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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 05:37 PM
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I was just at my local Acura dealership getting my TL oil changed and the service guy there told me that Acura will be comming out with a 6spd. TL-S. Anyone else hear this rumour?
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 05:39 PM
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I heard that too, as well as that I think motorweek had a report on that as well...

I wonder if they will modify the parking brake to hand operated.
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 05:39 PM
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CLS for sure.....
TLS not dicided though....
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 07:37 PM
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How would you know? They are going to used the same trany that the RSX comes with. I'm sure they will put it on both. Think for a second, both TL and CL have a type S versions, so why would they offer it on the CL and not the TL.
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CLS for sure.....
TLS not dicided though....


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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 08:15 PM
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Product cannabilization.
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 09:02 PM
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The CL-S will have it first, then maybe the TL-S will get it too. Just like how the CL-S came out before the TL-S

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 09:09 PM
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No 6 speed CL for 2002. Confirmed by quite a few people, including Wayne from Park Ave Acura.

Oh well, maybe next year
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 09:17 PM
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Great thank you Acura! I bust my ass when the acura TL came out in 99 i finally bought it in 2000. And a few months later a rumor came out that a Type S is going to come out and it did.. Now a 6 speed? Man i think im just going to sell my Arm and LEG this time.. or Sell my Organs and just call it quits and get a ASTON MARTIN LOL!
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 10:30 PM
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I heard that they were going to do the 6 speed for sure for 2003 and i was talking to this guy at miami acura and he said he had also heard somthing like that.

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by MeGaTrOn:
Great thank you Acura! I bust my ass when the acura TL came out in 99 i finally bought it in 2000. And a few months later a rumor came out that a Type S is going to come out and it did.. Now a 6 speed? Man i think im just going to sell my Arm and LEG this time.. or Sell my Organs and just call it quits and get a ASTON MARTIN LOL!
Thanks alot ACURA!!!!!!! I think ill just get a SATURN!!!!!
that's the way it is. I got my pentium, then pentium with mmx came out, got that, and pentium 2 came out, got that again and pentium 3 came out, got that and athlon t-bird came out, have that right now, but it's getting faster and fastre, so... that's the way it it, don't complain.


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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 08:27 AM
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Relax guys, it's not happening, at least not for a good one or two model years. Like NSXNEXT said, dealers are confirming that it's not coming. I know we don't all trust dealers, but Wayne knows his stuff....


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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 08:38 AM
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I doubt the six speed will come out in the current TL model. Acura/Honda has a long history of a four year product life cycle (except of course the Integra, but they didn't know what to do with it as they moved to alpha numeric model names). The current body came out in '99, making a new model due in 2003. Acura would have to modify the parking break taking it from the floor to the center console. This would require to much re-work of the dash and center console. Therefore, I think the six speed will not come out until the next model. Just my two cents....

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 08:51 AM
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The could leave the e-brake on the floor. They don't have to move it to the center console, but it will suck if they did.

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I doubt the six speed will come out in the current TL model. Acura/Honda has a long history of a four year product life cycle (except of course the Integra, but they didn't know what to do with it as they moved to alpha numeric model names). The current body came out in '99, making a new model due in 2003. Acura would have to modify the parking break taking it from the floor to the center console. This would require to much re-work of the dash and center console. Therefore, I think the six speed will not come out until the next model. Just my two cents....



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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Bitium:
The could leave the e-brake on the floor. They don't have to move it to the center console, but it will suck if they did.



That just seems ridiculous to leave the brake on the floor. What stick shift car has it down there?
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 10:28 AM
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I don't remember out of my head, but I have seen them before. My point was that they Don't have to. Of course it will be ridiculous to leave it there . My loaner is a automatic escort with e-brake on the center console....I was having so much fun last night driving it .

Originally posted by seadog:
That just seems ridiculous to leave the brake on the floor. What stick shift car has it down there?


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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:03 PM
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Listen you punk...I'm going to kill you...Of course is not going to be the same trany, but they would used the RSX trany to design the TL/CL type S, plus they are going to used a lot of the parts that the RSX trany has....OK OK OK. Don't quote me on thisRon!!!

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The 6-speed manual, when it arrives, will NOT be the same unit of the RSX. The transmission bellhousings are not the same size/shape and therefore they wouldn't bolt up. Not to mention that the engine of the RSX requires much shorter gearing than would be feasible for use in the CL-S/TL-S.

Going on the words of Dick Colliver, he said a 6-speed is coming to the CL-S. I've read that this could very well trickle down to the TL-S as well since the engineering, to use their words, would be "minimal". I don't know where the e-brake would be located, but I'd like to think they'd put a hand-operated lever in the center console... having 4 pedals down there would make it very tight for my size 16 hoofs.

Only time will tell if any of this actually materializes, but I'm hoping it will. My lease is up in early 2003 so I don't mind if they wait another year before actually going ahead with it



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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 03:26 PM
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NO! You listen here, Slappy...

Acura's had 6-speed manual transmissions in the past (the Legend GS Sedan and LS Coupe) so they know how to make them in the first place. It's not rocket science to begin with. Just shaddup and go play with your CF door panel trim..

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 03:40 PM
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Listen punk, Acura hire me to design their trany for the TL.....so shut up.....J/K. . Oh you are going to like the CF trim...hehehehe. We could go a few rounds on are next meet

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NO! You listen here, Slappy...

Acura's had 6-speed manual transmissions in the past (the Legend GS Sedan and LS Coupe) so they know how to make them in the first place. It's not rocket science to begin with. Just shaddup and go play with your CF door panel trim..



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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Bitium:
I don't remember out of my head, but I have seen them before. My point was that they Don't have to. Of course it will be ridiculous to leave it there . My loaner is a automatic escort with e-brake on the center console....I was having so much fun last night driving it .


I love driving loaner cars. Especially light weight ones with emergency brakes in the center console. Perfect opportunity to practice my bootlegger move. I don't think I've ever returned a loaner without a bald set of rear tires. Back to the issue though, if they left the e-brake on the floor, it sure would be crowded down there with e-brake, clutch, brake, and accelerator!


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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:23 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure. They have to put it on the center console, I don't think it would be that much work anyways. I took the whole center console out once and all they have to do is redisign the cup holder and make space for the e-brake. After the shifter where there is a line, after that the hold thing comes out in one piece. Plus you could see the cables going to the back from the floor e-brake. so if they redisign that part, they cables are already there, so just plug and play .....we should have it for the 03'TL type S.....heheheheh

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I love driving loaner cars. Especially light weight ones with emergency brakes in the center console. Perfect opportunity to practice my bootlegger move. I don't think I've ever returned a loaner without a bald set of rear tires. Back to the issue though, if they left the e-brake on the floor, it sure would be crowded down there with e-brake, clutch, brake, and accelerator!




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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:33 PM
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The 6-speed manual, when it arrives, will NOT be the same unit of the RSX. The transmission bellhousings are not the same size/shape and therefore they wouldn't bolt up. Not to mention that the engine of the RSX requires much shorter gearing than would be feasible for use in the CL-S/TL-S.

Going on the words of Dick Colliver, he said a 6-speed is coming to the CL-S. I've read that this could very well trickle down to the TL-S as well since the engineering, to use their words, would be "minimal". I don't know where the e-brake would be located, but I'd like to think they'd put a hand-operated lever in the center console... having 4 pedals down there would make it very tight for my size 16 hoofs.

Only time will tell if any of this actually materializes, but I'm hoping it will. My lease is up in early 2003 so I don't mind if they wait another year before actually going ahead with it

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