Are pads without shims ok?
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Are pads without shims ok?
I replaced my rotors/pads last night, and my dumb ass forgot to put the shims on the pads. It is not making any noise and stopping perfectly. Do I need to install the shims or is it ok to leave them off?
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If you installed Hawk pads they have shim built on to the new ones
If other brand and there was no plate on them- take it apart right away, get some caliper grease to fix that part of the job too, and install the shims.
The brakes need to fit really tight so they work instantly and dont bob around in the bracket
If other brand and there was no plate on them- take it apart right away, get some caliper grease to fix that part of the job too, and install the shims.
The brakes need to fit really tight so they work instantly and dont bob around in the bracket
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You can try your luck for a while, but good chance you will be hearing it soon. So, if you don't want to hassle now, then cool. But if you don't want noise later, then throw em in now or make time after you hear it!
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Most of what I have read says they are simply there for noise control. If it is not a safety issue I think I will leave it alone for now and hold onto them in case the noise becomes a problem.
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EBC pads also have shims built on...so unless you have those type of pads you'd better put them shims and some brake quiet on or prepare for a whole lotta squeakin
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Pads are FAR more than a noise reduction device
They keep the pads very close to the rotors- which gives you
a more solid and instant reaction to request for braking NOW!!!!
Some cars even have multiple shims to get the clearance just rght
Fix your brakes now or bring the car home 2 feet shorter!!!!
Pads are FAR more than a noise reduction device
They keep the pads very close to the rotors- which gives you
a more solid and instant reaction to request for braking NOW!!!!
Some cars even have multiple shims to get the clearance just rght
Fix your brakes now or bring the car home 2 feet shorter!!!!
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
SSM
Pads are FAR more than a noise reduction device
They keep the pads very close to the rotors- which gives you
a more solid and instant reaction to request for braking NOW!!!!
Some cars even have multiple shims to get the clearance just rght
Fix your brakes now or bring the car home 2 feet shorter!!!!
Pads are FAR more than a noise reduction device
They keep the pads very close to the rotors- which gives you
a more solid and instant reaction to request for braking NOW!!!!
Some cars even have multiple shims to get the clearance just rght
Fix your brakes now or bring the car home 2 feet shorter!!!!
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What pads and rotor combo are you running
Many hi performance pads come with their shims already installed
If there was anything but a flat surface on the pad back- that was the shim
Many hi performance pads come with their shims already installed
If there was anything but a flat surface on the pad back- that was the shim
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
What pads and rotor combo are you running
Many hi performance pads come with their shims already installed
If there was anything but a flat surface on the pad back- that was the shim
Many hi performance pads come with their shims already installed
If there was anything but a flat surface on the pad back- that was the shim
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You had to go and pick 2 items I have never seen a review on!!!
Make sure the pads are bedded in properly
here is a good method proven to work, along with explanation of process as well as the procedure itself
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedinstock.shtml
Make sure the pads are bedded in properly
here is a good method proven to work, along with explanation of process as well as the procedure itself
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedinstock.shtml
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Shims are for noise reduction purposes. If they don't make noise then, well, consider yourself lucky. ![Tongue](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
However, they have ZERO effect on braking performance/power. Many of the Euro cars don't have shimmed pads.
Any increased distance that would've otherwise been filled in by the shim would be compensated by the caliper piston.
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However, they have ZERO effect on braking performance/power. Many of the Euro cars don't have shimmed pads.
Any increased distance that would've otherwise been filled in by the shim would be compensated by the caliper piston.
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Starting point of caliper changes respective to the stopping point (caliper that much closer to rotor when it starts to push and therefore will only retract respective to brake system.)
If this were not the case
A. the brake lining would only be about 1mm thick
B. the service interval of brakes would be about = to oil change!
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Starting point of caliper changes respective to the stopping point (caliper that much closer to rotor when it starts to push and therefore will only retract respective to brake system design which is so close it looks like it touches.)
If this were not the case
A. the brake lining would only be about 1mm thick
B. the service interval of brakes would be about = to oil change interval!
But, I am sure that there is a benefit to the vibration dampening on your brake wear/longevity somehow.
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