OK, you guys can flame me, but I would assume that most of you know I don't talk out my butt, but I have to post something from an "unnamed source". I do not want to ruin a new relationship I have stumbled upon.

At a recent get together, I found myself at a gathering of Honda employees!!! These guys are stone-solid verified technical-type sources.

What I found out is that while the Accord will get the 6 Speed, the '04 TL-S will not. I repeatedly asked are you sure? I told them that would be a mistake. The answer was NO. An emphatic NO.

Also, what I heard about the early TL-S tranny would make your hair stand on end!!! :wow:

:-jon


OK - Let the flames begin.

 

What about the tranny will make my hair stand on end?

 

Are you suggesting that the newer TL-S tranny's don't exhibit the same problems as the first ones? For example, the 2003 TL-S's shouldn't have the same rate of failure that the 2002 TL-S's had?

 

:flamer: OBLIO98

 

You just scared the crap out of this newbie.

 

What the deal Oblio, share the tranny info!

 

You don't know how many people I have talk to about this. From managers, to mechanics, to service reps, to directors, to sales people.

I have gotten mixed answers. I personally believe they will. We will not know until is actually out.

Go ask the same group you asked about a recall for 99's??? if they say yes your source is good, if no they don't know crap.

:flamer: OBLIO98 :flamer: OBLIO98 :flamer: OBLIO98

 

No flames here...that's just for newbies to feel like they're cool...

Would sure love to hear about that early TL-S tranny...just living with it made my hair stand on end...I can't help but notice from your statment that there is an implication that there has been a resolution...

 

If I am correct, the only Accord with a 6 speed is going to be the coupe, no sedan......they leave us sedan owners in the dark....bastards

 

from a business point of view, i think we can understand why honda is not putting manual in these cars because, honestly, how many people will buy these stick shift family sedans? us, maybe, and the magazine editors... but a lot of people buy the accord or the TL for its easy-to-drive nature, and i don't think the majority people would go for the manual version

 

Good point.

 

well if so then at least i wouldnt have regretted not waitin til 04!

 

What did you hear???????????

 

You are right. STi. It would still be nice for a limited production of vehicles to come with a stick in the TL type S, though. It could be considerably smaller than the production number for the coupe. I guess it comes down to dollars and cents in the end...

 

Ok Jon, give us the skinny on the tranny. I don't want to have to hurt you!

 

Then why would they buy the Type S? Why not just get the regular TL? They should make the Type-S stick and the reular TL should stay auto. This way the "enthusists" will get their performance and the "family people" will get their autos.
BTW - My friend's mom said she wishes it were stick, she would have gotten it (some people just love driving sstick and don't mind it) Not flaming, just venting on why I think they should do it

 

WHAT.......ABOUT.......THE.......TRANNY........?

 

would the manual tranny make the car any cheaper? Maybe that would be a perk to make some of the TL in stick....just a thought

 

The Type-S stick-shift is already here : the CL-S. The "enthusists", who want stick and performance, should go for a sportier car : the 2-door sport car with stick-shift 260hp - CL-S. I don't see the reason a "enthusist" would settle for a 4-door TL-S "family" sedan. Whereas the "family people" can enjoy performance with 4-door family car with auto-shift 260hp - TL-S.

 

Oblio,

I agree with you, I do not think acura will make a manual tls.

The tls after all is not a sports sedan but is a family car.

Great for driving the kids to soccer practice on sundays and so forth.

 

It's also good for edging out G35's at the race track.

http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=42845

 

:wow: So are you going to give us the info on the tranny?

 

Putting a manual in the tl, even the TypeS doesn't make much sense. However, having the manual in the Cl-S does. I read lots of articles saying how Cl-S and regular CL sales are not doing so hot, the market for large coupe not so great. I"m hoping for an accord coupe type-R, oh man, so sweet. Plus on a side note, how come european accord's look so much more badass. It sux!!!.

 

Lets hear the tranny info!!!

 

PCM

 

You see the title of this thread, just in case you can't read. We are talking about the tl-s and the availibility of a 6 speed manual.

What does a cl-s with modified intake edging out a bone stock G35 with auto tranny have to do with this topic. Handly anything to jump up and down

Oh yeah just incase you didn't know. you should compare apples with apples, not stock 4 sedans with auto to modified coupes with manual trans.

If you really want to see something funny look at the cls vs the G35 coupe in a few months. Now that is a joke.

 

The G35 coupe is not out yet so it isn't possible to compare. It's like saying that the G35 will have no chance against the 2004 TLS.

 

It is obvioyus that SOME G35 people come here because they feel insecure about their rides. Bottom line is if you have nothing to contribute but bashing, you are insecure and experiencing what we call TLS envy.

 

What does "PCM" mean? Come on man - give up the goods.

 

Powertrain Control Module

I made this clear in another post!

:-jon

 

I am convinced that if Infiniti comes out with the G35 manual, Acura will follow one up with a manual in the TLS.

 

Ok- i cannot find the other post regarding the PCM - can you give me a link to it, or simply tell me what it does and what seems to be the problem with it?

Thanks.

 

Jon - found the other thread.