kensr05

Don't know what's going on, Bought the TLS because of its performance and looks. I've got whipped by a BMW 328i, Volkswagon gti and an altima 3.5 really bad on the highway. I have plenty of racing expireince I use to race my 5.0 pony car(Mustang GT) with 475 horspower at Englishtown and never lost. My tl seems to be really slugish after 70 mph. Has 1900 miles on it I dont think it will get any better just slower, Thinking on Trading in for a volvo S60R. Really dissapointed. This car doesn't have to much consistancy and best to worst times are a big gap. :confused:

ferizzo

Something might be wrong. I've whooped on both those cars before but the gti can be modded pretty good. Shouldn't have gotten a TLS if you wanted to beat everything on the road. S60R, STi, Evo, SRT-4 would have been better choices except the interior on all would have been spartan...although the S60R looks nice inside.

kensr05

Not looking to beat everything on the road but To be competative by not losing the way that i did.Nissan wasn't to bad but the bimmer and espacially the gti left like i was standing still.

ferizzo

Like I said, something sounds wrong because you should be able to take both. As a matter of fact I would have been more concerned with the 3.5 Altima than the other two. Maybe the two cars weren't stock.

My friend has a stock 337 (gti) and I pulled on her bad from a highway roll. It also depends who gets the jump.

fsttyms1

agreed, you shoulda beat those cars, like ferizzo said, i woulda been more concerned with the altima. the TL comes alive at 70 not sluggish at.

bigman

maybe the imrc(actuator valve) for the second stage in the intake manifold is broken. My friends type s got beat by a civic siwhen his broke.

@cUr@-TL

hey man, get your car checked!!!

you should definitly beat a 3.5L Altima, and a GTI (watch out for the chipped rockets tho),and 328s (they are slow as ****)

there is something wrong with your car!!


@cUr@-TL

Ruski

I get beaten all the time. The worst was a beating by an old Toyota Paseo. I beat him off the traffic light and he was a mile back, then he came back when I was cruising at 80mph and walked away from me.

Also "paysant" Camrys at 80+mph give me a hard time.

With a TL-S, you have to be at 80mph in order to downshift to 3rd. Then you get some strong acceleration, but it doesn'a always last too long.

If you are driving faster than 80mph, it will not downshift to 3rd. You actually need to slow down first, downshift, and then try to regain the lost speed.

BlackShadow

Not to make excuses for the TL-S but you should've been able to beat all of them, unless they were all modded. If the 3.5 altima was a stick then you will probably lose (if he knows how to shift).

Have your car check out.

fsttyms1

there is something wrong with your car too? if you let off the gas shift it to 3rd at the same time it will go to 3rd and you can run that to around 105-110 then when you go to 4th you have vtec and power

Blakout_One

kensr05 you definitely need to get your car check I agree wit most of the guys are saying the Bimmer definitely should have smoked that car except if it was mod or ecu chip change and for the GTI I never sleep on them cars cause I use to own a Honda s2000 wit some mods and GTI wit MODS are seriously quick and plus Jet Chip, but for the 3.5 Altima they have a lot of power I think they pushing about 6.2 6.3 0-60 and top speed 145Mph they pretty even wit the TLS so Im not really suprised wit that one.

njtls

my tls feels slow as hell too...altho its my first car so i dont have anything to compare too...it just doesnt feel that fast..i guess i'll have to run it on a 1/4 mile

Natismati

learn how to drive is the only advicei could give you

TeknoKing

i agree with natismati, i smoked all those cars.. Altima is the only one worth the competition, but not after 3rd-4th gears.

It all depends what you are packing

NYDesi80

I might be wrong so dont flame.. just asking.. when looked at a graph.. our cars are strong from 0-60 but after about 70 we die.. cuz it takes forever to get up to like 120+ compared to the 6.2 seconds it takes to get to 60 from 0mph. Someone said that our car comes alive after 70mph.. but I always thought this is what distinguished the V6's from the V8's. Right or Wrong?

04AcuraTL6speed

It's called no high end torque

joseph_99tl

i drove a 3.5 altima.
i don't think a tl-s could be it.
it was fast.

maxx96

If all the cars mentioned are stock, the only one (if manual) that I'll be concern will be the Altima 3.5, the car is just faster by the numbers. The other ones don't really stand a chance.
Like the other guys said you have to check your car because at 70mph I know my car just takes off if I punch it.
Take it to get it check.

Mr Zipps

The big this is that you need to learn how to drive... When you doing 70 and just punch it you car will automatically drop into 4th... If you use sport shift you can ride 3rd to about 110... If you cut 3rd early around 100 it will take forever for you to get up to 110 or higher cause your in a low rpm range in 4th and it will feel like your not moving....

kensr05

Well I understand what everyone is saying but most people need to read what i said. I wasn't standing still we were on the highway and you guys are right below 70 I kept up to them with no problem. But trying to get the car go to 3rd at that speed takes practice.The guys in the other cars have cars that respond in all speeds its a Honda/Acura issue. All the technology in the world, can't make a tranny that can't down shift properlly. It's a good thin the 04's come standerd, but if heard there not as fast as our tls Really don't know but so ive heard!

fsttyms1

mine will go into 3rd by itself still at around 85 so if yours doesnt at 70 i would have that checked out

goldendragon576

you need to 1) get your car checked 2) learn to drive your car better, meaning, undertand the gear ratios 3) get a faster car 4) get some mods in!
My friend has a Jetta 1.8t chipped and I still beat him every time, just the other day Sef, myself, Raf (jetta 1.8t) and some black Mustang Cobra SVT raced down the parkway and Sef and I blew both cars away! I'm going to assume the SVT didn't know how to drive because he was pretty damn slow! Sef, back me up!
As for your list, a chipped GTI will most likely beat us and a BMW with mods most likely, but a Altima???? I raced on with mods and I still beat him by a few car lengths to 100.

MikeElmendorf

I would be more concerned with your transmission failing.

r10apple

WTF? You make little sense...

How can you know how to race, etc. and say the above? It's an automatic transmission issue...You will run into this in any automatic car when at speed and expecting a downshift. It's all in the computer programming. My mom's Benz will do the same thing unless you bump it over to the tiptronic...

Go practice and then try finding a GTI or 328. It's no contest from any speed...

kensr05

Maybe your right, i need some practice with my tl but your not right about all automatic transmisions being the same, do some research on trannys and then write back and tell me what you learned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some auto's are much more aggresive then others, some think before swicthing gears others just go! The tl transmision Doesn't do the car any justice. It's a fact the the tranny is not made for such an agresive car. The tl tranny doesn't even allow you to down shift to first unless you stop that's because it's not made to handle the tl's power.

Mr Zipps

It allows you to shift into 3rd at about 80 anything higher it wont.. But if you let off the gas for a sec or 2 and then shift into 3rd it will let you...

Also Acura has one of the fastest shifts in Sportshift comared to BMW and Inifinty... It doesnt compare to SMG in BMW but its quicker than the other competition..

Also if your worried about the transmission dont race and dont complain about losing either....

ferizzo

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread. First off the people saying the car will downshift into third at 80 or below are correct. You do not need to be in sportshift to downshift the car to third. The auto will do it if you are at (maybe a little above) or you can gateshift yourself to third.

Secondly the TLS is pretty strong upto about 100 (maybe 110), which is around the end of third gear. After 100mph or when the car shifts to 4th is when it dies for a little bit before it engages VTEC again. For example, a TLS can hit 0-100 in about 16 or so seconds while a GS4 can do it in about 15 or so. Going from 100-130 the GS4 will then pull hard on the TLS because of the V8 and its torque.

As most know the TLS is not slow at all but not that fast either. It should however be significantly faster than a stock 328 and gti and about equal, maybe a tad faster than a stock altima auto. On the highway the stick altima should be maybe a little faster but not significantly. This is all stock obviously. Not a gti can be modded to hell and back but even with just a chip it would be a little closer. A few other mods though and the TLS can say bye-bye.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

The gear ratios are explained in the owner's manual, along with what speed each gear will take you up to.

And if you're cruising and want to race using SportShift, just keep downshifting. If you're going to fast, the computer will blink the desired gear, and prevent the transmission from going into that gear. It's not like you'll blow the engine.

Also, I would recommend getting your car checked out. My car runs like a raped ape, and I love it. If you don't have that feeling, then something is wrong, probably your butterfly intake valve. It gets stuck, and it happens to quite a few cars. It causes a lot of power loss.

Also the problem could be that you're comparing it to your 5.0, and are expecting too much.

I came from a Tahoe, Intrepid, then an Eclipse GT. My car feels pretty darn fast enough to me, and slow enough to keep me out of trouble.

GoldieAlek

turn off ....that traction control thing...(AST or something like that …I forgot what it was) and drop gears with +/- you should be fine. but def turn off that traction ...so you would see that yellow triangle light up!

ferizzo

VSA doesn't do jack on the highway. It would only hinder you from a launch when you are spinning the tires, at which point it will cut power down until the car has traction.

digitalbow

I like the TL. It looks cool, and from what I hear - it's supposed to have great performance. Now, I have a 3.5 Altima - it's stock auto. I'd expect the TL to beat it to 60 by two car lengths.

Type S Lady

Get some mods!

stiletto

This is a joke, right?!?!?

BIG_KOUT

so when VSA is off you see the yellow light in teh dash? or is the VSA button in the glove compartment?

DrivingTLNaked

I don't understand why someone would keep a car stock. Get more mods!!

V6 get a lot of power compared to 4 cylinders. Most 6cyl dynos show double the increase in HP compared to N/A 4cyl motors

I/H/E and you should be around ~300bhp.

fsttyms1

and you brought back a almost a 3 year old rant thread for what reason?