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Old 02-24-2005, 06:41 PM
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Pulley= estimated cost + installation/ hp gains...advantages? disadvantages?
Intake= same shit

im also interested in what i should do for my first performance mod
first mod...HEADERS!!! 100%, then for free, remove your intake resonator and get a drop in K&N filter. Great setup, then when you get bored, get a new CAI or the crank pulley.
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deffinately go with the pulley, thats my next mod for sure
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so let me get this straight, there are 2 crank pulleys. one that is standard size & the other is undersize. i take it the undersize one gives you a little extra hp, but with you boys with the big ass power sucking amps it is not good because the alternator is not putting out the amount of juice as the standard pulley. i'm happy with my stock radio system, so would i be ok going with the undersize pulley. I'm a power monger! Also if i get the undersize pulley, will i have any problems getting replacement belts.
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ps, why the hell cant i find excelerate. did a member search, no such animal?
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Originally Posted by seattle dale
Also if i get the undersize pulley, will i have any problems getting replacement belts.
No, they are standard Gates belts.
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Originally Posted by seattle dale
so let me get this straight, there are 2 crank pulleys. one that is standard size & the other is undersize. i take it the undersize one gives you a little extra hp, but with you boys with the big ass power sucking amps it is not good because the alternator is not putting out the amount of juice as the standard pulley. i'm happy with my stock radio system, so would i be ok going with the undersize pulley. I'm a power monger! Also if i get the undersize pulley, will i have any problems getting replacement belts.
you get 85% of the increased power from the lighter pulley then the other 15% is from the underdrive. So getting the stock sized pulley isnt a big loss vs. the underdrive. Excelerate should be on here still? Also, I cant believe you are happy with the stock Blows system!!! lol, it wasnt much better than the stock stereo in my Chevy trunk.
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you get 85% of the increased power from the lighter pulley then the other 15% is from the underdrive. So getting the stock sized pulley isnt a big loss vs. the underdrive. Excelerate should be on here still? Also, I cant believe you are happy with the stock Blows system!!! lol, it wasnt much better than the stock stereo in my Chevy trunk.
mabe i haven't seen the other side. I hate rap, don't feel the need for that window rattlin Bass. Plus i like the stock look everything fits niceley. seems when you stick a aftermarket system in it sticks out like a sore dick. thats just me i guess. i am thinkin of someday updating my navi to play dvds, that would be the shit!!
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Originally Posted by seattle dale
mabe i haven't seen the other side. I hate rap, don't feel the need for that window rattlin Bass. Plus i like the stock look everything fits niceley. seems when you stick a aftermarket system in it sticks out like a sore dick. thats just me i guess. i am thinkin of someday updating my navi to play dvds, that would be the shit!!

I have to agree with Seattle Dale. I think the stock system is fine. I think this must be an age thing as I am close to his posted age.

Settle Dale, the UR crank pulley is much ligher and slightly smaller. In addition to the crank pulley you will need two new belts. Alt & AC belt Gates KO6044; P/S Gates KO40425. Use these two when doing crank only.

For the Comptech Icebox, I replaced the Comptech foam filter with a K&N filter.
No real gain, I just prefer K&N.

I am looking for my next mod and thinking about doing the Outlaw Thermoblock spacers.
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oh I agree that there isnt a need for a big ass stereo...even since I got mine in, I would be happy with less bass...but the stock system just didnt do it for me in overall sound. I mean the cheep ass paper speakers w/o any tweeter cant make quality sound - I love music, not just bass, that is why I have a nice expensive system - and it can rattle the windows if I want it too! the outlaw spacers do look like a good mod to me also!
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I have to agree with Seattle Dale. I think the stock system is fine. I think this must be an age thing as I am close to his posted age.

Settle Dale, the UR crank pulley is much ligher and slightly smaller. In addition to the crank pulley you will need two new belts. Alt & AC belt Gates KO6044; P/S Gates KO40425. Use these two when doing crank only.

For the Comptech Icebox, I replaced the Comptech foam filter with a K&N filter.
No real gain, I just prefer K&N.

I am looking for my next mod and thinking about doing the Outlaw Thermoblock spacers.
what are the thermalblock spacers all about, excuse my ignorance, never heard of that mod? I'm doing all performance mods until i run out of things to do. Wish i could afford that comptech supercharger. Thanks for the belt info!
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Here is a link to some information on the thermoblock spaces. In the thread there is also a link to Outlaw Engineering. http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...4&page=1&pp=25

I have the Mugen cooling mods also. Here is a thread with more detail on this mod.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...gen+thermostat

I also have the bored out throttle body from King Motor Sports. Only downside is you send them your throttle body so your car is down about a week until you get it back.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...+throttle+body

I would go the UR crank pulley route before considering any of the mods above. The supercharger or turbo would be nice, but that is getting into more money than I want to spend on modding.
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Originally Posted by dj5
Here is a link to some information on the thermoblock spaces. In the thread there is also a link to Outlaw Engineering. http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...4&page=1&pp=25

I have the Mugen cooling mods also. Here is a thread with more detail on this mod.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...gen+thermostat

I also have the bored out throttle body from King Motor Sports. Only downside is you send them your throttle body so your car is down about a week until you get it back.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...+throttle+body

I would go the UR crank pulley route before considering any of the mods above. The supercharger or turbo would be nice, but that is getting into more money than I want to spend on modding.
thanks for all the great info dj5. going to have to do some research.
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Go with the pulleys for sure. Roughly 10whp across the powerband.

Only down side to the pulleys is that the belts that are suggested by UR are squeaky.
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besides "excelerate" can't get him to respond. where can i get the best price on a ur crank pulley?
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Go with the pulleys for sure. Roughly 10whp across the powerband.

Only down side to the pulleys is that the belts that are suggested by UR are squeaky.
thats what they told you about your unichip.? Did you ever get that issue resolved. Mines been great.
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thats what they told you about your unichip.? Did you ever get that issue resolved. Mines been great.

Once I had it tuned it was fine. Although I didn't keep it long because I bought a supercharger.
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Once I had it tuned it was fine. Although I didn't keep it long because I bought a supercharger.
did you have anytrouble getting rid of your unichip? How ya like that supercharger. must be in the low 13's now. lucky bastard.
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the best price i can seem to find is $194 & change for the ur crank pulley. anyone know where i can get a better price?
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Originally Posted by seattle dale
did you have anytrouble getting rid of your unichip? How ya like that supercharger. must be in the low 13's now. lucky bastard.

Yes I am, and soon i'll be in the 12s.
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Originally Posted by seattle dale
the best price i can seem to find is $194 & change for the ur crank pulley. anyone know where i can get a better price?

Unless you can find them used on the forum that's about the best price i've seen for a new crank pulley. These pieces are high quality.
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that's odd, i checked the group buy forum and Excelerate is nto i ntehre anymore...
maybe he got banned?

i have his AIM sn tho- Excelerate04
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that's odd, i checked the group buy forum and Excelerate is nto i ntehre anymore...
maybe he got banned?

i have his AIM sn tho- Excelerate04
thanks for checking. i tried pm him with no responce. i guess i'll have to buy that one for $194.00. next does anyone know of a reputable shop in the seattle area that would change out the pulley @ a good price?
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just happened to go to the local nopi racing shop yesterday and inquired about the ur pulley they can get for $185 + shipping. And no the wife was not with me I snuck in behind her back again
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just happened to go to the local nopi racing shop yesterday and inquired about the ur pulley they can get for $185 + shipping. And no the wife was not with me I snuck in behind her back again
right on, right on. how are ya going to sneak the install? Does that place you bought the pulley have a web site? hey you forgot the "hehehehehe"
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They changed the vendor's fees and Excelerate no longer could afford to do business on Acurazine.
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They changed the vendor's fees and Excelerate no longer could afford to do business on Acurazine.
guess i'll just bite it & go for the $194.00. When you order the ur pulley do they also send you belts?
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No the belts are not included
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Originally Posted by dj5
I have to agree with Seattle Dale. I think the stock system is fine. I think this must be an age thing as I am close to his posted age.

Settle Dale, the UR crank pulley is much ligher and slightly smaller. In addition to the crank pulley you will need two new belts. Alt & AC belt Gates KO6044; P/S Gates KO40425. Use these two when doing crank only.

For the Comptech Icebox, I replaced the Comptech foam filter with a K&N filter.
No real gain, I just prefer K&N.

I am looking for my next mod and thinking about doing the Outlaw Thermoblock spacers.
are we missing a number on the 1st part#? found a place to buy the belts, but my search concludes i'm missing a # for "k06044"?
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Originally Posted by seattle dale
right on, right on. how are ya going to sneak the install? Does that place you bought the pulley have a web site? hey you forgot the "hehehehehe"
I did not buy them yet. i may in a week or two. I will sneak the install in, while she's at work during the day. hehehehe....

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you said pulley was $185.00, looked @ your site there all $195.00. so you must work nights huh? so are you going change out that pulley by yourself or take it to a shop?
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yeah i noticed that as well on the website. the guy did sai "$185 + shipping" so maybe with shipping it will bring it up to $195 (kinda confusing). I am a engineer, and when I am not travelling for work i work from home which is when I get most of my car stuff done. I am gonna have this done professionally
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yeah i noticed that as well on the website. the guy did sai "$185 + shipping" so maybe with shipping it will bring it up to $195 (kinda confusing). I am a engineer, and when I am not travelling for work i work from home which is when I get most of my car stuff done. I am gonna have this done professionally
that works out sweet. when the wifes away we all play! i was kinda board today & was thinkin of mabe getting under my TLS & see by chance i could break that crank pulley nut loose. if i could do that i could do this mod myself. @ my work i have access to all sorts of pullers. I'm a machinest by trade.
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i would be a little nervous doing this job myself only because i love my engine. i'm sure it's a easy job with the right tools. do you know what the labot cost and time is?
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i would be a little nervous doing this job myself only because i love my engine. i'm sure it's a easy job with the right tools. do you know what the labot cost and time is?
i've seen guys on the site have spent anywhere from $70.00 to $120.oo for the change out.
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hmmm, i may have to re-think this. maybe i can find a slightly used pulley
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Originally Posted by muffaburn
hmmm, i may have to re-think this. maybe i can find a slightly used pulley
i think you miss understood me, those figures above was the labor to change out the pulleys. on top of the price you pay for your pulley.
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No, i understood you. I am just trying to think of how to "sneak" that much money out of the bank account, total would be around $300 (part and install)
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No, i understood you. I am just trying to think of how to "sneak" that much money out of the bank account, total would be around $300 (part and install)
a real sneaky bastard could figure out how to get it done. come on show us some of your skills!!!
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are we missing a number on the 1st part#? found a place to buy the belts, but my search concludes i'm missing a # for "k06044"?
Sorry I dropped a number the correct number is Alt & AC belt Gates KO60441.

There was a guy on the CL forum "DeansblackCLS" who usually gave pretty good deals on the pullies, you may want to drop him a note.
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Originally Posted by seattle dale
a real sneaky bastard could figure out how to get it done. come on show us some of your skills!!!
that's why all of my mods were second hand (and i mean everything, except rotors)


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