rysky007

ok lets say u have a short ram intake, is it possible to give it to much air to take in at one time or for a period of time to harm teh ingine or stall it or cause long term damage, its there a peak of how much air can be sent to the intake??? sorry if stupid question just thinking of making my own turbo kinda thing

ChucksCL-S

No, you can't give it too much air. Since engines are nothing more than air pumps anyway, the bore and stroke dimensions, valve size and throttle body size plus RPM's determine how much air is being consumed. As the pistons go downward, some combination of atmospheric pressure/ suction fills the void. Superchargers and Turbos force more air in under pressure, but to make use of that you need to add more fuel as well. In stock engines the O2 senser, the mass air flow sensor and others determine the air fuel ratio at any time. Our intakes just free up the factory restrictive (but that is for noise control also) air box and will add horsepower. But to be better, I'd route that air from behind the bumper where it is cooler.

rysky007

so lets say i take a fan and turn it on to grab cold air and shove it rite into the intake filter will that cause damage?

badazzTL

haha im sure it would cause damage if you just "shove" it in ur filter

badazzTL

BTW if you put a fan in there i would guess its just an airflow restriction which decreases horsepower, unless ur talking about an electric powered fan
lol one of my friends said you can make a custom supercharger by hooking up a leafblower to ur intake well whatever you do make sure you post results and pics

ChucksCL-S

No regular electric fan could force enough air in there to help. At speed the air at the front of the car is pressurized alittle anyway. You would not hurt the motor. Best ways are cold air thru a K&N or similiar, then turbo charging or supercharging. Turbos are more efficient but superchargers cost less.

badazzTL

wouldnt it be funny if the fan got sucked up through the intake
how would you explain that to ur dealer

Ray_Khan

there is a company called raor that made intakes. nots ure if they are still around and if they make a TLS version, but they do exactly what you want to do. They make just an intake, then there is an option of a hose that has an electric fan inside. This hose connects to the filter and to some point on the car where it can act as a good cold air inlet. Since the fan is electric and always running, it brings in air at idle. A friend has one and swears by it. He said it was a pita to install though. Roar's instructions were crap. Just some info for you
www.roarinc.com

rysky007

i would only use this for take off, when the car is not in motion just give it some better air intake, im sure once the car is moving it can grab air farely well, all im pretty much tryin got figure out is is it possible to give it to much air to suck in.. also can some one give me a breif description of how turbo's and superchargers work??

Ray_Khan

and look up how a turbo or supercharger works. Basically, they are compressors that compress air form the the airbox and send it to the engine. They can push quite a bit of air to the engine. My Audi turbo is pushing 15 psi right now....should be around 22 psi after a turbo swap. Basically, a turbo is spun by exhaust gases in teh exhaut manifold. So it is very efficient in using wastes to make it go. The SC comes in different types, roots type and centrifigul etc. They are spun off the crank. they are driven by a pulley, so they aren't efficient like a turbo, but their response is much quicker. Turbos lg a bit sicne they don't really get spinnign until there is a lot of exhasut gas(until higher RPM). This is turbo lag. It's different for every type of turbo....bigger turbos = more top end power = more lag. Having a good exhasut manifold (header) helps with lag. Just s start, now go read.