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PLEASE HELP Looking to buy my first acura tl IS THIS A GOOD DEAL????
07-31-2009, 05:20 AM
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PLEASE HELP Looking to buy my first acura tl IS THIS A GOOD DEAL????
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Hi I am looking to buy my first TL. I found one:
2002 ACURA TL (non type s)
51000 miles
1st owner
Clean title
no accidents
Brand NEW transmission from Acura last week (except tranny case),
NEW front engine mount last week
White with beige interior non navi.
It has no WARRANTY ON ANYTHING. The seller wants 8600 firm. Is this a good deal??? IS it worth buying? Im pretty much spending all I have on this car so im hesitant. Whats the chances the tranny or anything thing else breaks down?
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Hi I am looking to buy my first TL. I found one:
2002 ACURA TL (non type s)
51000 miles
1st owner
Clean title
no accidents
Brand NEW transmission from Acura last week (except tranny case),
NEW front engine mount last week
White with beige interior non navi.
It has no WARRANTY ON ANYTHING. The seller wants 8600 firm. Is this a good deal??? IS it worth buying? Im pretty much spending all I have on this car so im hesitant. Whats the chances the tranny or anything thing else breaks down?
PLEASE RESPOND ANYTHING HELPS!!!
07-31-2009, 11:13 AM
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that sounds like a really good deal. just make sure you get verification of some kinda warranty on the tranny. our trannies have habbit of abruptly failing, which is NOT cool. make sure u have something to fall back on if that does happen. Acura offers a replacement warranty up to 109k miles i believe, but make sure the previous owner didnt somehow disable that when getting the new tranny. other then that, these are SUPERB machines. i have the same model as this one, and i absolutely love it. 8600 is not bad for that too.
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07-31-2009, 01:23 PM
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Pretty good deal...I’m a bit weary of someone dumping a TL (very low mileage) right after a brand new tranny/motor mounts have been installed! Seem a bit fishy? Double check that the tranny was done by Acura (should be warranty if that is the case), and have an independent shop that you trust, take a look at the overall condition of the car. 
07-31-2009, 01:26 PM
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Pretty good deal...I’m a bit weary of someone dumping a TL (very low mileage) right after a brand new tranny/motor mounts have been installed! Seem a bit fishy? Double check that the tranny was done by Acura (should be warranty if that is the case), and have an independent shop that you trust, take a look at the overall condition of the car.
acura gives out 3 yr 36k mile warranties now on replaced trannys so i would ask for proof that acura did in fact replace it.
07-31-2009, 02:27 PM
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Do you have problems with the smell of cigarette smoke? If so, ask if the car has ever been smoked in. The smell of smoke can be incredibly difficult to get out of a car.
As mentioned above, since Acura installed the transmission there should be some amount of warranty on it. The transmission can be a huge reliability issue for 2nd gen TLs. A non-warranty replacement can approach $4000.
Call Acura with the VIN number and they should be able to tell you if there's any warranty. If you call the dealer directly, they might even be willing to tell you if all recommended work was done to the car. For example, if the owner declined to pay for new engine mounts all around, you could be in for a big repair bill.
Before I bought my 1999 TL, the former owner's dealership told me that the car had been serviced there for years and every recommended service was always approved by the owner.
You might want to run a Carfax report just to see where the car has been registered and to confirm that there was only one owner.
If you have a decent mechanic, you might want to see if he'd be willing to check the car out for a nominal fee.
Good luck!
As mentioned above, since Acura installed the transmission there should be some amount of warranty on it. The transmission can be a huge reliability issue for 2nd gen TLs. A non-warranty replacement can approach $4000.
Call Acura with the VIN number and they should be able to tell you if there's any warranty. If you call the dealer directly, they might even be willing to tell you if all recommended work was done to the car. For example, if the owner declined to pay for new engine mounts all around, you could be in for a big repair bill.
Before I bought my 1999 TL, the former owner's dealership told me that the car had been serviced there for years and every recommended service was always approved by the owner.
You might want to run a Carfax report just to see where the car has been registered and to confirm that there was only one owner.
If you have a decent mechanic, you might want to see if he'd be willing to check the car out for a nominal fee.
Good luck!
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07-31-2009, 03:12 PM
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Well the tranny has the original warranty that came with the car, I talked to the mechanic and he said the car was in great condition EXCEPT for the left side motor mount has some wear but does not have to be replaced yet. THE front motor mount has been replaced since it was broken said the tech at acura. The tranny warranty is covered under the original warranty till 2011 i think. The original owner said he is leaving the state and thats why he is selling it.
07-31-2009, 11:33 PM
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^^^
Agree 100%
My 01 TL is still rock solid! But I still regret not getting a Type S instead! Especially now in the used car market, I’m sure the Type S is only $500 up to $1500 more then a TL-P
Agree 100%
My 01 TL is still rock solid! But I still regret not getting a Type S instead! Especially now in the used car market, I’m sure the Type S is only $500 up to $1500 more then a TL-P
08-01-2009, 10:50 AM
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lets get some facts straight please~
The front motor mount is often broken and found at trans failure time- the first time anyone looked up at it~ much cheaper labor to replace it with trans out .3/$30 vs 2.5 hrs $250
Never have I heard of or seen a TL with all 5 mounts broken- the front one goes because we dont have an upper engine torque bar, so the mount takes abuse-
then the right side is suddenly taking more load- it goes- then the rear on very few cars goes,,, if you havnt noticed the slight rough feeling of broken mounts before then- very hard to tell on these trick mounts unless you experienced it before
The front and rear mounts are special $120 `fluid filled` and some years even vacuum boosted! so a bad mount is a problem in several ways and can make engine run rough
an `IN warranty` trans replacement - does actually come with a `new case` or one made after 05 and rebuilt again after early failure--
but the point is: acura rebuilts have a new case design over the one that came with the car- it does not solve the problem but is better by far,,maybe 25% failure compared to 50-60%
It contains new and used parts they got from other warranty returned units
In warranty replacements comes with a standard parts warranty/ trans replacement warranty of 12/12
thats all
An out of warranty- `goodwill job` where you paid something towards replacement, they sell you a $300 a 3/36 warranty...its often right in the bill- charged 15$ for something and 300 for your part of goodwill- total $315 and you are happy!!
The `in warranty` replacement trans is still covered by the 7.9/109 (114.5 for odo error cars) warranty
Salesman dont know facts- they talk too much BS to understand the special trans warranty for gen2 --- as ordered by the court
If you are putting everything you have into buying the TL- its a bad choice for a car
Monthly Expenses abound- must use 91 octane gas, tires are 100-200 each! 50k miles its ready for brake pads and maybe front rotors- you cant use junk on the TL - it will protest
Has the brake fluid been flushed a few times in the cars history??- is it clean and clear now? no- rebuilt calipers 75 each, master cyl 100...
Though the OPs car has low miles, 50,, its on the 7 year mark for the 105 major service
figure $1200-1400 for that
See the recent thread on belt broken melted- engine destroyed
The dealer should provide a COMPLETE- not the mini teaser version found online- Carfax report
Note that carfax only knows what it has been told- accidents etc- but someone has to tell it, and its not required to notify them if insurance company doesnt pay out a claim on that car
acura customer care will know any warranty history of a car you like
1-800-382-2238 x5 need the VIN
****Everyone should register there as the owner- they send out the recall notices to last known address, and some of you will be getting one for the airbag soon- see thread on subject
For a student, I would get a regular honda with its better warranty, economy of operation and still easy to fix up a little to be faster or corner and stop better
The car salesman is only looking at their commission- not at your actual needs beyond- Salesman sees you are young-say, this car looks cool- you will get chicks with it!!
buy it today~~
The front motor mount is often broken and found at trans failure time- the first time anyone looked up at it~ much cheaper labor to replace it with trans out .3/$30 vs 2.5 hrs $250
Never have I heard of or seen a TL with all 5 mounts broken- the front one goes because we dont have an upper engine torque bar, so the mount takes abuse-
then the right side is suddenly taking more load- it goes- then the rear on very few cars goes,,, if you havnt noticed the slight rough feeling of broken mounts before then- very hard to tell on these trick mounts unless you experienced it before
The front and rear mounts are special $120 `fluid filled` and some years even vacuum boosted! so a bad mount is a problem in several ways and can make engine run rough
an `IN warranty` trans replacement - does actually come with a `new case` or one made after 05 and rebuilt again after early failure--
but the point is: acura rebuilts have a new case design over the one that came with the car- it does not solve the problem but is better by far,,maybe 25% failure compared to 50-60%
It contains new and used parts they got from other warranty returned units
In warranty replacements comes with a standard parts warranty/ trans replacement warranty of 12/12
thats all
An out of warranty- `goodwill job` where you paid something towards replacement, they sell you a $300 a 3/36 warranty...its often right in the bill- charged 15$ for something and 300 for your part of goodwill- total $315 and you are happy!!
The `in warranty` replacement trans is still covered by the 7.9/109 (114.5 for odo error cars) warranty
Salesman dont know facts- they talk too much BS to understand the special trans warranty for gen2 --- as ordered by the court
If you are putting everything you have into buying the TL- its a bad choice for a car
Monthly Expenses abound- must use 91 octane gas, tires are 100-200 each! 50k miles its ready for brake pads and maybe front rotors- you cant use junk on the TL - it will protest
Has the brake fluid been flushed a few times in the cars history??- is it clean and clear now? no- rebuilt calipers 75 each, master cyl 100...
Though the OPs car has low miles, 50,, its on the 7 year mark for the 105 major service
figure $1200-1400 for that
See the recent thread on belt broken melted- engine destroyed
The dealer should provide a COMPLETE- not the mini teaser version found online- Carfax report
Note that carfax only knows what it has been told- accidents etc- but someone has to tell it, and its not required to notify them if insurance company doesnt pay out a claim on that car
acura customer care will know any warranty history of a car you like
1-800-382-2238 x5 need the VIN
****Everyone should register there as the owner- they send out the recall notices to last known address, and some of you will be getting one for the airbag soon- see thread on subject
For a student, I would get a regular honda with its better warranty, economy of operation and still easy to fix up a little to be faster or corner and stop better
The car salesman is only looking at their commission- not at your actual needs beyond- Salesman sees you are young-say, this car looks cool- you will get chicks with it!!
buy it today~~
08-01-2009, 10:56 AM
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I really like the look of the dash with a nav unit- it also has electronic control of the ac system--you can find non S with nav occassionaly
The basic dash has some cheap looking plastic knobs and faceplate,,, in a leather interior--crazy
oh yea- you will need as new nav disc- $200
The basic dash has some cheap looking plastic knobs and faceplate,,, in a leather interior--crazy
oh yea- you will need as new nav disc- $200
08-01-2009, 06:19 PM
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wow you really know your stuff 01tl4tl. The car has had the front engine mount replaced with the transmission. The right engine mount has some wear but was not replaced. Acura replaced the transmission but the tech told me they did not replace the CASE of the tranny only the internals, if that makes any difference? He did add that the transmission had all the updates of 2009 w/e that is. The car is being sold privately not by a dealer.
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lets get some facts straight please~
The front motor mount is often broken and found at trans failure time- the first time anyone looked up at it~ much cheaper labor to replace it with trans out .3/$30 vs 2.5 hrs $250
Never have I heard of or seen a TL with all 5 mounts broken- the front one goes because we dont have an upper engine torque bar, so the mount takes abuse-
then the right side is suddenly taking more load- it goes- then the rear on very few cars goes,,, if you havnt noticed the slight rough feeling of broken mounts before then- very hard to tell on these trick mounts unless you experienced it before
The front and rear mounts are special $120 `fluid filled` and some years even vacuum boosted! so a bad mount is a problem in several ways and can make engine run rough
an `IN warranty` trans replacement - does actually come with a `new case` or one made after 05 and rebuilt again after early failure--
but the point is: acura rebuilts have a new case design over the one that came with the car- it does not solve the problem but is better by far,,maybe 25% failure compared to 50-60%
It contains new and used parts they got from other warranty returned units
In warranty replacements comes with a standard parts warranty/ trans replacement warranty of 12/12
thats all
An out of warranty- `goodwill job` where you paid something towards replacement, they sell you a $300 a 3/36 warranty...its often right in the bill- charged 15$ for something and 300 for your part of goodwill- total $315 and you are happy!!
The `in warranty` replacement trans is still covered by the 7.9/109 (114.5 for odo error cars) warranty
Salesman dont know facts- they talk too much BS to understand the special trans warranty for gen2 --- as ordered by the court
If you are putting everything you have into buying the TL- its a bad choice for a car
Monthly Expenses abound- must use 91 octane gas, tires are 100-200 each! 50k miles its ready for brake pads and maybe front rotors- you cant use junk on the TL - it will protest
Has the brake fluid been flushed a few times in the cars history??- is it clean and clear now? no- rebuilt calipers 75 each, master cyl 100...
Though the OPs car has low miles, 50,, its on the 7 year mark for the 105 major service
figure $1200-1400 for that
See the recent thread on belt broken melted- engine destroyed
The dealer should provide a COMPLETE- not the mini teaser version found online- Carfax report
Note that carfax only knows what it has been told- accidents etc- but someone has to tell it, and its not required to notify them if insurance company doesnt pay out a claim on that car
acura customer care will know any warranty history of a car you like
1-800-382-2238 x5 need the VIN
****Everyone should register there as the owner- they send out the recall notices to last known address, and some of you will be getting one for the airbag soon- see thread on subject
For a student, I would get a regular honda with its better warranty, economy of operation and still easy to fix up a little to be faster or corner and stop better
The car salesman is only looking at their commission- not at your actual needs beyond- Salesman sees you are young-say, this car looks cool- you will get chicks with it!!
buy it today~~
The front motor mount is often broken and found at trans failure time- the first time anyone looked up at it~ much cheaper labor to replace it with trans out .3/$30 vs 2.5 hrs $250
Never have I heard of or seen a TL with all 5 mounts broken- the front one goes because we dont have an upper engine torque bar, so the mount takes abuse-
then the right side is suddenly taking more load- it goes- then the rear on very few cars goes,,, if you havnt noticed the slight rough feeling of broken mounts before then- very hard to tell on these trick mounts unless you experienced it before
The front and rear mounts are special $120 `fluid filled` and some years even vacuum boosted! so a bad mount is a problem in several ways and can make engine run rough
an `IN warranty` trans replacement - does actually come with a `new case` or one made after 05 and rebuilt again after early failure--
but the point is: acura rebuilts have a new case design over the one that came with the car- it does not solve the problem but is better by far,,maybe 25% failure compared to 50-60%
It contains new and used parts they got from other warranty returned units
In warranty replacements comes with a standard parts warranty/ trans replacement warranty of 12/12
thats all
An out of warranty- `goodwill job` where you paid something towards replacement, they sell you a $300 a 3/36 warranty...its often right in the bill- charged 15$ for something and 300 for your part of goodwill- total $315 and you are happy!!
The `in warranty` replacement trans is still covered by the 7.9/109 (114.5 for odo error cars) warranty
Salesman dont know facts- they talk too much BS to understand the special trans warranty for gen2 --- as ordered by the court
If you are putting everything you have into buying the TL- its a bad choice for a car
Monthly Expenses abound- must use 91 octane gas, tires are 100-200 each! 50k miles its ready for brake pads and maybe front rotors- you cant use junk on the TL - it will protest
Has the brake fluid been flushed a few times in the cars history??- is it clean and clear now? no- rebuilt calipers 75 each, master cyl 100...
Though the OPs car has low miles, 50,, its on the 7 year mark for the 105 major service
figure $1200-1400 for that
See the recent thread on belt broken melted- engine destroyed
The dealer should provide a COMPLETE- not the mini teaser version found online- Carfax report
Note that carfax only knows what it has been told- accidents etc- but someone has to tell it, and its not required to notify them if insurance company doesnt pay out a claim on that car
acura customer care will know any warranty history of a car you like
1-800-382-2238 x5 need the VIN
****Everyone should register there as the owner- they send out the recall notices to last known address, and some of you will be getting one for the airbag soon- see thread on subject
For a student, I would get a regular honda with its better warranty, economy of operation and still easy to fix up a little to be faster or corner and stop better
The car salesman is only looking at their commission- not at your actual needs beyond- Salesman sees you are young-say, this car looks cool- you will get chicks with it!!
buy it today~~
wow you really know your stuff 01tl4tl. The car has had the front engine mount replaced with the transmission. The right engine mount has some wear but was not replaced. Acura replaced the transmission but the tech told me they did not replace the CASE of the tranny only the internals, if that makes any difference? He did add that the transmission had all the updates of 2009 w/e that is. The car is being sold privately not by a dealer.
08-01-2009, 09:32 PM
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IMO with all our 2nd gens now near or expired tranny warranty now. i would look at another car. if u like the car and aware of the costs for a rebuilt tranny if it dies tommorrow...go for it. but if u are going over ur budget and got nothing extra on the side if the worst case scenario happens, i wouldnt do it....
If u want something close to the 2nd gen tl, go for a 6spd cls...other than that id stay away...
If u want something close to the 2nd gen tl, go for a 6spd cls...other than that id stay away...
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Im saying do not buy because there is no warranty. Just think what if something goes wrong and you dont have a warranty, these TLs are known for some tranny problems, and im planning on buying a 2003 TL Type S this October so Im in the same possition as you.
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wow you really know your stuff 01tl4tl. The car has had the front engine mount replaced with the transmission. The right engine mount has some wear but was not replaced. Acura replaced the transmission but the tech told me they did not replace the CASE of the tranny only the internals, if that makes any difference? He did add that the transmission had all the updates of 2009 w/e that is. The car is being sold privately not by a dealer.
It's the NEW case design that supposedly cures the tranny problem with the fluid flow throughout the tranny.
01tl4tl is the voice of reason around here-you should listen to what he is telling you.
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If they DID NOT replace the transmission case, they rebuilt the transmission with THE SAME CASE THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM TO START WITH.
It's the NEW case design that supposedly cures the tranny problem with the fluid flow throughout the tranny.
01tl4tl is the voice of reason around here-you should listen to what he is telling you.
It's the NEW case design that supposedly cures the tranny problem with the fluid flow throughout the tranny.
01tl4tl is the voice of reason around here-you should listen to what he is telling you.
Well I have talked to multiple techs and different Acura's and they all have said that the case is JUST a case that holds the transmission together, it has nothing to do with the internals. The internals have been swapped with the new 2009 updates w/e that is. In any case it took a while before I got any facts to the questions that I have asked, I have already purchased the vehicle based on the poll I made and so far everything is great.
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