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03-23-2001, 02:30 PM

Road Rage

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My 290 HP TL-S

If I read the Comptech dyno sheets for the CL-S, the HP rating for a TL-S with header/exhaust should be 290 HP.

That's taking the 290 HP figure and deducting 20% for drivetrain losses, giving the 232 peak on the dyno sheets.

BTW, according to the 2002 TL Brochure, Acura changed the brake pads composition and the alignment of the brake pedal to give better feel. I thought it felt better during my test drive.

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03-23-2001, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Road Rage:
If I read the Comptech dyno sheets for the CL-S, the HP rating for a TL-S with header/exhaust should be 290 HP.

That's taking the 290 HP figure and deducting 20% for drivetrain losses, giving the 232 peak on the dyno sheets.

BTW, according to the 2002 TL Brochure, Acura changed the brake pads composition and the alignment of the brake pedal to give better feel. I thought it felt better during my test drive.

i thought it was actually a 25% loss? oh well... i also noticed today while driving that they moved the windwasher nozzles off the hood and right next to the windshield wipers.. it actually gives the hood a nicer look... and i dunno if its just me, but i could swear there is more room where the windshield meets the dash, then in the TL... seems more of a cab forward design... is it just me?

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03-23-2001, 03:05 PM

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Yes, it is just you - I suggest a complete neurologival work up immediately. You may be suffering from acute TLS-neuro-perceptidevius.

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03-23-2001, 08:25 PM

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Yes, it is just you - I suggest a complete neurologival work up immediately. You may be suffering from acute TLS-neuro-perceptidevius.

i think ur right... the dealer warned me about this, but i just wouldnt listen... hope it never goes away (that feeling that the car is bigger, faster and better

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03-24-2001, 09:36 PM

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FYI, the new 2002 TL's are some 1 inch short and .3 inch wider or something like that...

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03-25-2001, 12:54 PM

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FYI, the new 2002 TL's are some 1 inch short and .3 inch wider or something like that...

AHA! i guess u can't tell that by looking at it though can u

... what i kinda dont like is that on the type S the turning radius is greater... i wonder if it has to do with the rims or the suspension...

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03-25-2001, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Road Rage:
If I read the Comptech dyno sheets for the CL-S, the HP rating for a TL-S with header/exhaust should be 290 HP.

i just looked over their cl-s dyno, and where do they say that it uses exhaust? to me it looks like they are just saying headers... only the 99 TL dyno has exhaust added in... and the cl-s dyno peak is 32hp to the wheels, which should put your tl over 300hp at the crank

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03-25-2001, 01:27 PM

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I don't see how you come up with that - one needs to figure it at the HP peak of the total system and then factor in the drivetrain loss. The peak is 232, add 58, and you get 290.

And sinned - what do slight changes in dimensions have to do with this post regarding power? Extremely valuable info though.

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03-25-2001, 03:53 PM

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And sinned - what do slight changes in dimensions have to do with this post regarding power? Extremely valuable info though.

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I don't see how you come up with that - one needs to figure it at the HP peak of the total system and then factor in the drivetrain loss. The peak is 232, add 58, and you get 290.

ok... we're talking about HP at the crank being listed as 260 for tl-s right? and according to comptech the headers give 32 at the wheels which amounts to roughly 40hp at the crank (according to 20% loss), therefor, assuming that both peak numbers amount for stock tls 260, and comptech 40, occur at the same place around 6600rpm, we get a total of 260+40=300hp at the crank which would be roughly equal to 240hp at the wheels, n'est pas?

but, where did u come up with 58? i'm not sure what that number is...

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