The great suuposed hoped for test that was to reveal a time of 5.9 0-60 for the g35 didnt materialize. It was 6.2 like ours. What do you all think of that? So now Im waiting to see what acura has up its sleeve for 04. Anyways to each his own, theres always gonna be a following for something new that comes out but at least now we know that the supposedly significant power combined with torque factor of the g is a minimal advantage at most when it comes to putting it down on the ground. Plus I read the post this morning of the guy who got chance to get an edge with his type -s over the g. Way to make us look good!!!

 

Very well said-

I dont believe Infiniti builds a car that qualifies with Acura- Our car is so much more solid. I was contemplating the I35 and it was soo cheap . The door jams had cheap moldings and it appeared the outside was OK but the inside was a Maxima if that.

It was fun staying ahead of the MFR rep in the G35-

The Type S Rocks --------------------------------------------



Objects in mirror are closer than they appear!!!!!

:wow:

 

Infiniti has always been known for not being able to put the power to the ground. On paper, infiniti's, especially the new ones, seem awesome, but unfortunately they can't make the power happen in reality..The Q45 has 340hp!!! and it is slower in all performance respects to the LS430...And now the G35 which on paper should definitely beat a TLS with more torque and rear wheel drive, but it's no faster in a straight line and only .2g better on the skid pad..Sorry nissan, but honda really knows how to make the most out of their engines and chassis..Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the G35 is a 3.5 liter, versus our 3.2, and still no more power was found..Just imagine if the TL was a 3.5, it would kill the G35 anyday.

 

Maybe but check out what Motorweek said about the G35 recently...remember they don't have the 6 speed yet but will receive theirs before the TL-S gets a 6 speed. Anyway, the advantage seems to be in stopping distance even without the goodies (i.e. VSD)

http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/u...;f=25;t=000611

 

Don't worry... they'll invent something else in the coming days to make the G35 look superior. So far we've got the 5.9 second 0-60 run and the fact that the TL-S Acura uses for a press car was equipped with a Comptech header

I thought we were above simply making things up.

 

2003 G35
MotorWeek 6.2
MotorTrend 6.2
C&Driver 6.2
R&Track 6.1

2002 TL-S
MotorWeek 6.6
MotorTrend 6.3 Average 6.52 secs!
C&Driver 6.2
R&Track 7.0 (damn slow)

Let me clear some things up for all you, misreading, unknowing people. The Q45 lost to the LS430 in 0-60 and 1/4mile in one magazine. ONE! All others have the Q45 faster. The TL-S has hit 6.2secs ONE! time. And if you want to base everything off a ONE TIME test, Altima 0-60 5.9secs, C&D got the Q45 to do it in 6.0secs and one magazine even got it do it in 5.8secs.

And yes the G35's rear end isn't good looking, but that is what the TL-S owners will see all day.

 

Is this before or after they realize their interior is on par with the nicest civic I have ever seen. Come on Nissan/Infiniti can't we do a little better then that plastic **** you've been giving us.:wow:

 

I'll agree we do better then Nissan, but we know Honda doesn't get the most out of their engines...i mean come on...

 

I LOVE the Comptech header issue!

Can anyone of you *******S saying this provide the documentaion to back up your BULL****? If not, the STFU and go away!

Soem of you people are ALWAYS looking for excuses...

 

Very well said.

Wow so the tls best time on one magazine is as fast as the slowest time of the G35. whoop dee doo.

The best time of the G35 6.1 will murder the tl-s worse time of 7.0

The fact is the tl-s will only run with the G35 on its best day and on the G35's worse day.

So i don't know why everyone is jumping up and down about.

 

Infinitis? Cheap???

What are you talking about??

You think Acura somehow is builds the TL-S better than the G35 .. oh wait... but Acura's tranny's fall apart and there are rattles and creaks from day 1 .. but wait.. Infiniti's are "cheaper" than Acuras.

A few of you are waaaay to into the TL-S, you need to test drive some other cars are get a clue.. I don't want to come off like "father knows best" or anything, but seriously, the TL-S is a decent value for what you get, but seriously, it's not nearly as fast as SOME of you make it out to be.

The G35 is REAR WHEEL DRIVE w/ a five speed auto and a nearly 50/50 weight ratio ... Unless you're just totally against the looks of the G35, it's the superior car when you are going to rate it against the TL-S on in the performance category. And w/ the sticker price on it, it's also the better value. That's strictly my opinion, however.

Peace

 

You... I HAD to respond to your quote.. you are just swimmin in your own automotive superiority aren't you??!!

"Forgot to mention that the G35 is a 3.5liter and the TL-S is a 3.2 and still no more power was found..." ...

Why don't you substantiate your statement w/ some sort of fact, or piece of information what would support your thinking.

You DO realize that people who buy the Q45 and LS430 are usually not looking to take their new rides to the track to run the 1/4 against other people that brought their S-classes and their Cadillacs as well...? You do realize why a Mustang w/ 300hp can "beat" a GMC suv w/ the same amt of hp, right? It doesn't have to do w/ the weight of the car does it?? nah

btw, your commute to work must be down the block from your residence b/c most of the world takes left and right turns, and on occasion we like to rip it up and down some twisties and some slaloms ... cuz that's where a car like the G35 can really shine. But I respect the fact that this doesn't apply to you.

Peace

 

LOL...Where you been dude?

 

Originally posted by FLAcuraTLS
forgot to mention that the G35 is a 3.5 liter, versus our 3.2, and still no more power was found

Dude what you smoking, do you know what TORQUE is, the G35 produces alot more of it than the tls.


Just imagine if the TL was a 3.5, it would kill the G35 anyday.

Don't imagine things, the tls IS 3.2 and the G35 is 3.5. Case closed Based on your rationality if the tl was 8.0, then it would kill the porshe and corvette wouldn't it.

Bigger engine doesn't always means more power or faster. ACURA RL has a 3.5 liter engine and only produces 225 horse power and 231 Torgue. Guess what the G35 will slay the 3.5 liter RL also.

 

I agree torgue has more to do with acceleration than Horsepower and the g has more of it.

 

Can I get a show of hands of all the people that are or will race their 4 door luxury sedan? Espically againts other 4 door sedans.

What are you'll thinking?

"Race, fast, beat-um, 260bhp, quicker, faster, better, I won, I lost, I'll get them next time, 4 doors, get wife, I need more mods."

 

School some of these fools.

Fact of the matter is, even if the g35 was SLOWER, it is RWD and the manual will be here next year.....that is a SPORTS SEDAN, not a sporty car.

I do think the TLs looks better though, inside and out.

 

There comming out with a cope version thats supposed to have 280hp! i still think its ugly

 

Hey Bud!

Long time no quote,

I've been busy w/ school lately .. been kinda outta the "Acura" forum thing for a while, .. it's funny to come back from time to time to see some of the brilliant posts! How ya been man, how's the 540's treatin' ya? I read something about a software issue w/ the tranny? Hey, are you gunna Dinan-ize that thing soon or what?!

Pete

 

You make excellent points and that statement is coming from a TLS owner. I think it's important to mention that whenever a car comes out, no matter how superior it is to other cars in it's category, eventually something new is going to come out and replace it as king of the hill. That's just the way technology is. I fully expect the next remodeled TL to out perform the G35. If this is the case that would mean the G35 performance edge you talked about will only last 1 - 1 1/2 years and the TL's edge will last 3.5 - 4 years .(If in fact the new TL comes out next year and the new car cycle is 5 years.) So the bottom line is, you have an aging TL going up against the newer technology of the G35. We should fully expect the G35 to have superior technology. Does that make me feel like I made a bad purchase? Not at all. Fortunately, technology doesn't change as fast with cars like it does with computers so the difference is not that great. For those Infinity G35 owners that care about slight performance advantages all I can say is to enjoy it while it last. To me, it's not an issue.

 

yo,..F this G35 v. Tl-S s--- it's ridiculous. I love my TL-S.. even after 12 thousand or so miles... had it a year... almost.. and still seems brand new to me.

I could care less about 0-60 times..or the fact that a G35 is a little bit faster. Some people like the G35 AND it's backend, while others don't. Whatever whatever..right?

no use in arguing.

 

Slightly off the subject. The G35 mirrors aren't attached to the memory
settings... Infiniti's usually have all the options, what were
they thinking? Kinda pointless having memory seating if you still have
to adjust all your mirrors.

Anyhow... i thought that was kinda strange.

There will be a comparison soon... just wait.

 

Many cars are like that if you haven't noticed. My brother has a Lexus RX300 and its the same situation, so its not an infiniti thing.
Lets put it this way haveing memory seats is better than having none.

I Once read something really funny on clublexus.com. A owner of an is300 was slamming infiniti for cost cutting on the G35 by saying that the G35 is cheap because it has doesn't have gas struts on the front hood. Needless to say he was the laughing stock of the thread when other lexus is300 owners informed him that the is300 doesn't have gas struts for the front hood also.

So before you go ahead and slam a car, think of what you are saying and if it makes anysense before you say it.

Please don't nit-pic on the G35 on minor details, no car will EVER be perfect for everyone.

 

TLS will outlast G35, G35 just came out in 2002 and TLS came out 2001 year. and G35 has around 260 hp, following the TLS. What if TLS comes with 300 hp? then G35 will try to out perform 300 hp on their cars. The fact is G35 is just trying to copy TLS. But still TLS is much better looking and much consumer impact to the owners. Did G35 done that? no WaY!!!!!
Lexus IS300 is different story, they are smaller than ours and slower. and one of the CIVIC Looking and 96 Accord.

 

Yes, the G35 copied the TLS in every way. RWD with a near 50/50 weight distribution. Wait! The BMW also copied the TLS too.

I suppose you think the TLS copied the mustang because the mustang had 260 hp before the TLS. BTW, the G35 and TLS are not real competitors. The TLS mostly competes with the ES300, I35, and similar FWD cars. The G35 competes with the RWD sport sedans.

 

The G35 is copying the tls.

I didn't know that the tls has a Front-Midship engine displacement, .26 coeficient of drag, 260 lbTorque, rear underbody air diffuser and reclining rear seats.

If you wanna slam the G35, just use subjective opinion such as it being ugly just like every body else here who can't dig up any dirt.

Fact is their are to many ignorant little kids in this boards ranting and screaming fake facts its not even funny.

 

Like the 5.9 0-60 time and the TL-S test car that had Comptech headers?

Which car is better has turned into a pissing match. I will say that Infiniti marketing has scored a MAJOR victory, though.

 

Damn, I think we hit a nerve. But he's got a good point.

 

I don't know about that. Except at these car boards I don't know anyone who's even HEARD of the G35.

 

The G35 has been out ONE month.

I didn't know what a acura tl type s was until last month.

 

Ok, another TLS owner have to say something here....

Look at how consistant G35 times are?? I have no doubt that G35 would be just as fast as TLS, if not edge out TLS a little.... and it's always meant to be this way: Cars get better, and faster PERIOD..... today's King Of The Road might be Slug Of the POS years down the road....

IMO, Nissan/Infiniti has tighter finish(exterior-wise, and on some models, interior as well)... G35 to me is not too bad... it's growing on me... but one major turn off in G35(as well as newer Nissans, especially Altima)is the plastic dashboard!!! It feels right down....LOW grade...

P.S. G35 isn't totally brand-new... it has been out in Japan for years... so, I can't really see how TLS will outlast G35...... besides, TLS tail looks good, but not downright handsome by any means as well..... now, G35 Coupe.... that's one thing I wouldn't mind have... hehe..

Andy Kuo

 

1SickLex,

So is the GS4xx not a sports sedan? I mean it doesn't come in stick.

As for the G35, who cares! I love my TLS, someone else loves their G35. Guess what, an M5 will smoke all of us and look better (inside and out)! So will a sh!tload of other cars (I chose the M5 cuz I want that bad b!tch!)

PS - I recently saw a 745i in all black and I thought it looked pretty sweet! I think in time it will grow on many of us!

 

If I could figure out how to grow one of those, I definitely plant one in my garage.

 

well...

i think our TL is pretty impressive...back in 99 no other cars was handsome or as powerful as ours in the class...

since our cars have been around for a couple yrs...shouldn't have any doubts that we are still at par with the 2003 NEWLY designed G35...

also we still able to keep up with them even we have a disadvantage in displacement...thanks to VTEC...

so we should be impressed with our cars...and hope the 04 TL will coming out strong to sweep the competitors...

it's confirmed it will be a 3.5 liter engine with 260+hp

 

Huh? Are you sure this is confirmed? I haven't come across that information. It sure would be nice if it's true.

 

Yup TL is pretty impressive especially when it was introduced.

The second phrase, I just don't understand.

It is not VTEC that is keeping TL-S with the HP (TL has VTEC too you know?) but the intake manifold with butterfly stuff. Very smart design. If you think about it, toyota's VVTI and Nissans' are superior (as it has more control vs on and off). Of course Vanos in BMW is even more superior technology.

Where did you get the confirmation for 260+HP? Anything over 260 HP with FWD really needs to be reviewed into AWD or RWD configuration (torque steer). I think TL-S is at its limits in HP with current chasis. (But then there are saabs with god awful torque steers)

 

Will they also switch to a RWD/AWD format. There is still no getting around torque steer. IMO, I think the TLS still looks nicer than the G35 sedan but the performance advantage of the G35 is also tempting. Of course this would all be negated with a RWD TLS

I'm betting the TLS will still be produced off the accord platform.

 

To me these tiny .1-.4 second differences in 0-60 & 1/4 mile times in the hands of professional drivers on closed tracks is too small to really be significant in real world (but not race track) driving. I like the G35 sedan and I believe that it will probably handle a bit better and might be slightly faster in the 1/4 mile most of the time. I might even get one when my TLS lease expires in a couple of years. The differences in most performance figures between the G35 and the TLS that I have seen thusfar are very small however. IMHO, vehicles with recorded times that are within a half second of each other are all pretty much on-par with each other so far as that specific test is concerned. The only thing that really matters is your satisfaction with your car.

 

How about Seville/Deville?? They have 300HP and about the same amount of torque.... IMO... Torque-Steer isn't too bad in TL/TLS.... and I really doubt they would switch to RWD... unless Honda planned to make Accord RWD as well.....

Andy Kuo

 

Yeah... but those seville and devilles makes TL-S like a feather weight car. Wonder if you can even feel the power really with all the extra weight? :p.
One thing that can really help TL-S if it keeps FWD would be ATTS or LSD. However, we all know honda doesn't like mixing auto tranny with either of those (Prelude being a good example) At this point, unless some one has insider info, we can only speculate.