if u spent 30k on a tl..y are u going to put 400$ headers on ur car...its not a civic
at least spend the extra money for high quality stuff..1100 for headers on a v6 and the downpipe isnt bad...especially if u bought comptech or hks exhaust that only cost around 600...in the end u spend around 1700 and u get headers, downpipe, and exhaust...that makes sense to me

so y buy the cheap stuff

 

better question...y buy the expensive stuff?

if i was going on that line of thought, i would have bought the bmw 330 for $40 grand. Or how bout the benz for about the same?

I bought the acura because it gave me the best value for the money. same with the obx. why should i pay almost triple for the same product? hell, why should i pay triple for a product that gives a few less hp (dyno proven)??

so what if the welds arent as pretty? as long as the quality is there (lifetime warranty, im satisfied), why wouldn't you buy obx?

p.s. i ordered mine today

 

LOL! Both you guyz are right.

To clear things up, I've talked to both Gregory over at SS AUTO CHROME and Steven at OBX Nippon Racing. Steven said the OBX headers are an exact copy of comptech's design. Same material...

The only thing is these headers were designed to fit an Accord V6 and will take a little modification and fabrication.

 

Wow.. that makes no sense what-so-ever. Just b/c you spend $30k on a car doesn't mean that you should overpay for the same product that produces the same or better results... that's just stupid.

I know I can afford the TL with no problems.. however, I don't really prefer to throw around ~$750 or so when I don't have to. I'd rather pay $340 then $1000+ for the same item.

BTW... only 2 people have had fitment problems with the CL/TL... everyone else was a direct fit.... so the odds are you won't even need to mod anything

 

Come on guys...let's the CompRipOffTech owners justify themselves to make them feel better...after all, they paid just a few more cents too much here..

 

if you look at the CT header item number you will notice that they are the same item for the accord v6, cl, and tl. so if it is an exact duplicate, there shouldnt be any modifications necessary for a proper fit. now the tl-s is a different story. i believe they have a different number. also for verification, the OBX are not completely stainless, coating just the outside. so the same material part of one of the replies seems off. if i am incorrect please correct me. that is also why they have a powered coating for the same price. coating is coating to them no extra cost involved.

 

you people r being cheap.....thats how u get a riced out car

 

Bro, you aren't making much sense. I hate to break it to you, but not everyone has a money tree growing in the back yard. Unfortunately, I have to make a house payment, car payment, insurance, pay my bills and put food in my stomach every month on a single income, so modding the car falls somewhere else down the priority list.

I bought the OBX headers and they are getting installed tomorrow. I'm very aware that there is some risk involved with this, but in my mind the price mitigated the risk enough for me to pull the trigger. Only time will tell how these things hold up, but to quote George Carlin: "Take a f*ckin' chance once in a while!"

If you want to flame people for taking this chance, then so be it. But I recommend you STFU until these headers start breaking. If that does happen (knock on wood), I'll be the first in line to eat crow. I'd rather have headers on my car tomorrow than wait a year to save up for Comptech's.

Peace.

 

Sorry to post whore...but this is a useless thread...we might as well be talking about how our car is such a better value than BMWs as what agean suggests. I dunno...me personally, I had the money...always wanted the Comptech headers plus I live in CA where I need the CARB, and I wanted to even up the brands (I know that might sound dumb to some people). But if I had to do it again, I would buy CTs. But I'm not gonna tell other people not to buy OBX because they're cheap or something....that's a decision for them to make.

 

Sounds to me you don't really know what "rice" means. But it's ok, sometimes we can be a little ignorant. BTW before we start any flames, no, I do not have either of the headers, nor do I plan to anytime soon. I guess I'm being cheap eh? Doh! But I bought a 30k car...what do I do now?

This thread should really be OT since it doesn't really have any technical benefits as far as information goes.

 

for me, what it comes down to is that I trust Comptech because they specialize in Honda vehicles.....I've never heard of OBX before all the fuss :o

 

numbaonexstunna

 

what does rice have to do with it? they're the same design headers.

rice = 20 "powered by ____" stickers on a car that makes 105hp
rice = led exhaust tips (thanks APC for another snazzy product!)
rice = 19" chrome on a 86 tercel

headers do not equal rice in my book. if i was being cheap, i'd fabricate headers out of paper towel rolls and duct tape. =)

 

he's saying it's rice cuz you're buying a knock off. It's like buing a duplicated body kit. Some ppl take all their time to design it and somebody just comes along and copies it.

 

"this is a useless thread"

The wisest words in this whole thread. Let's get on with the important stuff. This whole OBX vs. Comptech thing is old. Buy what you want.

 

Yeah, everyone has their own budget and preferences.

 

People are going to buy what they choose to! I can't see why anyone would be hating over some headers. Its not like buying some product with a big red R on the side, where the name means more than the resulting gains. We're talking about a "tried and true", tested and confirmed product (OBX). It simply has a better value than CT. I understand CT's dilemma about the costs, but I think they also knew that had a corner on the market, so they've been overcharging people. So I'm glad OBX came along to make things better for the rest of us. Hopefully Prototype can get thier sh!t to gether too.

 

OK I tell you what. Since you're the one that is balling here I'll shell out the $340 and you pay the difference for my comptechs ok? If not STFU

Whether this mod is rice or not I dont care. It's all about spending wisely and smartly.

 

Right on man. With the economy the way it is right now, a lot of us are watching what we buy these days.

 

ok...you all will pay 350$ for headers on your v6....not that great 4-cylinder headers go for more than that.

if u have a budget like that you shouldnt be buying parts in the first place

and if this is a useless thread....whats the point in leaving a reply saying that...just dont read the thread

 

Since when does being smart about a purchase = rice? Hmm...let's see, with that logic, everyone who bought a TL over a BMW is rice?

If you want to pay that much more for the name, then go ahead. No wonder they say "a sucker is born every minute"...

 

I have news for you guys... OBX has been around longer then Comptech has (on the aftermarket scene in general). This is the first higher end model that they have made a mod for which is why they bought the Comptech design... b/c it's been successful.

That's right....OBX didn't rip-off Comptech. Comptech SOLD them the design. If it was ripped off this whole thing would be bogged in the courts and no one would even own OBX headers for the TL/CL... so the "rice" and "cheap" comments are irrelivant.

The decision is up to the buyer.... spend $1000+ or spend $340 (well, that's what I paid). Both have a lifetime warranty and both are made of the same material. As others said.. i have other financial obligations. That doesn't mean I don't want to mod my car too.... so when I choose a mod... I factor in everything.. including price.. and make a decision.

Oh and I agree... this thread should be closed... but I wanted to post before the lock

 

^ What he said ^

 

This comment was not a attack on anyone but rather to offer a point. I'm sorry if I made it sound rather harsh, but I didn't meant it to be taken as an insult or anything. I'm just saying as far as this argument goes, it's an arguement that will have no resolution and to argue this further is to go on and on on pages where each person is going to argue either for Comptechs or OBX. I most people already have their mind set on one or the other and unless by some miracle the OBX cracks or god fobid, blows up, there will be no swaying anyone. Take for example you, you've already decided that Comptechs are the only for you and therefore have closed off any possibility that OBX can co-exist in the market with Comptech. When they first came out, I admit I was a little bias also, but I realized that this can be a good thing in the long run. If other companies see that they can produce a profit in this CL/TL market, we can expect to see more stuff. I don't know about you, but it's irrating when you want to mod your car and be different but in the end, your just like someone else who did it before you. And if this was bad enough, I can only imagine when Prototype and Greddy release their headers...what will we see in the tread lines? "Comptech vs. OBX vs. Greddy vs. Prototype?"

 

As a guy in sales, i love people like numbaonestunna.


man, it's like i can sell him a bag of M&Ms for $2.00 instead of $0.50.


Profit margins in America is great!


Anyhow, i'm curious, i heard from the rumor mill that comptech is a middle company anyways. they outsource their manufacturing to someone else, then when they get it, they stick on their label and mark it up. is that true?

 

To an extent yes. The headers I believe are of their own design and manufacture. The cambers are made by ingalls, the brake lines by Goodridge, the brake pads by someone else, they even sell OZ rims at a markup, they sell WW kits, the superchargers are of their own design and manufacture.

 

Since when does being smart about a purchase = rice? Hmm...let's see, with that logic, everyone who bought a TL over a BMW is rice?

^ ^ ^ ^
that makes no sense. im saying parts you put on a car. if u buy obx u might as well put neons and a big ass aluminum wing or apc lights

man, it's like i can sell him a bag of M&Ms for $2.00 instead of $0.50.
^^
we're talking about 2 totally different companies. you must be the one who goes and buys everything kroger brand.

 

heyyyy... im getting neons!!! that mean my car is gonna be ricey? aww man. oh well... honestly i dont give a fu*k what 1 person or the other thinks... as logn as im happy with the results its alll good. also, stunna... ur full of sh*t. obx is the same exact thing... mauybe u havent read... they bought the design from comptech... be original... get what u like.... or u can have EVERY tl with comptech everything and the same mods for everything. i think ur just mad cuz u got screwed out of $700.

 

Actually, you make no sense. OBX is not a PART, but rather a BRAND. Since when has an ENTIRE brand been viewed as rice?! So if Comptech made neons, then would Comptech be rice as well? According to your logic, that would be the case.

Also, I'd hate to break it to you, but Kroger brand is the SAME EXACT thing from the name brands...Kroger doesn't produce their own products, just buys them from the name brand companies and puts their label on. I highly suggest to you that you take a marketing class or two...

 

wow you are so smart. that must be why all the big name companies are still in business

 

Actually, you're the reason why all the big name companies are still in business...some people are just brand loyalists. I highly recommend those marketing classes- it will explain to you why some people are willing to pay $5 for a bag of M&Ms while others will only pay $.50 for a bag of M&Ms.

 

the big name companies are still in business cuz they're making a fortune on markups from guys like you.

its marketing 101...sell at whatever price the market is willing to bear. as long as people like you are willing to pay $1000 or more for headers, comptech will not lower their prices.

im not hating on people who paid for the comptechs. they're an established brand, and they make a great product. I just don't understand your logic whatsoever.

ps...what the hell do headers have to do with wings and neons? you're just pullin stuff out of your ass now...

 

it makes no sense when you say 5$ for a bag of m&ms when you can get them for .50$. it would make sense if u said 1.00+$ for a bag of m&m's or .50$ for a bag that said peanuts with chocolate....who da hell would buy that?? youre saying that you are buying comptech headers for 300 instead of 1100 like others, but youre really buying some cheap lower level brand name

 

stunna... ur like a chick... u think ur always right.

 

Tou chez

That was a bad example but I used it because it was already used. Now for a good example. Prescription name brand drugs vs. generic drugs. Same thing, but the name brand cost more, and people actually pay for the name. It's similar to this header issue. Both drugs do the same job, but the name brand one might come in nicer packaging and the pills may look better. They both make you feel better. Same thing with the headers. The point is to vent the gases. That is what headers are for. Now some people prefer having nicer looking ones, which is fine, and will pay for that. Nothing wrong with that at all. Other's just prefer something that gets the job done and is affordable and doesn't look bad.

 

well then cut your springs to lower your car....buy a look-a-like factory spoiler, but look a like rims, obx headers, make your own intake, and buy some 25$ mufflers. then youre car will be the best cause you know your marketing

 

Marketing what?

 

"well then cut your springs to lower your car....buy a look-a-like factory spoiler, but look a like rims, obx headers, make your own intake, and buy some 25$ mufflers. then youre car will be the best cause you know your marketing"

cut my springs - nope, too dangerous
look a like spoiler - i actually don't like spoilers, so no thanks
look a like rims - nope, they tend to be of really bad quality. i dont want rims that get bent and cause and accident or something
make my own intake - lol, i actually just tried that. check out my post regarding the cai to short ram conversion. didn't work out to well. that wasnt a money issue though, that was an experiment.
$25 mufflers - never seen em that cheap, but i don't want the muffler noise on this car.
obx headers - worst comes to worst, they develop a crack or something, i get them replaced free. no safety issues, no real cosmetic issue (for me at least), hence, no reason not to go for the cheaper competitor.

seeing as how this thread is starting to repeat itself with every post, this will be my last post here. say what you will, at this point its starting to get very childish though. hey, you should be thanking me. by buying my riced out, cheap knock off headers, comptech will probably lower their prices at some point.

have fun making yourself feel special stunna

 

nahhhh... lets all just buy comptech springs (cuz if they are not comptech ur ride is gonna be ricey), buy a mugen wing (cuz if its not mugen... its ricey), why would u buy look alike if u already have them?, buy comptech headers (cuz if u spend less than $1100 on headers ur an idiot and rice is comin out of ur ass), lets all buy a comptech ice box (because injen is not brand name and aem is not good enough), the hell with it u spent $1100 on headers... why not $5 or $600 more for comptech exahust? then ur car will be JUST like stunnas and u'll be really cool... i promise. damn man... some people are just ignorant... but ur passed that.

 

Here's some reading that might help: http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=48221