Question for someone who has driven a TL-P AND a TL-S

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Old 04-02-2015, 03:40 PM
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Question for someone who has driven a TL-P AND a TL-S

I swapped from TL-P power steering to a TL-S power steering system.

The steering wheel now locks much earlier than on my original steering rack. I can't turn as tightly when parking and such. Is this just because of the different TL-S steering rack, or maybe I missed something during the install.

Has anyone who has driven both cars noticed this? If you have a TL-S, could you count the number of turns the steering wheel makes from lock to lock?

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TL-S has a sharper steering rack for precision driving at high speed.
TL-p has a relaxed rack for comfort around town and low speed.

It's normal.
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Originally Posted by Skirmich
TL-S has a sharper steering rack for precision driving at high speed.
TL-p has a relaxed rack for comfort around town and low speed.

It's normal.
That's not what I'm referring to. I mean the TL-S rack seems to lock way too early, like the wheels only can turn half way.

I guess I'll try to find a TL-S to test drive to figure out of it's normal.
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Steering wheels turns, lock to lock:

TL-P - 3.11
TL-S - 2.88

It's about 1/4 turn difference between the two. Check exactly how many turns it takes to move the wheels from full right to full left or vice versa and go from there.
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Originally Posted by Karanx7
That's not what I'm referring to. I mean the TL-S rack seems to lock way too early, like the wheels only can turn half way.

I guess I'll try to find a TL-S to test drive to figure out of it's normal.




TL-S does actually turn the same distance than TL-p the difference is the spaces in the teeth in the Steering Rack! TL-S turns more at each full clock than the TL-p that's why it locks earlier. This is normal.
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Originally Posted by Skirmich
TL-S does actually turn the same distance than TL-p the difference is the spaces in the teeth in the Steering Rack! TL-S turns more at each full clock than the TL-p that's why it locks earlier. This is normal.
In that case, then my rack is not normal. I'm saying at full lock, the car doesn't turn very sharply.

I could take a U turn no problem with the TL-P rack, but the TL-S rack has no chance of turning sharp enough. It's like WAY less turning angle even at full lock.
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Perhaps I have to drive a TLp more but my TL-S has never been the sharpest turner in the world... I can't for example do a clean U Turn on my street without reversing while my bros Pathfinder can do it on 1 move with no reverse.
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Yea the TL has a pretty big turning radius.
Kinda disappointing really lol.
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Lets be honest the 2G TL is a giant Boat I still remember in a meeting my 2G being as long as a Buick Roadmaster!
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Lol Old time post!

going through your history skirm?

But I think the OP was having an issue with his wheel not going to full lock for some reason.

If OP is still here I would recommend going for an alignment and ask the Tech to look at it.
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Yah Karanx! Did you ever resolved this issue?
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Originally Posted by Gabru678
Lol Old time post!

going through your history skirm?

But I think the OP was having an issue with his wheel not going to full lock for some reason.

If OP is still here I would recommend going for an alignment and ask the Tech to look at it.
I've had it aligned, but that's a good idea. I'll disconnect the steering column from the rack, and see if the rack can still turn after the wheel has locked. That would explain it for sure.
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My lowered TL does not have the sharpest turning radius either. Surprisingly so.
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Originally Posted by Karanx7
I've had it aligned, but that's a good idea. I'll disconnect the steering column from the rack, and see if the rack can still turn after the wheel has locked. That would explain it for sure.
Don't disconnect the rack and turn the steering wheel. It's real easy to go too far and destroy the cable reel (clock spring). A lot of manufacturers want you to secure the steering wheel when you remove the rack to keep it from moving. There are no stops in the steering wheel or column; they're in the rack.
With the tires pointing straight ahead, is the steering wheel level, and not upside down? Again, with the tires straight ahead, does the steering wheel turn an equal amount to the left and right stops?
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Sounds like the steering rack was not properly centered before install.
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