Mr Hyde

CCFL's are made for computers, so is anything else needed for them to run in our 12volt cars?

Bxscig

I would assume cut the ground and the +12V cable, which ever they are and then hook them up like regular neons.

Mr Hyde

110V computer's use CCFL's with 12V cables?

Bxscig

It is the same cable like for the hard drives and cd-roms....i thought.

Mr Hyde

Are those 12V, I seriously dont know.

Bxscig

I think if you check the labels on a HD or a cdrom it should show you which pins are which.

Yellow = +12V DC
Black = Ground
Black = Ground
Red = +5V DC

I think you would just connect a ground and the yellow wire to the car, I am not sure... Does anyone know?

Bxscig

Do you know what each of the 4 pin does?
Pin 4 = +12V
Pin 3 = Ground
Pin 2 = ??
Pin 1 = ??

What actually makes it fade?

Bxscig

Can anyone verify this diagram for me?

When the doors open it will activate the relays connecting 30 and 87 on the relays so that it will be connected to the dome harness (positive and negative sides) which should also allow it to fade since it connects the +/- of the neons to the dome harness.

When the doors close the relay is not active and 30 and 87A on the relays so that it will be is connected to the ground (car metal) and +12V from the fuse panel via a switch which allows it to turn on and off as you wish as long as the key is in.

Bxscig

Here is the diagram.

Mr Zipps

I think you only need 1 spdt relay. Your making it more complicated than it should be....

Im going to connect mine this weekend with a relay. I will let eveyone know how it worked out and then I will make a diagram for everyone....

04AcuraTL6speed

CCFL invertors are made for a 12 Volt input, the connector is designed for a computer power supply. You can cut off the computer connector and attach the yellow wire (yellow = 12V for computers) to a car 12 volt source, and the black to ground.

you NEED an invertor to run the CCFL, you can't just connect power straight to the Lamps. The kits found online do come with the invertor.

04AcuraTL6speed

CORRECTION

WHITE/BLUE pin3 is 12 volt. BLACK/SILVER pin 2 is varible ground.

Pin2 will change in resistance to turn the lights on and to dim the lights with the dome light. The lights will turn on when the door is open, or when you switch the dome light to on. And the lights will dim with the dome light

04AcuraTL6speed

IF you follow the diagram it will emulate whatever the dome light does. The addition of the swtich will let you turn on the light manually when they doors are closed.

04AcuraTL6speed

You can find cheap CCFL kits here

http://www.case-mod.com/store/produc...roducts_id=620

It comes with an inverter and 2 CCFL...the price is very good.

Bxscig

If you use one relay I assume you plan to connect pins 85 and 86 to the variable ground and positive wires of the dome harness... which to my understanding acts like a switch to select between 87 and 87A. It will not control the current or voltage between the input and output 30 and 87. That is why I thought you needed two.

I could be wrong, anyone know?

04AcuraTL6speed

Why are u using a relay and not a switch?

rmarin2

The Cold Cathode Rod that I bought from Target is a CCFL if I'm not mistaken. It has the molex connector and a 12V cig lighter plug all wired together, with the power inverter. I bought those $18/each.

jwt27106

tlfan.... I'd like to install them but unfortuanetly most things I start like this end up well lets just say not very well... if you could email me the instructions at jdubs1888@aol.com it would be great... hmmm maybe ill be able to who knows....thanks bye the way it looks AWESOME... too bad its illegal for exterior blue neons in most state unless your an armed vehicle... haha thanks

04AcuraTL6speed

jwt27106, you got mail

I just got a failure to deliever e-mail. Is that the right e-mail address you gave me?

Dolent

04AcuraTL6speed

Thanks for the instructions via email. I went out to Wally World yesterday after work and picked up a couple of those neons. They are 2 color, blue/purple. You can set them to hold either color or do the whole sound pulse thing via the transformer control box. Everything came together easily only problem was that I cut the heck out of my finger with the crappy plastic packaging that the neons came in. You were right about the passenger side being a little more difficult to hide, I got it in there about 3/4 way back and rigged some zip ties together to hold it in. The wiring was simple, no problems although I did reverse the pos/neg the first time (I went with black/stripe being pos. and solid black being neg. *WRONG*) but I quickly changed them around and vwala, let there be blue neon lights shining on the floorboards. My folks came to my house last night for dinner and I showed them the mod, even they being senior citizens appreciated the work!

Thanks again, you took the headaches away from having to poke around with my multimeter!

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1999 Ac 3.2TL NO NAVI
Blue/Parchment
20% Mirror all around
Factory everything else for now
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Dolent

duplicate post sorry!

69tl

can you send me the intruction to this email inspiregrl@aol.com thanx in advance,
btw, that email address below to my wife just incase any of you guy are wondering

04AcuraTL6speed

Dolent, Glad to hear that it worked out for you. Hope your fingers heals quickly =)

Will send you a e-mail 69tl

IhuynIh

hey tl6speed, i followed the instructions you posted and the diagram using the ccfl's the only thing I havent' done is attached the switch to ground. As of now the lights only come on if i turn the switch on... do the lights only turn on with the door open and dimming if i ground the switch????

thanks in advance

Bxscig

I ordered the CCFLs they are on the way, any pics of how they come out?

For those that install lights for the rear as well.... where do you guys end up mounting it?? and how long are the neons u use for the rear.

IhuynIh

anyone on the forum put additional lights in the trunk... maybe the same ones as the footwell?? (have nothing in trunk but storage space)

04AcuraTL6speed

Yeah, i went ahead an put CCFL lamps in my Trunk when i replaced the neon footweel lighting. I'll post some picks later

04AcuraTL6speed

Hey, for those ppl who bought the CCFL kits that come with the switch. The switch that comes with the kit is not the same switch that is refered to in the diagram. I've following diagram is basically the old one, but moded to be specficially for the CCFL kits.

Please make sure that the WHITE/BLUE (Pin3) wire is 12V and the BLACK/SILVER (Pin2) wire is GROUND. Reversing these wires may damage the invertors.



Feel free to contact me if you have any problems. minh7144@yahoo.com

Intructions
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4cb742d0...NfxCABioomBYkO

IhuynIh

could you also send me the instructions to the trunk lighting?? IhuynIh@hotmail.com


thank you

jatses

I want to install a blue neon for both the driver and the passenger under the dash as well as under the back seat for the other passengers and possibly under both the driver and passenger seats. I will later on add some for the cd player lighting and a few other dash lighting accesories. So what I want is to know how to tie all this in to where when the doors are open or whatever to make the door lights come on, ALL the neons inside are on and when they go off (door closes or whatever), I want them to fade like the dome light. Also, I want them all ran to a switch that I can turn on to have them on while driving. I might want the dash neons for the cd player to be on another switch or just be on with the parking lights. Yeah...I want them to be on with the parking lights. If I could I want the seat neons to be on with the parking lights as well and still be ran to an independent switch and do what I said earlier. If somebody could send me instructions on how to do this it would be much appreciated. Thanks All!


Jatses
jatses@email.com

04AcuraTL6speed

Pretty Busy, but i'll write up instructions when i get around to it. But basically, you are doing what you did with the footwell lighting. I tapped the 12V and Ground from the stock Trunck Bulb. Colors should be relatively the same (but not confirmed), black with silverstrips is ground and white with blue or read with black is 12V, so you just tap the invertor into that. Just use velcro or double sided tape to hold the invertor in place and use zip ties to hold the lamps through the holes (place your head in the trunk and you will see the holes).

Mr Hyde

Just completed this mod today after I busted one of my CCFC tubes last week, and I have to say it was a cheap mod that I really love.

To anyone who wants to do it, I HIGHLY recommend getting the White CCFC computer tubes like in the above link instead of the Blue Neons. They are much smaller, and I think the white light looks much classier, and isnt too brash; even with my car being AGP.

The switch that taps into the ground turns them AND the dome light on at the same time.

Here are the pics.









This is the switch, I dont use that power outlet at all, and if I need to use it, the switch just slides right out; it's not permanently mounted.



Thanks guys for all the helpful instructions.

Bxscig

I agree the CCFC tubes are a lot easier to hide and not to mention cheap.

seattle dale

man i think i'm getting old, neon lighting, somehow i dont see my self doing that to my 03-s. but more power to ya , what ever floats your boat. have to admit looks good! all my money will going into performance :-))

HeavenLy TL-S

damn mr. hyde.. that is a good place to put the switch. I never thought of that.

I have the underbody neon kit. Can I wire the footwell neons to 1 main switch that lights the exterior and interior? I want a switch for the footwell to turn it on when i park my car. I don't want it to fade out.

some help please? e-mail me directions at kimsw0121@hotmail.com thanks!

rmarin2

Once again Sandeep you have outdone yourself. You definitely have to show me how you wired up the switch.

Good Job, looks great!!

-Rich

Bxscig

I had mounted my switch next to the dimmer switch for the instrument panel. There seems to be room for a button there, not sure what it is used for though.

rmarin2, have you gotten the dimmer switch to work out yet?

SatinSilverTypS

iTrader: (1)

when i bought my car the previous owner had mounted two toggles under the kick panel, one for the neons and one for a remote line for an extra amp for a sub. i had my neons on the other night driving some people around and i have to say i like the "ooh" and "aah" factor when people see it. good work on the switch, thats a good place for it. i use my lighter outlet for my cell phone holder though so it wouldnt work too well for me. nice job though man

SSTS

HeavenLy TL-S

That's where I put mine. It seemed like a great spot.

Can anyone answer my question above?

Mr Hyde

There arent any power mods that you can get for under $15. But regardless, I already have the Comptech list, excluding the Supercharger.

The switch just sildes right out, so if I need to use that power port, I can. I usually use the one in the center console for my cell phone, and since the V1 is hardwired, I never use this one.