-S (a powerful touring sedan) because I was tired of the $1K monthly payment and the stiff ride that was a bit much for a daily driver. When I bought the C36 I was looking for a performance sedan and was willing to pay $57K to get what I wanted. To expect a $30K car built on the Accord platform with $5-8K worth of mods to be comparable isn't realistic.

People on the board that drive their TL's hard are already experiencing issues with brake and transmission performance. The TL was not engineered to be a performance sedan. All the springs, sways, struts, brake upgrades, L-10 transmission upgrades, headers, CAI's, RES, and super chargers in the world aren't going to make the car something it was never engineered to be.

At the end of the day, spending $5K-8K to enhance a TL doesn't make economic sense. You're not going to get that money back at resale and as these performance mods get more and more aggressive there’s greater risk of Acura refusing to warranty major components of the car that could go bad. You'd be better off getting a certified used BMW M or M-B AMG or something like a 540i six-speed or GS400/430 whose inherent design and equipment make them better performance cars right out of the box. At least you'd get more of your investment back when you trade the car in and wouldn’t have to worry about potential warranty issues.

Don't misunderstand. I love my TL-S and think it's a great car for the price. I'm also not criticizing those that spend big bucks on mods for their cars - everyone has a right to their own approach and opinion. I just wanted to share what I consider a pragmatic view from having reading all the pro and con posts on the board both about the car itself and mods in general.

 

Barry I sure would hate to quote everything you said but that would be nonsense...It all makes sense and goes along the lines of why I would never purchase a SC...I think it would be more appropriate for a CL to have the SC as opposed to the TL...People are gonna do what they want anyways, but there is nothing wrong with adding an intake or exhaust just to use that extra hidden power our cars already have...I just wouldnt go out of my way to purchase this thing when yes I could get a C32AMG w/350 hp and grease all of you...Shyne

 

Yet I agree with you on this one...

Why go through all those hassle if you have to spend so much money on the car. The TL is around 30k let's say, the SC kit gonna cost you 4.5k, plus tranny work another 2.5k. Get yourself a set of rim, coil over, brake upgrades. We are talking about something like 40 to 45k here. That's Audi S4 and M3 money.

Remember that before you upgrade your engine, you will ALWAYS need to get braking, suspension, and tires upgraded.

 

Honestly if viewed purely from a financial standpoint modding any car is nuts.The real reason people do it is largely because it is fun.Best case scenario modding out your car will possibly increase it's value ten percent of the cost of the mods if you are lucky.But most of us are not that lucky.My Miata cost me about 7200$ I added some 8000$ in mods and gauranteed I will lose my *ss when I finally decide to sell the car.But while I owned it I had fun with the car adding things as money allowed.I feel the same way about our customers who elect to go with mods on their vehicles.These people are having fun and I wholly support that and will gladly modify their cars to whatever level they desire.This kind of work is far more rewarding than boring oil changes.Sure adding a blower or whatever will raise the price of a car to the level of a more expensive car but the other side of that is that many people myself included do not have the financial moxie to go and blow a big wad of cash on an expensive car.Instead like myself many people buy a less expensive car and as finances allow add things to it to make it a more exciting car than it was from the factory.Besides just because a Benz or Audi or whatever luxo cruiser one dreams about these cars can also be modded out raising their total price to the next level of car prices.So in the end it makes no difference you see.People will go and want to mod up their cars regardless of the entry fee to own whatever kind of car it is.The bottom line is go and have fun you only live once and you can' take it with you.Jens